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There is a lot more Mature land than PG land, that's why there's more for sale. Actually PG land tends to sell for less money than Mature land.

I have houses and stores in two sims - one is Mature and one is PG. The Mature sim has a couple of sex dungeons and is very laggy. The PG sim is very peaceful and pleasant. Interestingly, the Mature sim is much newer than the PG sim so I don't think it's the server speed that causes it to be that way.

Just to add my two cents - a lot of people want mature land so they can speak freely (including swearing) and sunbathe nude and have sex privately in their houses without being reported by others in a PG sim who might be offended. It does not mean that everyone who has land in a mature sim wants to be around pornographic businesses and images all the time.

Broccolli.. what do you consider "mature" in a world that commands residents to be over 18 from the outset?

Not a prostitute. Please. A worker in the sex industry, yes, but not a prostitute.

Interesting thought. Of course, it could also be a harbinger of:

1) Plans to make an IPO.
2) Making SL more attractive to private investors
3) Plans to sell LL to Disney or other media giant.

Honestly though? I think someone finally nudged the Legal Lindens out of their collective slumber and pointed out that SL is NOT a common carrier and can be held liable if they don't start taking steps like these.

Kam

For the record.. I am a madam.. not a prostitute... and i dont consider EITHER to be something a person should be ashamed of. Just because you bought into the society rules doesnt mean the rest of us have to drink the kool-aid.

I think any cursory inspection of the most popular places, and an tour of the random green dots on the grid will show that vastly more people want sexual activity and mature themed activites available in SL than who are opposed to them.

And why not, Sex is a core human activity, and in SL most of the RL constraints and prejudices go away. Many people who engage in sexual activity online also engage in other activity. So wishing it was all in some giant red light district and would just go away is very pollyannaish. Yes SL as a land has a certain hedonistic approach, but that is because people cannot do these sort of things in RL. SL is very liberating and gives us a good glimps into what peoppe would choose to be if restraints were discarded.

Its not like people are forced to teleport into sex clubs. Sex is popular because residents want it to be., not because some sex club owner tells them they should be.

Any resident has tremendous control over thier SL expereince. There are hundreds of PG sims where you can park your self and never, inall your days of SL see any thing remotely sexual.

Ultimately this becomes a question of should LL be the ones responsible for regulating our resident experience, or are the residents them selves capable of determining if an area is PG or mature and seeking it out? In this particular case I think the rules on group names have been in place since the beginning, and well that is a risk taken by the original poster in selecting a group name.

It seems like we have a vocal group of people who choose to teleport into a sex club and the come online and rail about the evils of SL. If you want a sex free zone, buy an Island and make the rules. Many many places that cater to the sex industry have done exactly that. Why should SL protect your environment and not mine?

Just because someone is over 18 in real life does not mean they turn into a nymphomaniac or prostitute (or, sex worker, as you point out to try and make it somehow sound acceptable).

In real life, you cannot walk down the street naked. There are many other things that you cannot do in PUBLIC, but can in the privacy of your own home.

In Second Life, profiles, group names and land descriptions are considered PUBLIC and, therefore, must abide by the "PG" rules.

Broccoli

I submit that Sl protected your rights when they created a mature check box in search.

Yeah but wed don't want SL to limit us to things we can do RL. Whats the point?

I wish it were that simple. Try a search with the mature box not checked and see just how much sex/porn you see. I sure see a lot! Even porn pictures! All I wanted to do was find furniture today, and I had to wade through tons of XXX stuff.

You have rights, but what about ours? Please understand those rules are here to help us PG people and give us some protection and rights. As of right now, its not working that great.

Its much easier to find XXX then it is NOT to find it.

Everything should have a proper place. That is respectful to everyone and how they want their SL experience to be.
Thanks for listening.

Some of the things I've seen going on are very good advertisments as to why there should be rules that govern behavior.

I still fail to see why people speaking out against mature activities are 'wrong' and 'intolerant', yet those in support speaking out against those who prefer 'pg' activities aren't.

Broccoli

Who said anything about limiting you to only things you can do in real life? There are thousands of things that anyone can do in SL without going anywhere near 'adult activities'.

As I said, if you want sex, go play Sociolotron instead.

Broccoli

I agree.... PG areas SHOULD be PG... and PG searches SHOULD be PG.... but I say clamp down then on the people who break THAT rule.. not on those of use who took the time to make sure to check the "mature" box when offering product for sale.

Because the people who are speaking out against mature activites wish to limit what I can do. Conversly in suggesting that I should be free to do what I want, I am inherently saying that you should do what you want. You wishn to deny my choice, and that is wrong. I do not seek to deny your choice.

You see I have to go to mature areas to find the things I want out of SL, so I don;t see why you should not be foreced to go to PG areas to find the things you want out of SL.

Why should I leave. Why don't you go find your own virtual world. Vote with your check book, If you don't like SL, Leave.

That's either a bug or a lot of TOS violations. I have no problem with LL warning (at least warning to start) people that they're serious about having mature content tagged as such.

That we do agree on.

But there should still be more 'PG' land made available for those who would like to move to a PG region, having settled in mature land simply because there was nothing else suitable available at the time.

Broccoli

There isn't a 'mature' box to check for profiles and groups is there? Therefore, all those searches are PG

I volunteer for a third party community site/forum, as a news reporter.

What do you in Second Life that contributes to the good of others? Naturally, I can't get in SL right now to check your profile.

Broccoli

Have you ever actually looked in the classifieds? Some of the language there is very graphic. Are classifieds considered public?

Can someone point me to the portion of the ToS that says everything "public" needs to be PG?

Yeah, that

From what I've seen in just a month, gambling and sex are huge businesses for Second Life.

So now that the exploitation of sex and gambling has given Second Life a financial base, Second Life is going to sweep away the people who made them like dirt under the rug, to clean things up to encourage the wealthly elite to move in.

Linden Labs value each resident according to the amount of money that resident can make for them. That financial value changes over time when bigger opportunities come along.

Welcome to capitalism, everyone.

Absolutley nothing. If I wanted to contribute to the good of others, I would join the peace corps.

Community standards, Big Six number 5: Indecency
Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines.

Broccoli