Gay Themed Sim!

I would really like a gay themed sim.

No, it wouldn't be a ghetto.

Just an idea...

What would you build in a gay sim???

Ponys, rainbows, and every other gay sterotype i can think of

I'm no gay activist or anything but how does a gay themed sim differ from any other sim?
Anything that would be done in regards to the being Gay would probably be done behind closed doors anyway.
Let's not segregate and discriminate by separating. I'm sure the good intention is there but Let's all play together.
I don't even know If there is a member I've met in game that has told me they are gay, so I don't even know what the draw would be.
Just my opinion.
CrowCatcher

Oh boy.

I'm really tired of statements like this. I'm sure you "didnt mean anything" but this really goes to the root of the problem. Seems the only thing gay people do in this mindset is hide away and have "deviant" sex or conduct other unsightly lewd acts. How can you really believe this?

Gay people live lives like anyone else. They get up, shower, got to work. They buy groceries. They raise kids. They go to school and go to church. You probably spoke with, sat next to or were friends with gay people that you didnt even know were gay. Grandmothers, Uncles, sons, sisters and brothers.. doesnt matter. Gay people pay mortgages and own pets. Some even rent! gasp! and own NO pets!

A "Gay" themed sim could hold landmarks important to gay history. Areas of San Francisco, New York or other parts of the country ir world that hold importance, just like RT66 holds importance to American History. It could house an Ellen museum or pay tribute to Liberace (so long as the images arent copyrighted). There could even be an education center or support for families who find there is a gay family member they want to support but dont know how.

Open your minds. It's not that big of a deal. Most of the horrible things we have been taught were born from generations before us that feared those different.

(stepping down from soapbox)

I live 5 minutes from West Hollywood. Anybody who knows, WeHo, Knows that it is a community inspired and largely dominated by Homosexual Men and Women. But they are not alone, they are not separated. They are human beings like anyone else, living their lives. Don't take one line from a paragraph and remove the context to create a problem where there isn't one.
Crow

Also, you were the only one who used the term "Deviant".

Also, the ideas you listed above, are good, great actually. But There's no reason to separate them from the rest of the sims.
Crow

I dont see the themed sims as segregated. I see them as concentrated areas of a specific idea. Why not a gay theme? What makes it any different than Americana, Venice or even your own proposed Africa?

You yourself suggested the quote I quoted. Please feel free to clarify.

Being Gay is about sexual orientation and your personal life. It's not anybody else's business how someone lives their life, unless it directly affects them, which being gay doesn't affect anyone except the people directly involved.
I for one would love to see an abundance of gay inspired stores and themes within the game.
You are correct, It probably would not be taken as segregation, I just really worry that it could lead to that.
Nice to know that you are there though, Mis.
Crow

Too bad you didn't have the idea when the themes sims where being given. Perhaps when it happens again you should try and see if something like that is an interest with a few others of the SL community.

I guess that's what a theme really is: A matter of common interest among a group of people willing to actually put their support in that theme. Themes btw aren't cheap...when you are involved in one, it usually takes a bit of commitment...which means you aren't as free to do other things. Do you want to focus you SL experience on a gay theme? Well if so then see if you can get a group with that common interest together the next time LL has theme sims available and make a proposal...

A gay sim wouldn't look any different from any regular sim so whats the point? Rainbows aren't gay, maybe to guys, but a lot of women like em. There really isn't anything i can think of that you can do in SL that would be considered "gay"

Hikaru,

as with any culture there are values and history that is deeply ingrained yet not always known by others.

Saying rainbows is all there is is like saying rice is all there is to being asian. It's simply incorrect. I think it is a good idea and up to those who want to build it to define the contents and make it viable.

I just think this is an exercise of things to come. Its about being able to "live" in a community of people different than yourself and having it be ok. We're all just people trudging along trying to live a happy life. Today its a gay sim. What will it be tomorrow? This is an international game. We need to learn to get along regardless of who we are or where we come from.

