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Vorren Voltaire
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06-29-2009 18:13
Only to be followed by the blog post "Just Kidding! We arent changing adult content!"
and we find out M Linden just loves messing with people.
Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 18:13
From: Sindy Tsure
Nope. No word yet.


Without meaning to be funny... are you sure you lodged the right ticket type? Since I'm still hanging around terri would you like me to find a linden and growl for you? ATM it would give me a lot of pleasure :)
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samatha Congrejo
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Not First Come First Served
06-29-2009 18:15
It appears this promised first come, first served is all BULL.

I suspect that all linden alts are getting the land first, then their friends.

Since we are never allowed to know who the linden alts are easy to do.

This clearly is not going in order of ticket filing as we can all see. I sense a complexed lie coming soon to explain away why certain people are getting land first no matter what time they filed.

This whole process has clearly shown the Lindens did not hold to their word, AGAIN!!!
Gummo Zaks
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06-29-2009 18:15
From: Couldbe Yue
Without meaning to be funny... are you sure you lodged the right ticket type? Since I'm still hanging around terri would you like me to find a linden and growl for you? ATM it would give me a lot of pleasure :)

Hey that plot you're on that was just transfered...do you known when their ticket filed?
Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 18:18
From: Gummo Zaks
Hey that plot you're on that was just transfered...do you known when their ticket filed?


lol I don't, but isn't that the same av that was claiming that they'd been knocked back earlier on over at xsl?
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Gummo Zaks
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06-29-2009 18:20
From: Couldbe Yue
lol I don't, but isn't that the same av that was claiming that they'd been knocked back earlier on over at xsl?

yeppers
Valerius Constantine
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06-29-2009 18:21
From: Ciaran Laval
Very good point.


It might be a good idea to make sure that the *official* definition of "adult" and the *practical* definition (the one that LL is actually *using* as opposed to publicizing) are the same.

If you'll notice- the practical definition of "adult" ATM seems to be "Commercial Sex and Sex-based businesses that advertise with filtered search terms"

If *that* is what Zindra winds up being mostly populated with, I personally don't see how Child AV's will be able to go there without violating the CS and being "in proximity to" sexual content and activity. I'd only ask that those who use Child AV's be *very, very careful*, and think about the rest of us when deciding where to go, and what do do when they get there.

We're now in a legal environment where a *cartoon* of a child *seemingly* involved (to whatever degree) in a sexual situation can get someone jailed in the UK, and perhaps other places as well. Having an SL snapshot that has both a child and some form of sexual activity in it (whether they are connected in any way) can certainly get you in severe trouble in the US, should someone report you for it. Especially if you have children IRL.

We know that the CHild AV's are driven by adults. The rest of the non-SL world *doesn't know that, and probably wouldn't care if they did. it would still look like Pedo heaven to them, and they would react accordingly.

Just my two cents

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Sindy Tsure
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06-29-2009 18:29
From: Couldbe Yue
Without meaning to be funny... are you sure you lodged the right ticket type? Since I'm still hanging around terri would you like me to find a linden and growl for you? ATM it would give me a lot of pleasure :)

I did indeed file it under "I have questions about Adult Content Policies and/or Zindra / Relocation and Migration" by mistake but it was clearly a land swap request. It went to work in progress quickly. Within 15 minutes..

If they put my request to the back of the line because of that then, well, so be it - just another nail in the coffin on my montly concierge check.

They going to do what they want here. I'm tired of shouting when I think they're going the wrong direction.

/me still says that no news only means that there is no news. Unless your ticket gets answered or all the land you request gets set to somebody else, it's still too early to get upset.
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Gummo Zaks
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06-29-2009 18:33
[18:31] minoko Aeon: sorry to bother you but would you mind if I asked when you submitted your land swap ticket?
[18:31] *: 10:00AM
[18:32] *: Amber Linden contacted me just after 3:00PM

edit: 5 hours !? bejesus!
Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 18:35
From: Sindy Tsure
I did indeed file it under "I have questions about Adult Content Policies and/or Zindra / Relocation and Migration" by mistake but it was clearly a land swap request. It went to work in progress quickly. Within 15 minutes..

If they put my request to the back of the line because of that then, well, so be it - just another nail in the coffin on my montly concierge check.

They going to do what they want here. I'm tired of shouting when I think they're going the wrong direction.

