Extending the "No Access" barrier over your land

All I meant is that... I think for many (maybe all?) people there is a tension between SL en RL (and no, this doesn't has to be bad always). Things as do I go dancing in SL or walking the dogs in RL.... so I go decorate my SL house or do I go dancing in RL... adn so on.

And as long these are more or less in balance there is no real problem....

But for me... (and this goes only for me).... if the tension between SL and RL would become a real issue, SL will lose big time from RL. In other words, for me RL is much more important then SL.

And for me there is no need for ban-lines or orbs, so I will not use them (for the many reasons already mentioned before).

Morwen.

Thank you.... I cannot always be bugged into checking every word in a dictionary .

Morwen.

The desire for some semblence of RL privacy seems to be important to more of us than originally imagined it seems. I can only speak for myself. I am a very private person in RL, I don't like speaking about myself. There are details, experiences, accomplishments that some of my closest friends don't know about. I am also a very stubborn person (I'm Irish -German, with a little Slovak thrown in). I stick to my ideas once I have decided it's what I believe. That being said, I never want to impose those ideas on anyone else.Like I said earlier, I am somewhat dismayed by the lack of compromise on a lot of contended issues concerning SL.If something proposed isn't feasible, just say why and I'll shut up. The worst answer when told no is "Because I said so". If something can be done but would affect people who didn't want it that's fine as well. But if a change can be made to acommodate a group without infringing on the rest of the community, what's the harm?If it enriches the experience for some users without detracting from everyone else, good.Sometimes these lines are drwan between the technical minded vs the philosophical minded residents, but not always. It is becoming more apparent that we have to take as much charge of the World as we can. Let's try to do that for the good of all residents.

As it is apparent that total privacy, meaning people can not peek in on you is far from perfect is seems that most part people are more concerned with others entering their "Homes". I may be new, but I do explore quite a bit and have seen a few "Home Security" items in the way of special intruder proof windows and I would suspect doors as well. I mean whats the use of putting "bars" over your windows if you leave your front door wide open? So why then do people not use these and protect there "home"? I guess they may not work, but then again they exist so isn't some one working on it?

I would beg to differ. Since any prim up to 768 (the current build max) over my property counts against my parcel prim count, I would say I own it all the way up to 768. That means I can have a skybox anywhere I please in the intervening space and so forth, especially on the mainland. When prims over a certain height don't count against the prim limits, I'd allow that no one owns the sky, but until then, my airspace is my airspace.

For my own purposes, I choose to use a security system on my skybox because my central sim hosts a fairly popular sandbox and those who frequent it, especially newer players, like to explore. They find the front door to the house on the ground locked and go in through the unlocked second floor door so they can poke around, so you just know they'd poke around the skybox given a chance. Gotta fix that door.

I use a 15 second warning (as per my covenant) and it teleports home because if you do a hard push that sends them several sims, they'll go offworld and crash, so I find tp home to be the kinder, gentler approach to ignoring the warnings.

Generally speaking, I lock the doors down on the ground simply because I tend to stand there looking bored while I'm buried in work related IMs and it makes it less likely to be disturbed by the wandering curious and secure the skybox because that's where I go for deep discussions where I don't want interruptions.

As for ban lines, they are not permitted on my estate sims. In many instances, there are small bits of resident land under the sidewalks and paths. Ban lines would disrupt the right of way of residents and visitors alike throughout the sims in addition to being unsightly. The covenant permits security systems, as long as people have enough warning to move along (15secs or longer). As my mainland sim is a mall, I don't have reason for ban lines there, either.

Char

i agree Benda, however the problem with that is people will find a problem with that. LL has dropped the banlines to 100 meters, which leaves about what 700+ airpsace for flying?
i dont see a problem. as i stated in my post when is enough space enough? i offered one solution, which was quickly shot down, pay a toll to the landowner for the right to fly through. i know not fair but until one group stops pressing thier views and rights on another.....(shrugs)

I do. Any prims over that parcel up to 768m count agaisnt my limit.

As for ban lines being invisible.. I support this option more - the personal option to make ban lines more or less visible (client side), while still in effect. In a perfect world, there would be two options - one setting for travellign and one for a sim in which you have home set.

AND to show them on minimap

Locked properties showing up on the map perhaps with their own color. A good navigation tool for flyers hoping to avoid such obstructions. Have a button in there, " SHOW CLOSED PARCELS" or something. Technically I should be writing this in the NO FLY zone thread, but since you brought it to mind.

I started building in the sky after the first time a person came thru my wall sitting on a plywood box... This is the reason most of us react badly to anyone 'just walking in'

Prior to that I used the locked doors and low friendly settings with a security orb. its always the few that screw it up for everyone one else... those that 'think' they have a 'right' to go anywhere they wish. Here is a tip for those type. You don't.

So.. I build in a private sim high in the sky well above the unassisted flight ceiling. Security set to smack the daylights out of people that either just don't get it or 'think' they are out 'meeting people' at 725 meters above ground.

What I do up there is... none of anyones business but my own