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Yes, Landbots screw us once again, so keep cheering them on!

Snowflake Fairymeadow
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05-18-2007 12:12
the topic is:
Yes, Landbots screw us once again, so keep cheering them on!

It does not seem to be limited to only Mainland screwing.
Tegg Bode
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05-18-2007 18:07
If Landbots, Seachbots & Copybots were fair, they'd be available for everyone to purchase so we could all have a dozen of each.
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05-18-2007 18:11
From: Kitty Barnett
It was happening with 3 512m² last night supposidly, and they weren't terribly cheap (L$4400ish for 512m²). The only victim there was a bot runner who ended up paying L$12k instead if the changed land description is an indication of price paid.

The visible owners of the group owned plot were unverifieds who were hovering around all three 512m² all the time.

Ad plot cutters are those who buy a parcel and cut out 16m²-128m² little strips to be used for those ugly revolving ad signs you see all over the mainland.

The tree planting project supposidly buys a few of them and plants a tree on it instead (I think it's the Arbor Project, search in groups).

I wonder if in reality by the arbor project buying these lots at ridiculous prices they are doing what they want anyway, 3 or 4 trees isn't going to worry and ad farmer in the slightest, only way to do it is put a megaprim tree in the centre that shades out all the crap out of sight
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Valentino Tendaze
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05-19-2007 03:20
From: Tegg Bode
I wonder if in reality by the arbor project buying these lots at ridiculous prices they are doing what they want anyway...

Arbor doesn't suggest or condone paying the extortion prices for 16m2; as you rightly point out it's playing into the Parcel Cutters hands. However, paying a reasonable price for a small lot and recombining it into a larger plot to put trees on or sell to neighbours in the sim fits with the aim of making the ML look better.
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05-21-2007 13:57
Well as the worst landbot strikes again 21 Lindens for 8396 sqm's of waterfront land. I'm wondering what is the deal.

LL has taken action on the original topic of this post, the people changing the prices on land when it's being bought so the buyer never knows it until the actual charge of much more money. All those accounts of people involved in that scam have now disappeared.

Yet the landbots that purchase all of the land that is mistakenly marked for sale incorrectly, have still not been dealt with. What is the difference? Both methods are taking advantage of other residents, both deal with using a modified SL viewer to unfairly take what is not theirs to take. Both cost people money and potentially loose SL players.

I just don't get it. What will make LL understand this? How are these 2 practices not related? In my book it's the same scam just from different angles! And how many people need to loose big money before LL will act? And why is it so hard for LL to stop this, a simple image verification in the buying/selling confirmation windows would stop it, but LL still won't act even though it would only take a few hours to write this simple solution in to the viewer.
Susanne Pascale
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05-21-2007 14:17
From: Muratus Losangeles
Well as the worst landbot strikes again 21 Lindens for 8396 sqm's of waterfront land. I'm wondering what is the deal.

LL has taken action on the original topic of this post, the people changing the prices on land when it's being bought so the buyer never knows it until the actual charge of much more money. All those accounts of people involved in that scam have now disappeared.

Yet the landbots that purchase all of the land that is mistakenly marked for sale incorrectly, have still not been dealt with. What is the difference? Both methods are taking advantage of other residents, both deal with using a modified SL viewer to unfairly take what is not theirs to take. Both cost people money and potentially loose SL players.

I just don't get it. What will make LL understand this? How are these 2 practices not related? In my book it's the same scam just from different angles! And how many people need to loose big money before LL will act? And why is it so hard for LL to stop this, a simple image verification in the buying/selling confirmation windows would stop it, but LL still won't act even though it would only take a few hours to write this simple solution in to the viewer.


A previous poster explained that she believes LL's attitude toward the scam bots is "COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO". I agree with her. I think they are so enamored of clever code, they can't and won't see the larger, and more dangerous social issues of this. What will make them do something about it? Simple - sooner or later, the scam bots will hit the wrong victim. The wrong victim will be someone with connections to a powerful politician or main stream media. [note: I have posted a similar thought in another thread, so sorry for repreating myself]. When this happens [when, not IF..it WILL happen] there will be a firestorm of negative publicity similar to the child porn issue.

