I have had enough

Every time something like this comes along I go and look back at furcadia.

Why am I spending $70(us) per month on SL?

The answer is that furcadia does not have a system in place where I can buy a spot.

Currently the only way to keep a club open in furcadia is to keep your Internet connection running 24/7.

History has shown that any company that rejects the creative people will ultimately loose.
1. The Apple II plus was the top engineering computer at the time, but when Apple made the Macintosh they only allowed large company's to write software for it.
2. The engineering community moved to the IBM 8080 DOS PC.
3. Nuf said.

Well this sounds like a person I know , he use to say this all the time.....Wonders

My point is LLabs has allowed and did not so any banning due to ageplay.....I know I use to see this type od action on a daily bases........Al od the sudden POW they are starting to throw note cards abotu this issues to sim owners............ Don`t get me wrong And if you are reading my other postings Ageplay should be banned.

Words well spoken Brenda

I specifically meant Broccoli and nobody else.

"Popular sentiment" in most deep south states would have every african american back in chains picking cotton. Sometimes it's very difficult to separate the power of the majority from mob rule.

whoa ... this might have been correct 50 years ago

But it surely isnt now. Racism is a huge issue but you dont help things by making things up.

Thats not valid reason for simulating sex with children. Therapy should be done with trained professionals. And I seriously doubt anyone is using it as therapy

Im really hoping that the government is logging the IP's of those who are posting here in favor of ageplay. I can garantee this. if I found out my neighbor in RL was on here doing simulated sex with a simulated child, I would owe it to my children and my community to drive them out of the city

This is totally a LIE.......Using a void reason like this so the pure pleasure of one own sick thinking. These types of people are very smart and know how to get around the laws.



As for Web bugs I believe LLAbs is using then in the teen game to stop this.......But then again i am seeing alot of nework issues withthe client and my internet connection llabs is indeed doing some sort buggy of the computer.

I find this impossibly difficult to beleive. I would like to see some actual scientific data supporting this. There is no way I could take your word on it.

It is true many pedophiles were also abused as children - repeating that behavour hardly qualifies as therapy. It qualifies as damaged.

Oh, please, that is the most pathetic excuse I have ever heard. Do they also do open heart surgery on themselves as a "sort of therapy" because they were scared by a visit to the doctor when young?

Sexual ageplay isn't sel-prescribed therapy for the abused. It is a perpetuation of abberant behavior and a sign of the damage caused by the abuse. Indulging in it makes as much sense as getting drunk every night because your parents were alcoholics.

While I can't back this up with scientific data, I know people who were sexually abused as children. I know some people in SL who were sexually abused as children. I know what they have told me. However I doubt any of them are going to speak up here out of fear of being harrased by the upright citizens brigade.



It's not pedophilia. It's acting by consenting adults (got that? Adults.) playing in character. Get a goddamn grip people. If you really want to get worked up over something, get worked up over LL's policy of not requiring any sort of age verification thus allowing real life minors to be exposed to all sorts of sexual behavior in SL. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that chances are these minors arn't using kid AVs. Or is that ok as long as they give the apperance of being adult in-game?

Very true! its those kinds that say this are the ones that are scary.

Acting out those things that have damaged us (in a safe manner, which SL is) can be a form therapy.



Get a grip people, it's not pedophilia. It's acting between consenting adults in character. If you really want to get worked up over something, get worked up over LL's policy of requiring no sort of age verification whatsoever, thus allowing real life minors onto the adult grid where they will be exposed to, and probably participate in, all sorts of adult and sexual activities. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that these RL minors are not playing kid AVs in SL. Or is that ok as long as they give the apperance of being adults?

Um, "pedophilia" means feeling sexual attraction to children. "Pedophilia" isn't a crime - the crimes that pedophiles get charged with are child abuse, assult etc.

If someone is doing sexual ageplay because doing the same thing with adult avatars is less sexually exciting to them, then I'm sorry to say it, but they are indicating a degree of their sexual excitement is coming from the involvement of (possibly imaginary) children and that is pedophilia.

Again your assertion is so out there I couldnt take your word on it. Id need to see a credible study.




That doesnt make my statement untrue. It is a fact many pedophiles were abused as children. You brought the sexual age play as therapy into the discusion. You may not feel my comment is relavant - But its certainly accurate. There are studies on that.

The sexual stimulation of playing out a Child and an adult would be related to pedophilia I beleive. If the child aspect wasnt important there would be no need for one of the adults to use a child av.

I Agree that the RL children probably arent participating in this activity. In fact the RL children probably dont try to be careful of peoples civil liberties when they would call simulated sex between an adult and a child Sick and disgusting.

There should be verification of Age - true - I think its unrelated to the sexual ageplay as I stated before. Im pretty sure the sexual ageplayers are more likely to be all adults than a lot of other sex activty in SL.

For the record, I personally have no opinion on sexual ageplay one way or the other. I am neither for, nor against it. I am, however, very much for consenting adults being afforded the liberty to do whatever they wish with themselves so long as their activities do not in anyway harm or harras others. I understand that LL has not banned such from SL, only the open advertisment of it, and that is perfectly fine. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the upright citizens brigade calling the complete ban of such because they find it personally offensive.