Well said, Mis. Very direct and True. I personally look forward to the differences that SL can bring to the table.
SL...the online gaming melting pot? Sounds good to me.
Crow

Well now, I really did not need this today. I fell last night and busted my knee wide open but Crow you started sooooo let’s play.
1st we have several themed sims I think you even participate in one. Now let me get this right (because I don’t get anything straight) ummm I don’t like baseball so that means I should be segregated from Americana. Or hey, I am not Japanese so no little Tokyo For me. Maybe I should give up my land in the Native Project because I am Scottish.
Crow no one is saying that the Gay sim would only have gay players in it. The gay sim would have things that depict gay culture and history.
Now before some of you want to balk at the notion of gay history watch out we go back before Christ was born. We have a long history and a rich culture. Our sim would celebrate our heroes and our martyrs. We would also have replicas of The Castro, South Beach, and yes West Hollywood.
2nd just thought I would ask if you ever leave your sim. We have a gay club smack Dab in the middle of Perry. Also, crow the AV you voted 2nd studliest guy in SL, yeah that is me. I am a lesbian.
I resent the fact that you think being gay is just about sex and my personal life. One of the projects that would be in the Gay Sim would be a quilt memorial. That has nothing to do with sex or me personally. It has everything to do with a sad part of my people’s history.
3rd There is a gay community in SL we even have a group. My suggestion would be to go back and read the forums past. If you can’t educate yourself enough to keep up with gay history try just keeping up with SL history.

Crow,

Peace!

-Mis

I never said those things, Don't be ridiuclous.
I never said it shouldn't be there. What I said was, ALL I said was, We would need to be sure it didn't go the route of segregation. Relax. No one is out to stop anybody from enjoying their time in SL. The second someone raises a concern, even IN FAVOR OF THE SIM, being done properly, you hear, "Gays shouldn't be here." Which was never said.

And then you have the audacity to lecture someone on history as if we all don't know that homosexuality has been around a long time. Long before Christ, and long before that.
It's natural so it's been there since the beginning of man.

I don't think it's us who needs to educate themselves. I think your naive to think there there are people out there who wouldn't try to stop you or discriminate you, and All I said, is let's watch out for it. Let's be aware.
Go back and read carefully what I said before you attack me, because we are on the same side.
Crow.

Peace all the way.
Love too.
Crow

Yep let's read what YOU said this is a direct quote is it not. You did say behind close doors did you not? You did say you did not know of any gay members did you not?


I am not naïve just stubborn and fight prejudice whenever I see it. It maybe dressed up in pretty words and statments like (I have a gay friend) but it is still prejudice and I will fight it.

I can't believe I'm even dealing with this. I never said "I have a gay friend". In fact, I don't. A gay sister, yes. But don't put words into my mouth.
Second, Did you even bother reading the rest of the post, or were you just so blinded by the impulse to pick a fight that you went off what you thought I meant.
Knock it Off Thai. There's no fight here and I'm not prejudice. If you have any qualms about the character of my being, ask someone who knows Me in RL. Dragon Crossing in game is a RL friend. Matter of fact, he works in my office, under two of our bosses, who are both gay. And yes they are also friends.
You're the closed minded one here. By not listening to the reasons behind statements, just firing away when you hear them.
Just like the intention I mentioned in the first reply, you have to looks at peoples intention. Because words can be misunderstood.
Pick your fight somewhere else, where it's warranted.
It's lost on me because I don't disagree with you. Talk about the sim you would like to see, instead picking a fight. And we will all voice our opinions, and Ideally, things would get done. And we could have a sim that honors gay history.
Enough said.
Crow

And yes I did say behind closed doors, I think it's better to handle sexual acts of any orientation in private. Do you feel different? Or did you just jump to conclusions? I don't know any gay characters in game. Maybe because it's not something that has come up. But don't fault me for having not met them.
Enough said Again....

I like rainbows and I'm not gay... I have nothing against ponies either...

I think we can all get along by just sharing a sim

again I dont want a fight but you keep mentioning sex acts. Who said that just because it is a gay sim there will be sex acts

Don't worry about it Crow, Thai is infamous for looking for problems where there aren't any.

She brings her baggage to SL where we all want to get along, but she can't leave the discrimination and issues from it that she gets in RL, in RL.

So anytime anyone has any doubts about a gay issue, she assumes we are all bigots and bastards.

What she doesn't understand is that you can support gay rights without supporting the specific gay proposal.

She'll learn someday that life isn't about fighting and we can all get along.

JV

Careful there Darwin, You said "together" you must be prejudice, because you think people shouldn't be separated from one another. (Please people, let's not let the sarcasm go unnoticed, So i dont' have to end up in another long debate).
Love always,
Crow

You are often a voice of reason, Jon. Thank you.
Crow