I would like to thank Ol Fitzcarrido...

And just plain funny. What I really loved were the accounts of you trying to rectify the situation by nuking your own little creations when people reported seeing them on their land. Probably not one of your happier SL moments. I'm sure you downed quite a few beers that night. Ah memories...

OK Guys, the actual URL for the full size screen shot is
*edited*

Also note that, although the screenshot has been blurred out in places to protect the identity of the perps, the person editing the image forgot to blur the taskbar at the bottom of the screen!!!!!

You define yourself relative to others based on intent. "I'm not as bad as..." is not much of a standard to judge yourself by, especially in this case.

yikes

I'm awesome at image editing.

you left his AIM name in the image on purpose then?

You can cram that "apology" screenshot where the sun don't shine. The sphere was named "GrieferSphere RC3" hmm....following standard programming ettiquet......RC3...Release Candidate 3.

Lordfly already mentioned this a few posts up.

Chat screenies can be faked.

Who's to say that your chat partners aren't Adobe and PhotoShop, hmm?? Maybe you were talking with The GIMP and his friend PaintShop Pro....or possibly Corel....either way...

none of those programs are sentient to the best of my knowledge.

You sir, are a waste of bandwidth.

Mkay, but at best, it was a tool to be used to grief one/several people at a time.

Instead, the script fucked up and followed itself to its logical conclusion and griefed everyone at once.

Yeah, the threats of lawsuit, and so on are really dumb.

But seriously. You guys let any old tard from the SA Goons forums into your SL group, and time and again, you guys get burned.

When a toddler touches a stove, he'll get burned. Sooner or later, despite the intelilgence of said toddler, eventually he learns not to put his hand on the fucking stove anymore.

Instead you guys not only put your hands on the stove, you hump it again and again and wonder why your groin is on fire.

Learn to, I don't know, screen for morons before you let them into your precious W-hat group. Then stupid shit like this wouldn't happen every month.

He wasn't exactly that much of a newbie to controversy, either... he was also the jackass claiming "art" on a racist avatar, was he not?

Bah, why am I arguing with you guys. You'll believe what you want to believe on the SA goons forums, and we'll beleive what we want to believe.

Just don't be surprised when your friends get banned again, and again, and again.

LF

Thank you for your well reasoned response.

LF, I'm not disagreeing with you, this was/is a total disaster for us. we do screen our incoming members but we can tell if things like this are going to happed before hand.

Yes we have pushed, cageds, assholed around before and the guy that has done this has said some pretty fucking stupid things, but no this was not a targeted attack on the SL servers and his actions are not those of the entire w-hat group.

the w-hat group is just a moniker for something awful members in SL like all online communitys we have our bad apples. but this does not mean the entire group is responsable or that this was a planned attack to damage Sl.

My well reasoned response is lacking, true, however, it is not required given your prior history and the history of your associtations.

Don't set yourself up for failure. By being a group known for asshattery, you are the flame that these asshat moths flock to.

Hush.

Responsibility exists regardless of intent. It's part of being of legal age. The days of apologizing for "not meaning to" are over. Being aware of the potential effect of your actions is part of your responsibilty. Not knowing doesn't excuse you; it just makes you stupid.

It doesn't matter that you did not do it, you are still responsible. You repeatedly choose to associate with people who amuse you with their antics and their willingness to take it to the edge. You support and encourage them and provide them with their toys to play with. When they go over the edge, you go with them.

Understand this; there is a line that is crossed which takes you from being someone who acts like an asshole and who genuinely fucks up to simply being an asshole and a genuine fuckup.

So just hush.

The rest of your post, I'll give to you.

W-Hat attracts dipshits, but the dipshits would still exist without W-Hat.

The dipshit that pulled this stunt was looking for attention. He knew he'd get attention due to the outcome of his stunt. That's a planned attack. I doubt he really does lack the ability to reason out the outcome of his decisions like you're claiming, but if he really is that mind-numbingly stupid, then you go ahead and side with the mouthbreather all you want.

at the end of the day I am not OL and OL is not me.

And neither of us represents w-hat as a hole.

I just don't want our entire group getting banned for dip-shittery when someone pulls something like this.

to be honest im sticking up for w-hat more tham OL.

W-hat as a group is pretty much dead most have moved to a new group and left some of us behind OL had dual group membership this happened in their group not ours. I'm just trying to save us.

Think of the newbs!

Well, I tried having a reasonable chat with some of your "group members" in Gallii, after being invited there from your IRC channel. I lasted about 30 seconds.

The result was two orbitings, some C4 chat spam, two smoke particle spams, and being called a "griefer" by some of your children.

In a word, you guys really need to chill the fuck out. Orbiting me for no fucking reason, twice, is about as childish as one can get. Well, besides crashing the grid.

This is why I imagine no one really listens to you guys when you say "zomfg sry nvr hapen agin" over and over.

My sympathy's gone, sorry mate.

LF

You know what? The only reason I stay in w-hat is to know where something awfull people are and to communicatte with them. I'm fucking sick of trying to put out shit like this. I didn't do any of this stupid shit and I wasn't logged in at the time. Do what you like just don't perma ban me.

You guys have a forum. You obviously have IRc channels. Use them.

You're always judged by the company you keep. That's true in any human endeavor.

If you don't want to fight fires, don't fucking have your friends start them with your name on it.

LF

Dude, to a certain extent, I can sympathize.

I'm an SA forum goon, to the extent I belong to the SA forums. I read Something Awful, I think its friggin funny a lot of the time.

Somewhere along the line though, W-Hat ended up being the asshole magnet group in SL. Don't know who's fault it is and don't care, really. At this point I'd think anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would quit associating with the assholes that join W-Hat and just chill with their friends instead.

You are deluding yourself if you think your efforts to communicate with them and to come forward with your "semi official" announcements qualify as community service.

Do yourself, and your image a favour.

Quit the asshat group. Put them all on global mute. And walk the f*** away. Wash your hands of them.