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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
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06-17-2008 09:00
From: Ghosty Kips
Now, see, I go all different. I like women who speak their minds and kick ass on their own terms. The mousey types are cute and all ... but it gets tired fast. The ones who need a partner more than a leader are more my style. :)

You may be confusing mousy with willing - but perhaps I am not explaining myself correctly.
Anyone who knows me will tell you I am far from mousy- I am stubborn and opinionated and arrogant at times- causes me no end of grief I assure you. However, my rl husband is usually very firmly in control- for example right now- he is angry with me over certain things- believe me, I am feeling that ire. I am just stubbornly resisting.
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
06-17-2008 09:22
From: Ann Launay
Not what I meant...I'm perfectly capable of speaking my mind and kicking ass. I don't want all of my choices made for me and I do expect to get my way at times, but sometimes there are decisions which need to be made in a relationship and, if no compromise can be reached, someone has to take charge or risk losing what they've built. Even in those situations, I would expect to be heard and have my opinions considered carefully, but the decision would ultimately be his. Of course, if all he made were self-serving choices, I don't believe I'd hang around long...I'd need to know that he was doing what he thought was best for US.


Yeah, I worded that badly. Didn't mean to imply you were mousey ...

Um, compromise is more what I seek. Compromise and forgiveness. I can almost always find a way to one, if not both. If there's no forgiveness forthcoming, and no compromise, then I'll dictate what I need for my own life and happiness - and quickly move on if need be. I'd rather lose what's been built than remain in a situation with a lack of either, and I'd expect my mate to do the same.

Did that come out right this time? LOL
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Ann Launay
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06-17-2008 09:39
From: Ghosty Kips
Yeah, I worded that badly. Didn't mean to imply you were mousey ...

It makes me feel safe to be with a man who's willing and able to take that role. I still consider it a partnership, albeit a bit of an old-fashioned one...he'd still need me as much as I'd need him. I mean, who's he going to lead if there's no one who will follow? *shrug*

Btw, I have it on good authority that I'm more of a brat than a mouse. ;)
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
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06-17-2008 09:41
From: Ann Launay
Btw, I have it on good authority that I'm more of a brat than a mouse. ;)


Ahh, well, brat is a completly different matter. :p
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Kyllie Wylie
J-Rocker
Join date: 7 Mar 2008
Posts: 489
06-17-2008 09:53
Great questions and answers!... i'm amazed that this hasn't dropped into a flame war and speaks volumes about the level of maturity of the people here in SL.

I'm not a lifestyler..more of a hobbiest in RL, but I do have some friends that are and I can tell you they are the most loving couples I know. I've always thought that the level of comunication needed to maintain an effective bdsm relationship helps in all aspects of married life. people in these relationships seem to not be afraid to discuss things openly...that is as long as one hasnt got a ball gag on of course!
Amaranthim Talon
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06-17-2008 10:00
You know... there has been a serious lack of flaming a trolling lately-how refreshing :)
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Marcel Flatley
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06-17-2008 11:35
From: Kyllie Wylie
Great questions and answers!... i'm amazed that this hasn't dropped into a flame war and speaks volumes about the level of maturity of the people here in SL.

I'm not a lifestyler..more of a hobbiest in RL, but I do have some friends that are and I can tell you they are the most loving couples I know. I've always thought that the level of comunication needed to maintain an effective bdsm relationship helps in all aspects of married life. people in these relationships seem to not be afraid to discuss things openly...that is as long as one hasnt got a ball gag on of course!

To be honest I am as well pleasantly surprised by the fact this thread runs so well, even while different opinions are spoken.

About the bdsm or D/s relationships: Because of their nature they tend to get a bit deeper then regulat relations, which indeed makes the level of communication important. But even more important, the level of attention payed towards eachother.
As for me, I am a person who tends to give my gf not enough attention, due to the fact I have so many interests. Knowing that our relationship is based on the attention toward eachother, it helps me very much to keep things in balance. Probably I would not have notices this when not in a D/s, before it would have been too late.

Every relationship comes down to paying enough attention to eachother. The rest is gravy ;)
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Rebeccah Baysklef
Meow, Damnit
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 114
06-17-2008 11:44
From: Colette Meiji
Of course in second life there are plenty of people who really aren't/never will be submissive who like to be called "Submissive/pets/slaves" because they think being a sex slave is "hawt" and like the attention.



Like me!

Folks, for the small token fee of 10,000L/month, I'll be more than happy to put your name in my profile, followed by one of the following statements!

1. [NAME] owns my heart and soul forever.

2. This girl belongs to [NAME]. Any problems with this girl should be reported to [NAME].

3. [NAME] is my Lord/Lady/BooBooKittyfuck eternal!

4. All Glory to the Hypnotoad! AKA [NAME].

Act now on this exciting, non-exclusive offer while space in my profile page lasts!

(GOR references require an additional 5000L non-refundable retainer.)

:p
Rebeccah Baysklef
Meow, Damnit
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 114
06-17-2008 11:47
From: Kyllie Wylie
Great questions and answers!... i'm amazed that this hasn't dropped into a flame war and speaks volumes about the level of maturity of the people here in SL.


I'm actually quite amazed myself. I usually wouldn't have response at all to a thread like this. I actually DID wonder "Oh lord. Flame bait?" It wasn't all that long ago that any post dealing with ANY Alt-lifestyle, let alone BDSM/Power Exchange would have turned into a "God! You people are so sick! How dare you use a fantasy environment to live out your fantasies!" shouting spree.

I'm glad to see that so far, this has not been the case.
Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,940
06-17-2008 11:48
From: Dementia Obviate
When my Master and i were dicussing a particular conversation I had, i asked if he could see the other peoples part of the conversation, he told me no, only mine. In order for him to read mine, i had to agree one time via a pop up box when the scripts were first added to it. So this is consentual on my part. I don't consider it spying because i know full well that it is happening and have agreed to it.


