Gorean Question

I'll start with I know with these forums i'm going to get some flame answers, many off topic, and all that other junk but oh well, if anyone actually answers the question it'll be worth it.


My girl and I are in search of A gorean sim. However everything we've found so far has been warped and corrupted from the way things were in the books. We are curious if there is any true gorean sims out there, where it is not just an excuse to PvP panthers vs outlaws, where not every girl you meet is restricted slave. Where the freewomen act like freewomen. Where the RP is 24/7, so you won't find panthers standing around talking with the men like best friends, idle sparring with combat units going off every 5 seconds then reset spamming the shout channel... pretty much i'm searching for a true gorean RP sim. If anyone knows of one, or if my search is fruitless because it does not exist, i would like to know...

Well, I know a few Goreans that actually stick to the books. But where their sim is, I don't know. I'll ask tonight and give you an IM.

Mandy C

I forget it's name, but you might be able to find it in Search... there's a Gorean Visitors Center or some such. It's an OOC location but has a huge amount of information about all the various Gorean sims around. That might help. I remember seeing a few that at least claimed to be strict roleplay.

I'm rather stuck myself in that the anything-goes sims don't appeal to me at all, and the strict roleplay sims that do appeal are... well, strict. *g* And so I wouldn't feel right visiting them as a freewoman without a homestone or family. It just wouldn't be honoring or participating in the roleplay.

I'm all for whipping and facestripping all those merchants who think they can slap a half-veil on a shoulderless, cleavage-showing gown and advertise it as a freewoman's dress.

I was a Gorean slave for 6 months and in that time they opened SL to free accounts the quality of RP went from okay to complete crap.

Last sim I saw that had a decent RP close to the books was Nine Wells but even that was getting bad from just these visitors with all kinds of mis interpreted ideas.

Pretty hard to accept I'm supposed to be beaten for serving drinks the wrong way when it's the noob master wanna be who's been Gor 3 days doesn't know one drink from another and your own master says even if you do it right they have the right to abuse you.

that was it.

I'm not playing some prop in some tennage PvP pirate movie.

well to me from the begining of gorean stuffs in SL it only moved downhill in the 3 years i spent here.

Good, with the Goreans in disarray, we can finally take over SL! Furries, grab your arms and follow me to victory!

We shall call this place "Fluffyville"

I'm interested by strict Gorean RP, please contact me in game. (absent until 21 feb)
(together, we got a chance to repel the attack of the furries)

I do have to say, reading about Goreans fighting off Furries was something I never EVER expected to read.

*shakes head*

Thank you god for inventing the internets.

Just wait, I'm sure the Trekkies will get involved sooner or later

It was a tentative of joke, sorry that it was not clear. Imagine the fight between Furries and Goreans ! Please excuse this newbee failure to use the right intonation.

/me secedes from Fluffyville and declares herself the sovereign nation of Kinkykia.
(I wasn't gonna be Winter Wonderland... so =P)

the weird thing is of course I have heard of furries griefing the goreans.

Potentially retaliation in part for the goreans not even allowing visitotrs wear their furry avs to quiety take a look at the sim builds.

Then - like many furries point out in the forums - It could simply be regular greifers wearing furry avs to shift blame.

There are a few sims worth observing, but I don't hold much hope for those even with the clearest vision and best intents, and even less in those who call themselves 'No Disney'.

The state of SL Gor is a sad apostacy, full of kids with no RL experience who could at least simply commit to the role if only they'd actually read the books. So you have Masters and slaves who hijack convenient bits of rhetoric as reasons not to act like masters or slaves, and you have FPS-hack-n-slackers turning it into a perpetual game of push-button tag while whispering 'do you like me' IM's to each other. And all of them are blaming each other why everything sucks.

IMO, the only way SL Gor could be redeemed would be for it to completely die, so all those who never belonged there can drift off to something else that promises an ego-crutch or a twitch-action combat or another dating chat dressed up in funny clothes. And then SL Gor could be reborn again with one good city-state to set the example.

Furries will defeat those horrid Goreans. We're nicer and breed faster. So, ner.

Yeah, wot Cakes said.

<nuzzles t3h bunneh grrl>

*wonders how a coat of furry-fur will look*

(j/k)

Morwen.

If more people read the books , less would get involved. But more would roleplay the way you and the OP want - so that would probably be a win/win for your community.

Then again some wouldnt get involved becuase theyd have to read - lol .. people are so lazy.

I am not Gorean, but I have read all the books. I liked to read them.

Morwen.

from the people Ive spoken with that ALL part is ALL more than a lot of SL goreans read.

as in they read 0 of the books.

Just maybe it's not for everyone. If you'd like a fantasy culture to co-opt, try one that doesn't have any reflection of reality, there's surely one friendlier to the common denominator, like Tolkien's.

Not for everyone, that is correct. But Gorean lifestyle has most certainly the interesent of many people... not only in SL.

I know more Gor based sims as Tolkien based sims when we talk about SL again.

Edit: I don't know if a Tolkien based sim would so be friendly.... lot of races there that don't like each other. Now, don't get me wrong... I love Tolkien, did already as young girl.

Morwen.

ohh Im absolutely certain its not for everyone.

I was commenting on the fact its not even really for many of the current SL participants. Many whom would disagree strongly with a lot of the things in the books.

While it might actually inspire some who read them to be more like what the OP and you have stated. Thus a smaller - but "richer" community.

I also think that reading those books require a time investment, one many of the SL participants would never be willing to make.

Even without any reflection of reality , Tolkien is easier becuase it doesnt deal with the same sorts of things as Gor does, such as supposed natural gender roles and sex slave trade.

The Real Life goreans would be a seperate thing entire from all my comments on this SL gor thread - as Id presume they have read the Gor books (that they can get) and (for whatever reason) agree with them.

I agree with a lot you said on this subject... but not with this .

Playing a race with you are not in reality, which even doesn't exist in reality, can be very hard... and playing and choatic evil person may be even harder, not to mention a lawful evil character (Orcs, Trolls, Drow/Dark Elves come to mind).

Morwen.

I wasnt refering to ease of role play -

I was referring to ease of the ability to tolerate the aspects of the works in question.

Tolkien is much less controversal than Gor. And while gor in the books is different than its reputation - it still has a lot of apects to it that many people find offensive.

I'll be honest, coming from lifestyle BDSM, I used to bash John Norman and had nothing but contempt for Gor, based on the behavior of online Goreans. I actually undertook reading the books in order to have examples of why it's so contemptible. And in the beginning, the hackish writing and clumsy dialog did make it easy to continue hating Gor.

But as the series progressed, the action got better, there was more spark and charm in the dialog, and the logical and practical grounds for this culture became more sophisticated and made more sense even to an outsider like Tarl. It didn't claim to be a perfect world, and Norman will still critique it himself, from Tarl's outside view long after he's gone native, but it's a world that suits few very well for very good reasons.

I maintain that if many more people read and considered the books, more people would be eager to take part in it, and Gor would be a larger and richer niche.