/me still says that no news only means that there is no news. Unless your ticket gets answered or all the land you request gets set to somebody else, it's still too early to get upset.



Sindy, check your IMs. if you can't I'll send you a memo thing through here
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Morgaine Alter
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06-29-2009 18:42
From: Brenda Connolly
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yes
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06-29-2009 18:45
From: Couldbe Yue
Sindy, check your IMs. if you can't I'll send you a memo thing through here

/me smiles.
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06-29-2009 18:47
From: Sindy Tsure
/me smiles.



/me hands you a glass as we settle down on the couch for the long wait.
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Sindy Tsure
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06-29-2009 18:53
/me stops smiling. My top 3 choices are gone.

So much for getting in at 10:01. A "wrong ticket type - please RTFM" would have been nice, LL.
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Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 19:00
From: Sindy Tsure
/me stops smiling. My top 3 choices are gone.

So much for getting in at 10:01. A "wrong ticket type - please RTFM" would have been nice, LL.




/me whispers to Brenda to just bring the case.
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Valerius Constantine
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06-29-2009 19:01
From: Ciaran Laval
Kirk's concern is regarding real children and predators, his complaint was that someone could signup to second life and claim to be 18 with no attempts at checks, to get to Zindra you need to be account verified, Kirk will have less to complain about now.


Do you really think that a logical argument like that will actually happen in a mind like Kirk's? Because I don't.

I think that LL will deal with the age verification issue, and then kirk will go after the "virtual child porn"- because if there is one phrase that sets off the media more than "internet predator" it is "child porn".

Anything that *anyone* calls child porn *must* be bad, and something *must be done*! RIGHT NOW!!!!

Here in the US many people treat bouts of "occasional irregularity" by becoming enraged about something that isn't really worth the time and trouble they spend on it. These people are idiots, but unfortunately they are usually able to convince someone whose job depends upon ratings or ad revenues that enough people care to make it worth their while to publish/broadcast on a slow news day.

And many of our government and law enforcement officials learn about the world through television and what we once called newspapers.

The situation isn't going away- the whole reason for Zindra is so that LL can say "see? we took all the naughty stuff and tossed it in that corner over there, and we put a lock on it so that the kids can't get in." Do you think that anyone IRL is going to distinguish between an actual child, and an adult driving a child AV? Or are they going to think that the adult driving the Child AV is an even bigger perv than the folks who were shipped out to Zindra?

Remember which judgement takes the least amount of *actual thinking* before you answer :)

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Gummo Zaks
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06-29-2009 19:08
what doesn't make sense is if there where 300 req in the first thirty minutes and they have 10 peolple working on it as they say and let's say each takes ten minutes to stop by current land go ok and go to first second and third choice to set one for sale then the first 300 reqs shoulda been done within 5 hours
Ceka Cianci
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06-29-2009 19:09
kirks just pumping for votes again..he knows in illinois you scare the parents and you are a shoe in
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06-29-2009 19:09
From: Valerius Constantine
the whole reason for Zindra is so that LL can say "see? we took all the naughty stuff and tossed it in that corner over there, and we put a lock on it so that the kids can't get in."
But they didn't. If you keep kid toons out of Zindra, then they'll suddenly "discover" there's porn in Mature areas. It doesn't *matter* what you do, if all you're trying to do is keep the immoral minority from freaking out. They'll do it anyway. All you can do is screw things up for people much like you by throwing them to the wolves... and the wolves will pull you down anyway.
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Ceka Cianci
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06-29-2009 19:10
kirk is not after child avatars ..he is after the adult sexual content..
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06-29-2009 19:10
From: samatha Congrejo
I suspect that all linden alts are getting the land first, then their friends.

Since we are never allowed to know who the linden alts are easy to do.

It's easy. They're the ones who have already gotten land, and have no adult content in their profile picks.
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Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 19:15
From: Milla Janick
It's easy. They're the ones who have already gotten land, and have no adult content in their profile picks.


that's a very cynical approach but sadly you could be right. Certainly there's no reason for this to have taken so long nor to be so out of whack.
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Gummo Zaks
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06-29-2009 19:16
hey at least none are for sale yet
Couldbe Yue
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06-29-2009 19:18
From: Gummo Zaks
hey at least none are for sale yet


pity, I'd like to see the kinds of prices.
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06-29-2009 19:18
From: Couldbe Yue
pity, I'd like to see the kinds of prices.

Not before I pick up another bottle or two.
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