Without the minority of people who provide the majority of funding, the majority of people won't have a place to have fun. LL is a company not a virtual government.
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Argent Stonecutter
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11-29-2005 09:06
Without the majority of people who provide all the income, the minority who provide the capital wouldn't have any return on their investment... whether it's LL or Anshe. |
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
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11-29-2005 09:18
I wasn't too sure about it before, but if it sickens Prokofy than I full heartedly support it.
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-29-2005 09:47
I think people should be referred to by their preferred identity. In my mind, calling Sebastian by the wrong name is just as bad as calling Prokofy by the wrong gender. I don't know why anybody would do that. I'm not going to argue with you any more, April, and I'm not going to argue with you, either, Aimee. You both know better. coco _____________________
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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11-29-2005 09:56
I'm not going to argue with you any more, April, and I'm not going to argue with you, either, Aimee. You both know better. Sorry to hear that Coco. Apparently respect for people's preferred identity in Second Life is an area where you and I diverge. But this is a strongly held belief for me, and I can't compromise on it. _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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11-29-2005 10:01
Sorry to hear that Coco. Apparently respect for people's preferred identity in Second Life is an area where you and I diverge. But this is a strongly held belief for me, and I can't compromise on it. You're not being cute, and you're not being clever. coco _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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11-29-2005 10:03
You're not being cute, and you're not being clever. No. Aimee isn't cute at all. She is hot hot hot!  Damn clever, though. |
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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11-29-2005 10:05
If the entire financial basis of SL is based on the land barons speculating to make a profit, then I'd say that it was in a pretty dicey situation to be honest. It should be regular income from paid monthly accounts that form the majority of what keeps SL going, rather than half a dozen people paying thousands a month out of their profits. Apart from first land, is it possible to buy anything directly from a Linden? Lewis The entire financial basis...? You'll have to find someone who holds this view to discuss this with; that would not be me. "It should be..." So, what are your ideas for increasing the number of premium memberships and to increase retention? That's a discussion with potential. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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11-29-2005 10:14
Without the majority of people who provide all the income, the minority who provide the capital wouldn't have any return on their investment... whether it's LL or Anshe. It is incorrect to assume that by addressing the dismissal of one segment of SL, I am unaware of or indifferent to the contribution of another segment. _____________________
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Sebastian Skye
Second Life Resident
Join date: 20 Nov 2004
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11-29-2005 10:29
Without the majority of people who provide all the income, the minority who provide the capital wouldn't have any return on their investment... whether it's LL or Anshe. I agree and if some more of the land was spread out among more people rather than in the hands of a few, the land market would be more enjoyable. LL would make more money in volumn and we would have a broader base of residents to interact with. The telehubs going are a good thing. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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11-29-2005 10:42
I agree and if some more of the land was spread out among more people rather than in the hands of a few, the land market would be more enjoyable. LL would make more money in volumn and we would have a broader base of residents to interact with. What does it take to do that? To get more people to buy land, that is. The percentage of tier carrying folks has steadily dropped. It can't be the price; lots of land went unsold from spring through summer even though the prices were low. Do you think the percentage of land holders will increase with the reintroduction of P2P? _____________________
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Sebastian Skye
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11-29-2005 17:45
What does it take to do that? To get more people to buy land, that is. The percentage of tier carrying folks has steadily dropped. It can't be the price; lots of land went unsold from spring through summer even though the prices were low. Do you think the percentage of land holders will increase with the reintroduction of P2P? Just think about it. If someone couldn't afford to tie up so much land with For Sale signs, the prices would be lower and more people would have bought land and larger parcels. This would enable people to do more things with their land. What is your definition of low? I never saw "low" prices. Now that this telehub land is no longer so valuable, it might actually cause all land to increase as the Land Barons holding telehub land attempt to recoup their losses. As for correcting this, it is probably too late. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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11-29-2005 18:17
Just think about it. If someone couldn't afford to tie up so much land with For Sale signs, the prices would be lower and more people would have bought land and larger parcels. This would enable people to do more things with their land. What is your definition of low? I never saw "low" prices. Now that this telehub land is no longer so valuable, it might actually cause all land to increase as the Land Barons holding telehub land attempt to recoup their losses. As for correcting this, it is probably too late. I would be using low in the relative terms within the time frame of the year to date during which time I have purchased, sold and owned land. Prime parcels which sold for $9-12 per sm were slow to go at $5-8. Pg land selling now & prior to this time at $5-6 per sm languished near $3 per sm. Snow and first lands could be had for near $2. I don't know how you missed this price drop, it was not momentary. There were threads attesting to the dropping land values and calling for LL to stop releasing new land. What would you define low price for land to be? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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11-29-2005 18:48
I agree and if some more of the land was spread out among more people rather than in the hands of a few, the land market would be more enjoyable. More variety in the land itself. I think they should make whole sims that have that kind of topography, maybe even sims going up a kilometer or so, with the top above the building limit. And have First Land in every sim, instead of ghetto sims full of First Land. Maybe 1/64 of each new sim be First Land. |
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April Firefly
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Join date: 3 Aug 2004
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11-29-2005 20:16
I would be using low in the relative terms within the time frame of the year to date during which time I have purchased, sold and owned land. Prime parcels which sold for $9-12 per sm were slow to go at $5-8. Pg land selling now & prior to this time at $5-6 per sm languished near $3 per sm. Snow and first lands could be had for near $2. I don't know how you missed this price drop, it was not momentary. There were threads attesting to the dropping land values and calling for LL to stop releasing new land. What would you define low price for land to be? I must have missed that. I just remember paying a lot for 16k of land and then when I was forced to move I had to sell at a much lower price. Sorry I don't have a specific number for you. _____________________
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Anna Bobbysocks
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08-19-2006 21:54
Well, we're all having secondthoughts about this thread..
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Jesse Malthus
OMG HAX!
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08-19-2006 21:55
Stop. It. KTHYBAI.
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Anna Bobbysocks
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08-19-2006 21:58
I think you youngin's needs some historical perspective.
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Jesse Malthus
OMG HAX!
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08-19-2006 21:59
I think you youngin's needs some historical perspective. Then atleast provide some original commentary and start a new thread FFS. _____________________
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Did Jesus ever go back and clean up those footprints he left? Beach Authority had to spend precious manpower. Japanese Jesus, where are you? Pragmatic! |
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Anna Bobbysocks
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08-19-2006 22:00
Honestly, I have nothing I could possibly add to this
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Jesse Malthus
OMG HAX!
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08-19-2006 22:02
Honestly, I have nothing I could possibly add to this Then distill and rehash. Geez. _____________________
Ruby loves me like Japanese Jesus.
Did Jesus ever go back and clean up those footprints he left? Beach Authority had to spend precious manpower. Japanese Jesus, where are you? Pragmatic! |
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Anna Bobbysocks
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08-19-2006 22:02
Oh I think it would lose something in the translation
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
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08-19-2006 22:14
Oh, I get it now Anna, you're necroposting. How usenet of you.
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
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08-19-2006 22:20
Thread Necromancy is worse then real necromancy cuz you can't force the threads to kill people for you. So it's best to let them die.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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08-19-2006 22:57
it's best to let them die. No doubt about it. Couldn't agree more. _____________________
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Osgeld Barmy
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08-19-2006 22:59
necro
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