just ignore and let this one die

I have both, the endless tv watching (while criticizing what I am doing) AND the pointing out that 'SL is all about sex, period) because that's what the media says. I have come up with countless opposing articles and opinions, but they hear/see wht they want to hear. They are more deaf than I am, because I can hear with my heart.

i was in KINDERGARTEN!

I'm embarrassed to say that I'm hungry and this looks really good especially the greasy potatoes, lol

when those connections take priority over RL relationships, and confuse said RL relationships with intimate feelings... then yeah, i think the RL person has a valid arguement.

Good morning everyone! I'll need to work my way backwards through the thread today. What'd I miss?

I'm up to #28 on that MHO hunt. I'll try to do more tonight.

A bit of local news...you might have heard about that topless coffee shop that opened a few months ago.

It burned to the ground yesterday morning. The police suspect arson.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/03/topless.shop.fire/index.html

/me crosses his arms. Newp. I surely am not.

and your radar is aimed directly at Brenda.

You're right, I'm sure. I do try to remain aware of that. But it's a 2 way street. I am not constantly 'on' about the endless tv watching, because that is what he likes to do. But as you say 'that' doesn't detract or change RL. He can get up and leave the tv and come back later and feel no pain, much easier than I can leave SL. If I am busy in SL, I feel anxious and uneasy (withdrawel, yeah). He doesn't think about tv when it's off. I do think about SL when not inworld. You could be right.......about validity, if a threat is perceived to the rl. Being brutally honest, I can see how that perception could exist. It could even be more than perception. Thanks for the insight even though I don't enjoy looking that directly in the face.

'confuse' is not the word- confuse implies - well - confusion- as in not valid- if RL person was more - something - fill in the blank - the need would never arise- yeah i know- you dont like the rules, get out of the game- not always feasible- not honest no- but as long as you know the bill will come due and are willing to pay- just no excuses, no, 'i didn't know' - eyes wide open -

it sucks ok- but life is well what it is and no one gets out alive

He, he- noted Hope he can handle tape burn...

as Amar said, we each make our own path.

to be fair, intimate relationships do not have to be sexually based. i do not do ANYTHING in SL that would jeopardize my RL relationships. i do not do ANYTHING in SL that i would hide from my husband.

but - it would be a tragic loss in my life if i had to give up SL and my 'friends'. they do impact my RL, and they mean something to me. i do spend a great deal of time communicating in SL, and it does sometimes impact my RL relationship because sometimes i allow it to take priority. i am as guilty as anyone, so please don't think i was being condescending or self righteous.

but - i could walk away. and i would, if my RL became jeopardized beyond jealosy of time spent here.

She does cause a major blip on my cute-dar.

In the RL/SL tug-of-war, sometimes RL has to give a little, too.

I agree that RL is more important. It is, after all, *real*.

At the same time, it's not as though there aren't RL analogs to what we do.

I haven't been around much because of disagreements over SL. (The dead cats were a pretty effective turn-off too.) I've been feeding the RL relationship and it's been worthwhile, of course, but I would like to get back to SL.

My husband and I had another flare-up recently. I mentioned it to one of my husband's friends, who responded, "Yeah, I get that same attitude about my soccer games."

It's easy for our partners not to notice when they close us out of their activities and interest.

The demands of our RL friends and family can sometimes be unfair.

For example: he (let's call him Nelson) is watching something on TV. I am in another room talking to a friend in SL. Things get quite involved; my friend is very upset about something. Nelson's TV show ends, he shuts off the TV. My friend in SL suddenly confides what is REALLY bothering her. Nelson remembers that the street market is today and he wants to go wander through the stalls. He comes into the room, sees me on the computer, and makes a noise of disgust.

"Are you ALWAYS on that thing? Can't you shut it off for once and go outside?"

What makes it unfair is not that I have to shut off an emotional situation that just opened.

What makes it unfair is that he has walked past me a handful of times in the past hour and said nothing, but now, in the MOMENT that he wants something I am not sitting there with a "yes, dear?" on my face.

Before he put his foot in the door, I have already said, "brb - husband" to my friend and I'm looking up at him, ready to listen to whatever he has to say. I'm ready to put down the computer and do something with him.

But he sees the computer as an offense, as if I'm sitting there giving him the finger with both hands, and somehow throwing a turd at him with a third.

I'm not. I'm just sitting there.

Not complaining so much, as just saying. I'm dealing with it. We talk about it.

