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Jerboa Haystack
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01-26-2009 08:44
From: Maureen Boccaccio
OK...just received a work-related email with the subject line:

Subject: Blood Drive & Cooking Demo

:eek:


Um... Gabrielle?!

/me glares sternly around the thread
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01-26-2009 08:45
From: Amaranthim Talon
Hmm- see what i got out of it was - if they thought they were right and the others thought they were right..etc. Not that I don't find somethings that are some how odd enough to make you think twice- then again, i am sure there are equally possible explanations and then Occam shaves it down.


That was the first thing that attracted me about Hinduism - everyone is right, because everyone views God differently. When Gandhi was asked if he was a Hindu, he replied "yes, and a Christian, a Muslim and a Jew". That's the epitome of tolerance and acceptance to me; disconcern about who's religion is "right", and concern that people treat each other with respect.
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Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 08:55
From: Maureen Boccaccio
OK...just received a work-related email with the subject line:

Subject: Blood Drive & Cooking Demo

:eek:

ROFL!!!!
Like the "Eat here, get gas" signs.
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Key MacMoragh
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01-26-2009 08:55
From: Ghosty Kips
That was the first thing that attracted me about Hinduism - everyone is right, because everyone views God differently. When Gandhi was asked if he was a Hindu, he replied "yes, and a Christian, a Muslim and a Jew". That's the epitome of tolerance and acceptance to me; disconcern about who's religion is "right", and concern that people treat each other with respect.


Another thing: if you take Intelligent Design to its logical conclusion, you end up a Hindu.
Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 08:56
From: Ghosty Kips
That was the first thing that attracted me about Hinduism - everyone is right, because everyone views God differently. When Gandhi was asked if he was a Hindu, he replied "yes, and a Christian, a Muslim and a Jew". That's the epitome of tolerance and acceptance to me; disconcern about who's religion is "right", and concern that people treat each other with respect.

That's all well and good and the Golden Rule is a great one- it's the Supreme Deity or Deities that I find a bit hard to accept. Hubris perhaps, but one cannot force oneself to believe in something and it just doesn't seem logical to me.
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Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 08:59
From: Key MacMoragh
Another thing: if you take Intelligent Design to its logical conclusion, you end up a Hindu.

Preface to say, if you read me enough you will know this is not meant as anything but what it appears on the surface, an honest request for information:

Please expound, I would like to see your views on this and why you arrive at that conclusion.



Further, it would take accepting Intelligent Design as fact, which just takes us back to faith which rather negates the need for provable facts.
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Key MacMoragh
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01-26-2009 09:00
From: Amaranthim Talon
OMG- Harlan Ellison is just awesome...


I saw him once... I mean was standing next to him... at the Metropolitan Museum. The friend I was with flipped out and kept whispering, "That's Harlan Ellison! That's Harlan Ellison" and I was like, "Who, the little guy? Who is he?"
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01-26-2009 09:06
From: Key MacMoragh
I saw him once... I mean was standing next to him... at the Metropolitan Museum. The friend I was with flipped out and kept whispering, "That's Harlan Ellison! That's Harlan Ellison" and I was like, "Who, the little guy? Who is he?"

Just found this thought it was cool:

http://www.literature-map.com/harlan+ellsion.html
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01-26-2009 09:06
I'm interested in everyones thoughts on...

Eating a bowl of chocolate pudding, naked, by a campfire singing coombiya.

Really...just wanted to add to this HUNORMOUS post. Holy poor keyboards batman.
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01-26-2009 09:07
From: Amaranthim Talon
That's all well and good and the Golden Rule is a great one- it's the Supreme Deity or Deities that I find a bit hard to accept. Hubris perhaps, but one cannot force oneself to believe in something and it just doesn't seem logical to me.


"...it's turtles all the way down..."
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Key MacMoragh
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01-26-2009 09:08
From: Amaranthim Talon
Preface to say, if you read me enough you will know this is not meant as anything but what it appears on the surface, an honest request for information:

Please expound, I would like to see your views on this and why you arrive at that conclusion.



Further, it would take accepting Intelligent Design as fact, which just takes us back to faith which rather negates the need for provable facts.


Okay. First off, I don't believe in ID. I regard the following as a half-joke, and I don't remember all my reasons or examples, but in a nutshell.

Intelligent Design says that the way the world is made, the way it fits together, is a very intricate design. The presence of a design indicates a designer.

However, the world doesn't fit together so neatly. There are oddities, such as the fact that poison ivy only affects humans.

Also, the presence of diseases, some of which are quite horrible, indicates something quite disturbing about this designer's mental health, or at least his or her intentions regarding humanity.

The apparent inconsistencies and horrible things are easily explained by assuming that there are many or at least several designers, each of whom has their own agenda, and some of whom are (to say the least) whimsical.

If you look for a living religion that could accomodate such a view, the only one that I know of is Hinduism.

QED

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01-26-2009 09:09
From: Jerboa Haystack
"...it's turtles all the way down..."

Rather fond of the Orouborus myself :)
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Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 09:10
From: Key MacMoragh
Okay. First off, I don't believe in ID. I regard the following as a half-joke, and I don't remember all my reasons or examples, but in a nutshell.

Intelligent Design says that the way the world is made, the way it fits together, is a very intricate design. The presence of a design indicates a designer.

However, the world doesn't fit together so neatly. There are oddities, such as the fact that poison ivy only affects humans.

Also, the presence of diseases, some of which are quite horrible, indicates something quite disturbing about this designer's mental health, or at least his or her intentions regarding humanity.

The apparent inconsistencies and horrible things are easily explained by assuming that there are many or at least several designers, each of whom has their own agenda, and some of whom are (to say the least) whimsical.