>.<

Oh, I'll go ahead and say it. This makes my skin itch. I'm sorry. I understand it's meaningful and fulfilling to you and I wouldn't try to talk you out of it, but something about this kind of relationship just makes my skin crawl. And I'm not sure why. Back in the day, I was pretty involved with a RL BDSM community. But the older I get, the less stomach I have for it. I can understand and still enjoy "bedroom games," but to have it played out to this extent bothers me in a visceral way. And I'm not saying this is *your* problem. More likely, it's saying something about me. And I'm not sure what that is.
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Morgaine Christensen
Empress of the Universe
Join date: 31 Dec 2005
Posts: 319
06-17-2008 12:04
There are some very well thought out and informative posts made in to this thread. I haven't read them all but enough to say well done posters.
Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
06-17-2008 12:12
From: Lorelei Patel
More likely, it's saying something about me. And I'm not sure what that is.


Tastes change?

Heck, I'm not into half what I was twenty years ago, either. Then again, I've picked up some interesting new hobbies since then. ;)
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
06-17-2008 12:16
From: Rebeccah Baysklef
Like me!

Folks, for the small token fee of 10,000L/month, I'll be more than happy to put your name in my profile, followed by one of the following statements!


A moneymaking scheme worthy of The Trout.

Can I get in on this, too? Do you offer franchises?
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Lindal Kidd
Rebeccah Baysklef
Meow, Damnit
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 114
06-17-2008 12:30
From: Lindal Kidd
A moneymaking scheme worthy of The Trout.

Can I get in on this, too? Do you offer franchises?


I do now!!

For an nominal, up-front Franchise Fee of 100,000L, you'll be a proud member of the PretzelWagon^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Baysklef Freelance Slaves LLC family!

With all the pride and prestige that such membership offers....we'll probably have someone come up with a totebag. Maybe a t-shirt. Or perhaps something actually useful, like a slave collar that lets you change the engraved "name" on it on the fly.
Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
06-17-2008 13:32
From: Rebeccah Baysklef
I do now!!

For an nominal, up-front Franchise Fee of 100,000L, you'll be a proud member of the PretzelWagon^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Baysklef Freelance Slaves LLC family!

With all the pride and prestige that such membership offers....we'll probably have someone come up with a totebag. Maybe a t-shirt. Or perhaps something actually useful, like a slave collar that lets you change the engraved "name" on it on the fly.


Aw, nuts, I don't have that much in my account. I'll just have to rip off your idea instead. :D
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Lindal Kidd
Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
06-17-2008 14:42
From: Karl Herber
..... I do not want any relationship, SL or RL, where both parties are not equal.....


Wow,
both the same height
same weight
same job
same income
same IQ
same sex
and you take it in turn to have the babies.

Isn't equality wonderful?

:)
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
06-17-2008 14:44
From: Rock Vacirca
Wow,
both the same height
same weight
same job
same income
same IQ
same sex
and you take it in turn to have the babies.

Isn't equality wonderful?

:)
That sounds thoroughly deviant to me! ;)
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,032
06-17-2008 14:56
From: Rock Vacirca
Wow,
both the same height
same weight
same job
same income
same IQ
same sex
and you take it in turn to have the babies.

Isn't equality wonderful?

:)

Funny is, in one of my postings I already said that my D/s relation is based on equality. My favourite expression is: 2 equal people in an unequal relationship.
My gf as a person is equal to me, just as valuable a person. But in no way equal in our relationship.
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Rebeccah Baysklef
Meow, Damnit
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 114
06-17-2008 16:48
From: Lindal Kidd
Aw, nuts, I don't have that much in my account. I'll just have to rip off your idea instead. :D


No no no!

Wait!

We can work out a payment plan!!!


:)
Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,940
06-18-2008 10:48
From: Rock Vacirca
Wow,
both the same height
same weight
same job
same income
same IQ
same sex
and you take it in turn to have the babies.

Isn't equality wonderful?

:)


*laugh* minus the job and an inch or two in height, that's what I've got =)
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Whyspe Wylie
Registered User
Join date: 4 Dec 2007
Posts: 108
06-18-2008 12:06
This thread just reminded me of some incidents from a few years ago.
My 17yr old stepson came home from his fast-food summer job and told me that the husband of a newly hired cook had called to tell the management that if they had any problems with her, they were to call and let him know.

A few months later, the cook came in to work with her head shaved and happily told everyone at work that she'd 'been bad'.

I remember thinking that I wished she'd be a little more discreet since I really didn't want to discuss D/s dynamics with my minor stepson, but I did find the stories interesting.
Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
06-18-2008 12:20
From: Whyspe Wylie
with her head shaved

:eek:

No way in hell that would EVER be an option in my world.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
06-18-2008 12:55
From: Ann Launay
:eek:

No way in hell that would EVER be an option in my world.


Oh, I dunno ... Ive seen some sexy bald chicks. You really have to be special in the looks department to pull that off though.
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-18-2008 12:57
From: Ghosty Kips
Oh, I dunno ... Ive seen some sexy bald chicks. You really have to be special in the looks department to pull that off though.

Persis Khambata comes to mind.
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Ann Launay
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06-18-2008 13:36
From: Ghosty Kips
Oh, I dunno ... Ive seen some sexy bald chicks. You really have to be special in the looks department to pull that off though.

Yes, but *they've* generally decided to be bald, not had it done to them.

If the woman in question wasn't upset about it, then it was obviously within the boundaries of whatever agreement she'd come to with her husband, but I would never let a man dictate my hair style to me, even if we weren't talking about shaving it off.

Which is not to say that I might not change it to please him, but that would still need to be my choice.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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