Voice

Ok, once and for all people...jeepers.
3) Knowing that all citizens have the capability to use voice is comforting. As of now, you have to ask whether they use voice, then open (or download) the program, set it up, and blah blah blah...it's so much easier to know we all have the capability, and either see the white dot above someones head, or simply say, "Hello! Can you hear me?"

How does voice effect us?
Is it voice users to voice users only, and typing to typing only?

Can typing only users understand the voice users?

Or do we end up being in 2 groups?

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I read ALL posts, and I never skim. That is a fact. That doesn't change human error, or my firm opinion. Don't ASSUME and ACCUSE...you only make an ass out of yourself. How dare you judge me as you act the fool as you are? You sir, are the one that needs to re-work your forum style (starting with all the yelling)

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lol. You guys crack me up. You are more stubborn than a 99 year old jaded donkey.

Ok, once and for all people...jeepers.


THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE IS NOT A VALID OPTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

How I got there:

1) Third party software soaks up additional RAM (more than internal VOIP). Some may not think this an issue, but when you're running an older rig like I am, I need all the RAM I can get.

2) Third party software has to be downloaded, installed, and set up. This is a hassle to some people, and to others it's down-right confusing. Yes, I understand the majority of people installed SL, and run it...but some people (like my Mother) had trouble getting off Orientation Island...Skype, Vent, or Teamspeak would only confuse them more. And what if someone you know has Skype, but you use Ventrilo? For this to work, we would all need every one of the VOIP applications...that would be straight-up silly. We need an internal setup, with plug and play essentials. The easier to setup, the more people involved.

3) Knowing that all citizens have the capability to use voice is comforting. As of now, you have to ask whether they use voice, then open (or download) the program, set it up, and blah blah blah...it's so much easier to know we all have the capability, and either see the white dot above someones head, or simply say, "Hello! Can you hear me?"

Those are just three examples of why third party software should not be relied on. Voice is coming to SL regardless of whether you like it or not...why for the love of Linden would you want to run background apps for voice? Insanity if you ask me.

I agree it should be part of the software, it's sensible. I also think a voice changer should be embedded as well, using the same logic. (Not that I would use it anyway).

Bah...you guys...

I won't get through to you, clearly. None of my points (no matter how grounded, or valid) seem to jive with anyone. The forums are frequented by mainly those that love to bitch about issues...not embrace them--don't hate on me for making this clear.

I love SL, and I love the majority of those I meet and work with on the grid. But boy...I'll tell ya...you guys on the forums love to complain, and never really embrace.

Don't accuse me of loving voice because I'm a "techie"..that's just dumb. I'm an artist.

*shrugs*

I should be used to the fact that you neither read anyone elses's posts but your own, nor ever admit that non-voicer have concerns other than those to which yopu attribute them, but it is nevertheles getting very annoying.

ITS NOT SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T WANT VOICE TO BE INTRODUCED - VOICE AWAY FOR ALL I CARE - BUT WE DON'T WANT THIS CRAP VIEWER! AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISABLE IT COMPLETELY!

DID YOU HEAR THAT?

First thing I'd like people to be well aware of: the forum community does not in any way reflect the grid's community. They attitudes are vastly different, the vibe and feel is different...it's not a good reflection of the actual SL experience.

Not to troll you, but I seem to always notice a train of thought anong Technophiles, being A. Shock when people don't embrace what they are espousing, and B. An almost insulted stand, that anyone would dare not be as cutting edge as they are. I see it in RL as well. I don't want to hinder advances. But personally, I don't want them forced on me. I will change as my needs dictate, not as someone else decides. If people want to be luddites, let them. It's no harm to you. You can bow to the silicon gods all you wish. The machines will rule the world eventually, don't worry.

There's all types of free ones out there. If you're just looking to make your voice sound different so no one can recognize you IRL (which is a valid concern) then they'd work for you.

Now if you're trying to be another sex convincingly then they don't work so well!

I'm debating getting MorphVox Pro for the other features...I wanna be a funky dog robot!

Finally, I noticed that the comments to the blog entry announcing voice on the main viewer were almost uniformly negative.

I don't see the huge groundswell of grateful voicers that you seem to be implying.

None of my points (no matter how grounded, or valid) seem to jive with anyone. The forums are frequented by mainly those that love to bitch about issues...not embrace them--

Fine, but just as a third party app is not good enough for voice according to some, I say a 3rd party voice changer is just as impractical. Make it even.

I am starting to wonder if Michael is a linden alt, or employed by the company doing voice for them. We say 'we hate the new interface' He says 'voice is critical!' We say 'we hate the interface', he calls us 'voice naysayers'. We say 'we hate the interface' He says 3rd party software is an unworkable solution and text is still there'

He either A) cannot read, B) Cannot comprehend what he reads, C) has a stake somehow in voice on SL.

Michael, Let me make this perfectly clear....I do not care if folks use voice, use it to your heart's content, people. Yes, as you say, text is still there...however, you completely gloss over the fact that, due to the new interface, they have utterly crippled its usability for no apparent reason! THIS is what I and others are complaining about.

Bah...you guys...

I won't get through to you, clearly. None of my points (no matter how grounded, or valid) seem to jive with anyone. The forums are frequented by mainly those that love to bitch about issues...not embrace them--don't hate on me for making this clear.

I love SL, and I love the majority of those I meet and work with on the grid. But boy...I'll tell ya...you guys on the forums love to complain, and never really embrace.

Don't accuse me of loving voice because I'm a "techie"..that's just dumb. I'm an artist.

*shrugs*

Why are people so worried about being judged or segregated because of their voice choice?

I think something is drastically wrong if you fear voice this badly.

By you saying, "it has utterly cripple its usability for no apparent reason." Isn't that just as much opinion as my opinions?

No, you're not going to 'get through to me' that the steaming pile of s**t they shoveled onto us last night in the form of the new communicator panel is in any way to my benefit. It has hampered my ABILITY to communicate in text (perhaps the reason it exists? To force text folks to voice and force 'reluctant' sim admins to pay for voice?).

Add voice - stupid idea, but I can opt-out. Other than communit split, doesn't affect me.
New communicator -- massive downgrade to my ability to effectively communicate, not acceptable.

ROFL. No, Michael this is a fact. The interface is useless for anyone not using voice. I notice you didn't say you were a listener. Quite telling that.

By you saying, "it has utterly cripple its usability for no apparent reason." Isn't that just as much opinion as my opinions?

The community on the forum does not reflect the community on the grid...my opinion of course.

I am not a hater. I am a believer. I am a thinker. I am an artist--if you guys want to twist everything I say as negative and adversary...well, that's your problem, not mine. I am here to tell you what I believe, and you can react how you see fit.

I'm not a troll, nor am I a Linden in disguise.

Where is the empathy Michael? I don't care one way or the other about voice, but it seems like the pro-voicers are often quick to dismiss the concerns of the pro-text folks and come off as condescending.

I believe your statement above is a perfect example of why the pro-text folks believe that voice will fragment community.

Give it time. Perhaps all of your voices will be heard, and SL will become a fluid, efficient environment for you.

But remember what I said earlier: you can't please every body all the time.

You answered your own questionon't want to use voice = something is wrong with you = judging