Yes. /me nods vigorously. BUT, by the same (fair/unfair) token, don't even THINK about that situation being reversed, BEFORE the tv show goes off, if YOU should walk in and say let's go to the street market.....because......HIS SHOW IS ON!!! At least that's how it is in my house. Why should it always be about 'his' immediate need/gratification? (Im ready now, so therefore, it's time for you to be ready now) Like you, I will make my SL goodbyes and be ready to go do whatever, but sometimes, it's not fast enough and I still get the teeth sucking eye rolling drama and the 'damn computer' comments. *AND* I never, ever throw out negativity about the tv watching, even when he interrupts me and says watch this, watch this (something on the tv) when I personally give less than a damn. I still look up and watch it but God forbid if I miss it, then, my 'head is buried in my 'Stupidlife' (not that original or creative, Amara).

Did you happen to catch the earlier, un-edited version of this report? The edited one makes it sound like he committed suicide; the original report was rather clear in what he was doing that caused his death. Yes, it was probably embarrassing to the family, but the old guy was enjoying himself. I will miss him.

Howdy folks!

Just a couple of quick comments;


I'm sorry, but how could this combo NOT work. What's wrong with this poor fellow.



I'm not sure who Gayathri is or what they do, but I think this staement speaks volumes.

Thanks to Oryx and the others for attending and reporting back to use.

Mari: I thought the Parade video was great and the dancing smoking Linden was too funny. Your talents never cease too impress me.

Todd: Thanks for the link to the Carlin "TODD" routine. As I watched it I couldn't help but think how fortunate I am that over the years very few people have ever wanted to call me "Dick". To be honest I have been called "a dick" a few times, but that had nothing to do with being named Richard.

To everyone else be well!

If or when this forum does go away, you will find where ever the regulars from this thread land. You truely are a amazing, fun groups of folks.

The following comments are not specifically addressed to anyone in particular, just random thoughts from the proceeding discussions in this thread.

heh. Is the television no longer the "boob tube", the opiate for the masses of unwashed? I mean perceived that way (personally, I always hated comments like that about television, or anything someone gets enjoyment out of, but still, that is/was the common refrain I, at least, would hear others say)? You (plural you) may or may not have DVR, but it is relatively easy to get, and it comes 'free' with some services. There is no 'because I'll miss something!' excuse with TV now with DVR (or, before, with VCR, the DVR part, though, allows you to set it to start at a certain time, and if you come in five minutes late, you can watch that five minutes while at the same time the DVR is recording whatever is happening, at some point it is five minutes after the show was 'supposed' to end, and the show now ends (ie, you are watching the show five minutes behind; with vcr you would not be able to do this, you would have to just record, or just watch the five minutes and hope you do not miss anything while hurriedly speeding through taped program so can get back to 'live' airing).

As opposed to SL where you can't 'freeze' things in place. Can't come back later, and hey, there's all your friends, that party you wanted to go to, frozen, waiting for you.

heh, when I used to watch tv, I'd record 'my shows' on the dvr so I could explore SL. Then, when I was bored, I could watch whatever show whenever I wanted. Not tied to some schedule and not forced to watch commercials. Only reason it is "used to watch" is because the cable died for some reason roughly two years ago. Died in that I could see certain channels, but not network (except one, the channel I had only one show I watched on), and not most of the cable channels I cared about (like USA, etc. (etc. is not a channel)).

And now I stop rambling on and on and go back to frantically doing nothing. Can't do my job until I get the official transcript. Where the heck is it? aaaaahhh. (oops, sorry, annoyed, I am).

Just as much as when Jack said a couple of weeks ago that he didn't know so many people were upset over Plan Ursula. They are either totally clueless or just plain liars.

They said the girls were hot......

Blue actually addressed this as well. He was all sad and confused that his "go and play" comment on the blog a few weeks ago was not taken well. We explained that we feel that LL doesn't listen to us at all, and that when it makes these huge sweeping changes, we'd like to at least communicate with LL in an adult fashion.

I forget the thread but someone posted recently "Remember that the Lindens read these forums very closely..."

I had to laugh.

Didn't someone recently say (maybe in this thread) about talking to some Lindens who weren't even aware that there ARE forums?

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Reading the forums would be an excellent way for the Lindens to keep abreast of what's happening in SL.

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Now now, Seven....that kind of talk is only appropriate for Adult rated areas.

Reading the forums makes baby Lindens cry. The rumor months ago was that they were discouraged from reading them so their morale wasn't hurt.

I was sadly amused at the commetn that we should tell everyone to speak up - that LL hears us - someone else said it is a far thing between being heard and being listened to. Another menitoned- rather vehemently I thought - that LL is a business and does not have to cater to us. True of course, and as someone else said, it is a business we pay a crap load of money to. What it all boils down to people is suck it up really or move on. There is no other SL- nothing is anywhere near where SL is with all its quirks and screw ups. Live with it, sit and rumble what ever- but the fact is - they hold the reins and we are just hanging on for dear (S)Life.