Just the mere fact that any adult playing as a child AV seriously gives me the creeps as it is.

Not all ageplayers play five year olds. Tons of escorts do the "schoolgirl" routine, or teacher's pet. That's ageplay sex, too.

Am I the only one who's been sexually active since age 15, because reading this thread and the other locked ones sure makes me feel like I'm surrounded by some out-of-touch-with-reality players? And surely it isn't any more perverted to story-tell that experience than it is to story-tell being 18 or 20 or 25 or 50 and having sex, because, you know, to me 50-year old sex sounds hideous and deeply offensive.

The film "Lolita" zomg hide-yer-eyes is sexual ageplay, and a visual depiction, double-damned! Great film, too, and great adaptation of the critically acclaimed novel (story-telling) of the same name. We'd better march to the nearest library and yank the copies off the shelf, lest the depiction inspire someone to harm his teenage next-door neighbor!

While we're at it, let's yank Shakespeare off the shelf, because obviously his quaint depictions of child-brides is waaaaaaay out of step with the modern practice of refraining from holding hands until age 18!

Oh noes....better stop telling the Christmas story, too, because most Bible scholars believe Mary would have been about twelve when she told poor Joe that "the spirit of God came upon her." Yikes! Horrors! Child abuse!

I've been enjoying online erotic roleplay since I was 16, in Everquest. I haven't gone blind, haven't become pregnant, haven't picked up an unhappy disease, and haven't had unwelcome visits from a weirdo from across the world. It's remarkable how fortunate I have been, because clearly my case is incredibly unusual!!!! And clearly the vast majority of sexual roleplayers become the victims of predators in real life!

My solution, since roleplaying as a sexually active teen is now "no-no": I shall make my ears pointy and call myself an elf, and now all is well with the world and all the quivering masses can go back to their rapeplay poseballs and dolcet chambers in peace and tranquility and sigh with relief because the virtual world of casinos and strip clubs and endless shopping malls is safe again and the zombies can go back to sleep, safe from those TRULY dangerous ones who wanted to tell stories that connected with their own experiences....

I do know in some cases of abuse on young age at times some kind of "role play" is used. But there is nothing sexual involved when this methode is used.

Morwen.

Just to point out the U.S law that people are bringing up it states clearly that the image needs to be indistinguishable from the real thing except in cases were it has literary or truly artistic merit.... People need to stop associating the word as age play with sexual age play. Age play in SL is playing and acting like a child and can quite often be therapeutic for other reason. In real life there is a therapeutic reasoning for age play in SL there is and isnt. Some people are using it for therapeutic reasons but the fact that they arnt jsut dressing up as children but instead actually having their avatars be children is what is appalling to people. There are ways to have sexual age play without being a child could do it how you would do in real life. Resize children's clothing to fit your avatar or whatever and then act like a child.... Like you would do in real life thats a way around it....

People are going to discriminate against people now though it cant be halped really..... But you shouldnt target people simply for looking a certain way....

I have to agree with you Broccoli. I've never participated in pixel sex, go out of my way to avoid even seeing it, and could care less. It does absolutely nothing for me. I get plenty of sex in RL, and that provides some actual physical pleasure, unlike pixel sex. Now..when they manage true virtual reality sex...maybe my tune will change

The actress who plays Kitty Pryde in X-men 3... how old does she look? 15?

She was 19 when it was filmed..

sometimes rl looks different from numbers too

A friend of mine plays alot of children..and no sex..she loves the innocence of it.

Oh and 'community' laws do vary- Keira Knightley was topless on the big screen at 17.

Lets cut a bit into this pile of crap.

What sadden me is all these so called pro freedom that are, as usual pushing that we should be free to do whatever we want, as long as it isn't again their own beliefs and then it become "it's different we can't allow X...". So when it is something they despise it isn't anymore "freedom of expression" it become "LL is a private company they do WTF they want with SL".
Pathetic creatures.

It is over the top some peoples think they know what is good or what is bad, there is no fundamental good or bad, our moral values are inherited of centuries of history and religious beliefs.
In the end we can consider that what is "good" is everything that doesn't hurt any of the persons that participate to it.

In what Age play is being a crime? As long as we have behind the screens two consenting and willing persons?

I don't know really. OOOH YES I KNOW!!!
You dont like it right?
And because you don't like it you feel compelled to shove it down the throat of everyone?




My version of LL's surprising action?

I guess "someone" that has enough power to be considered simply knocked at Linden Labs door to voice his "suggestion" about what LL should do, in a very persuasive manner.

And this is bad, really bad. I come in SL not to face the same lead masks i do in RL. Hell i am not even an age player, but that doesn't prevent me to defend it. Because i will defend freedom in general, even if it's stuffs i do not agree for.

*sigh*

Nabokov employed a self-deceived narrator. In other words, the reader is encouraged, by an untrustworthy narrator, to see Humbert as the victim of Lolita's (Doris') seduction.

It's irony. Humbert was a pedophile. That's the point.

I'm less concerned about your misreading of Lolita, however, than I am about your conflating a significant and thought-provoking literary work with the discussion at hand. I don't see the connection.