Bye Bye Forums

QFT. I won't bother to check out LL's new shinies. Don't care.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Lexie locked the discussion over there about closing the forums by saying it should not be used for discussion (actually, at that point it *was* a help request) and that we should discuss it on the forums.

Right hand? Meet left hand. Oh, you may want to talk to brain too.

Yup - just saw that but it had a good run: 2,968 views, 107 replies and it is still in the Popular Questions sidebar where it held top billing for most of the weekend.

Why did I start that thread?

The Blogrums is "where it's at" as far as LL is concerned and where new residents will be steered. In part the post was intended to raise awareness about the forums, and their uncertain fate, within the Blog audience many of whom have no idea the forums exist or are still active.

Given the apparent lack of involvement by Lindens in the forums (there are exceptions and your input here is much appreciated) any amount of complaining/protesting here is as effective as shouting into a vacuum. I reasoned that posting to the blogs would more likely get some Linden attention.

The risk was that response to my post would be mediocre at best thus reinforcing the notion that the forums are dead. As it turned out it got a lot of activity and I thank everyone who went over to the blogs to voice their support.

The thread did bulk up a little on 'mine is better than yours' posts with forum regulars and blog hotshots sparring with each other. However, most everyone involved did conclude that each had a role to play and that the issue was not a matter of 'one or the other'.

Thank you again to everyone who added their voice to the blog thread.

Rime

Well, that could be. I'm open minded.

She locked quite a few with reasons ranging from violating guidelines, lengthy discussions being better suited to these forums and others being better suited to the Jira.

Hmmm. I assume this requires a small amount of competency, ability to focus on things other than shiny, and a willingness to pay attention to what the end users like and want? Do you REALIZE what you're asking here?

Over on my side -- Firefox on a Mac -- hitting delete moves the insertion point into the quoted area and deletes part of the quote. It's like...magic.

Nope. That's just the J-J-J-Jive talkin'.

I suppose I should have taken that bet.

/me tosses Milla a handful of Lindens.

*sigh*

It is recommended by Gartner. That right there is a HUGE warning sign for me.

Gartner is one of the most CLUELESS IT thinktanks ever, and has been for over a decade. In my days contracting with a certain Fortune 100 company locally, it was a running joke that every time the boss came running talking about some new technology bangle that he had to have, or some process or system he wanted to try out, it was a Gartner article that got him going. Invariably, the stuff they recommended was absolute crapola, because the people doing their research weren't technology types but IT manager types. So it was yet another case of the blind leading the blind.

That it is used in "25% of the Fortune 100 Companies" does not make it "not crap". That it has "won awards" (from whom?) does not make it "not crap".

Why would we need to "configure" something which is NOT a forum to make it into a forum, when all we need is something which IS a forum to begin with? Jive seems to fall into that old pit "Jack of All Trades, Master of None".



It is rocket science to LL. <.<

Just wanted to add that, if Jive is so wonderful, I imagine that the black eye that LL is giving them with their ham-fisted implementation of their oh-so-wonderful platform is probably going to cost them business in the long run.

It's looking bleak.

I still have a tiny bit of hope, though. They might give us a manageable forum and a general discussion area. We shall see.

I certainly would like to see a clear answer regarding the fate of RA / General Discussion. I do TRY to be upbeat about LL and its intentions, but if there is no provision for general discussion, then I really will have to conclude that they don't want us talking among ourselves.

And that in itself is a depressing conclusion.

It really looks as though they don't have a plan.

Someone asked for a list of topic areas, or subforums, and clearly that list isn't ready yet.

If I were going to implement this, I would have gotten the new one up and running for a week before I shut off the old one.

When you first release software, there are always problems, and it's good to have the old version there as a standby.



I agree. I interviewed for a job there once, and was left waiting for a long time, during which I read several of their newsletters or whatever they call them. I was astonished and appalled at the lack of understanding, and have never heard anything coming from them that was anywhere near the mark.

Ever the optimist, Scylla. They don't want you talking amongst yourselves, at least in their spaces.

Yeah, that was I who asked for that (maybe others did, too). In all candor, the question was part of a set-up to get them to confess that they intend to replace Resident Answers with Second Life Answers, which they (almost) did. The intent was to generate enough public outcry to make them reconsider that path before it becomes a fait accompli, baked-in to whatever they foist on us next week.

They have to give us the list of banned Adult Keywords first.....

To be fair, Second Life Answers *is* a decent replacement for Resident Answers. It's just that RA has turned into a general discussion sub-forum as well which SLA isn't.

omg i am late..forum closing?? Blog staying?? (why, there is a blog??LOL)
mhm.right..the thing that works better must be deleted!

awww too long! lol

I guess it depends. The way I see it, it's not. What used to make this a great forum was a combination of two things: (1) real questions and (2) people socializing. Those two elements fed off each other.

Everyone get ready for multiple logins. lol You are going to LOVE it.

LOL ya and double posts and all that good stuff heheheh

i wonder if they will give that layout false hope change of a different color and ugly fonts

where have you been TAY tay!!!

hehe I got tired of logging in so I completely gave up on the blogrums.. But you know how I felt about them before they even closed the others. lol

I've pretty much moved on to city of heroes. LL is slowly killing what every has built for them I guess you can say I got tired of contributing and not being heard.