If you look for a living religion that could accomodate such a view, the only one that I know of is Hinduism.

QED

LMNOP

Ah thank you muchly - sort of Design by Committee :)
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Maureen Boccaccio
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01-26-2009 09:13
From: Harmony Levee
I'm interested in everyones thoughts on...

Eating a bowl of chocolate pudding, naked, by a campfire singing coombiya.

Really...just wanted to add to this HUNORMOUS post. Holy poor keyboards batman.


Well...I love chocolate pudding, campfires and Kumbaya, so...it's all good. I'm hoping there's a blanket by that campfire, though. :p

Hey there, Harmony! :) Glad you stopped by! For your first post here:

Harmony Levee
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01-26-2009 09:17
From: Maureen Boccaccio
Well...I love chocolate pudding, campfires and Kumbaya, so...it's all good. I'm hoping there's a blanket by that campfire, though. :p

Hey there, Harmony! :) Glad you stopped by! For your first post here:




thank you :) hehe. On a serious note though, I think a great book to read that sort of touches on the subject lightly is "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Very excellent read.
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01-26-2009 09:17
From: Harmony Levee
I'm interested in everyones thoughts on...

Eating a bowl of chocolate pudding, naked, by a campfire singing coombiya.




Well,I like everything but that stupid ass song.:o I always thought it was mandatory to be naked while eating chocolate pudding.....
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Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 09:19
/me waves at Rio and her boots! Did you guys get the freebie purple ones i gave the slurl to in Cartel chat last night?
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01-26-2009 09:20
From: Harmony Levee
thank you :) hehe. On a serious note though, I think a great book to read that sort of touches on the subject lightly is "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Very excellent read.


OMG!! The last time that book was mentioned here, it got quite.........interesting.
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01-26-2009 09:20
From: Amaranthim Talon
Preface to say, if you read me enough you will know this is not meant as anything but what it appears on the surface, an honest request for information:

Please expound, I would like to see your views on this and why you arrive at that conclusion.



Further, it would take accepting Intelligent Design as fact, which just takes us back to faith which rather negates the need for provable facts.


(danger...geek mode on!)
In part Amara, I think it depends too on whether you take a positivist or interpretive view on the various myths. Do you look at a myth literally? See that it cannot have possibly been that way, and reject it as silly and false? Or do you view the myth as allegorical? And there-in see something hidden both true and profound?

For a biblical example...are Jacob's sons viewed as actual people? Or as an allegory for the relationships between the early tribes of Isreal? Is Levi the patron of the Levites? Or is he the embodiment of their early history?

It isn't an easy question to answer. And the answer is certainly different for each.
(danger passed...geek mode off...)
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01-26-2009 09:20
From: Amaranthim Talon
/me waves at Rio and her boots! Did you guys get the freebie purple ones i gave the slurl to in Cartel chat last night?



No, I was at Aeble's party at the time. So I forgot by the time I left. I'm old. :o Can you please post SLURL or send me a LM in world later?
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Jerboa Haystack
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01-26-2009 09:22
From: Harmony Levee
I'm interested in everyones thoughts on...

Eating a bowl of chocolate pudding, naked, by a campfire singing coombiya.

Really...just wanted to add to this HUNORMOUS post. Holy poor keyboards batman.


If there's pudding, naked, and campfire...

Kumbaya is NOT what will be crossing these lips. :)
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Well between your fingers and that magical device, you work wonders.


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Amaranthim Talon
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01-26-2009 09:22
From: Rioko Bamaisin
No, I was at Aeble's party at the time. So I forgot by the time I left. I'm old. :o Can you please post SLURL or send me a LM in world later?

I will need to try and remember to do so -- tomorrow -- :( since sadly RL is tossing my SL a loop tonight.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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01-26-2009 09:23
From: Amaranthim Talon
I will need to try and remember to do so -- tomorrow -- :( since sadly RL is tossing my SL a loop tonight.


Oo I'll just look in my chat archives. I smaht like that. Thanks.:)
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01-26-2009 09:24
From: Amaranthim Talon
That's all well and good and the Golden Rule is a great one- it's the Supreme Deity or Deities that I find a bit hard to accept. Hubris perhaps, but one cannot force oneself to believe in something and it just doesn't seem logical to me.


Prefer the Golden un-rule: Do not do unto others what you would not want done to you.

Gets rid of the whole idea of doing unto others from the get-go. Even then, still has one weakness (but still a good starting point, like "First, do no harm.";): It is surprising what some people think other people would enjoy having done to them, especially if it includes saving their soul.
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01-26-2009 09:26
From: Jerboa Haystack
(danger...geek mode on!)
In part Amara, I think it depends too on whether you take a positivist or interpretive view on the various myths. Do you look at a myth literally? See that it cannot have possibly been that way, and reject it as silly and false? Or do you view the myth as allegorical? And there-in see something hidden both true and profound?

For a biblical example...are Jacob's sons viewed as actual people? Or as an allegory for the relationships between the early tribes of Isreal? Is Levi the patron of the Levites? Or is the the embodiment of their early history?

It isn't an easy question to answer. And the answer is certainly different for each.
(danger passed...geek mode off...)

Well- keeping in mind my own screwed up religious up bringing- reminder a hundred pages back we talked about JW's - I was taught to take the Bible literally as well as allegorically- meaning there was room for both and the meanings changed or could be interpreted both ways simultaneously. So while Job is a parable, Sodom & Gomorrah are literal- I happen to have a huge problem with both of those since Job's wife got really screwed in the bargain and Lot was ready to turn his girls over to rape and mayhem for the sake of strangers he did not know were angels.

And just for the sake of whatever- I love Song of Solomon as poetry and do not care a fig for the symbolism there.
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