Then we will see LL back pedaling like crazy. I for one am going to stock up on pop corn, because THAT particular train wreck will just too, too entertaining to miss.
Sarah Nerd
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05-22-2007 20:51
From: Susanne Pascale
A previous poster explained that she believes LL's attitude toward the scam bots is "COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO". I agree with her. I think they are so enamored of clever code, they can't and won't see the larger, and more dangerous social issues of this. What will make them do something about it? Simple - sooner or later, the scam bots will hit the wrong victim. The wrong victim will be someone with connections to a powerful politician or main stream media. [note: I have posted a similar thought in another thread, so sorry for repreating myself]. When this happens [when, not IF..it WILL happen] there will be a firestorm of negative publicity similar to the child porn issue.

Then we will see LL back pedaling like crazy. I for one am going to stock up on pop corn, because THAT particular train wreck will just too, too entertaining to miss.


When this happens save me a seat on the sofa and pass me the popcorn.
Lord Steadham
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05-22-2007 21:28
From: Muratus Losangeles
Well as the worst landbot strikes again 21 Lindens for 8396 sqm's of waterfront land. I'm wondering what is the deal.

LL has taken action on the original topic of this post, the people changing the prices on land when it's being bought so the buyer never knows it until the actual charge of much more money. All those accounts of people involved in that scam have now disappeared.

Yet the landbots that purchase all of the land that is mistakenly marked for sale incorrectly, have still not been dealt with. What is the difference? Both methods are taking advantage of other residents, both deal with using a modified SL viewer to unfairly take what is not theirs to take. Both cost people money and potentially loose SL players.

I just don't get it. What will make LL understand this? How are these 2 practices not related? In my book it's the same scam just from different angles! And how many people need to loose big money before LL will act? And why is it so hard for LL to stop this, a simple image verification in the buying/selling confirmation windows would stop it, but LL still won't act even though it would only take a few hours to write this simple solution in to the viewer.
I don't get it either, and that bastard is making real money now! Quoting myself from another thread:

From: Lord Steadham
Imagine going into Starbucks and having someone run up and grab the money out your hand as you are paying and run out the door with your cash. Then the cashier says to you "Sorry, what he did is not against Starbucks rules". Would you still want to do business there?

I will not pay another penny of land tier until LL stops the evil wizard bot owner from stealing from others. Ban him already! Since his thievery is within the rules of the TOS, change the TOS and permaban him!
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05-23-2007 12:35
I hope they did do something about it.
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05-23-2007 14:06
"Imagine going into Starbucks and having someone run up and grab the money out your hand as you are paying and run out the door with your cash. Then the cashier says to you "Sorry, what he did is not against Starbucks rules". Would you still want to do business there?"

Very well put.

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Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 14:29
Landbarons like sarah nerd are not better than landbots they are only slow and unable to code a landbot
Snowflake Fairymeadow
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05-23-2007 14:30
From: Tiziana Catteneo
Landbarons like sarah nerd are not better than landbots they are only slow and unable to code a landbot


What an ugly thing to say.
Spotz Spork
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05-23-2007 14:39
Regarding the OP: Hahaha that's actually pretty funny as long as it's not happening to me.
Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 14:41
yes of you don't have hers ban lines all around your land ...
Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 14:49
They only cry in the forum when they loose money asking the community to help them ...
Lord Steadham
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05-23-2007 14:51
From: Tiziana Catteneo
Landbarons like sarah nerd are not better than landbots they are only slow and unable to code a landbot


Rubbish Trollziana. Sarah always gives back mistakes and is very fair in all dealings. These days she is so busy with her other projects that she mostly only buys land from private sales from people who contact her.

If you are seeing ban lines on her land it must be because you are on the Arbor Project ban list. She does not ban people otherwise.
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Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 14:56
Never splitted land so it's just a way she likes to make money making your SL hard

Landbots are not a problem if they can kill business of this kind of landbarons
Lord Steadham
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05-23-2007 14:59
From: Tiziana Catteneo
Never splitted land so it's just a way she likes to make money making your SL hard


yes, she makes my SL hard by offering estates with no up front down payments required, a huge freebie store, affordable prices on her product offerings like hair, and the service of buying land at a very fair price for those who want to sell quickly. If that is a harder SL, then I welcome it wholeheartedly.

You picked the wrong land broker to pick on.

May a landbot imbed itself in your nostrils and cause you everlasting discomfort.
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Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 15:03
From: Lord Steadham


You picked the wrong land broker to pick on.



I prefer to leave the land to auction instead of selling to vampire useless landbarons like the one who is paying you
Lord Steadham
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05-23-2007 15:06
From: Tiziana Catteneo
I prefer to leave the land to auction instead of selling to vampire useless landbarons like the one who is paying you


No one is paying me anything, troll. I prefer to leave you with my mute and ignore options. Enjoy your SL, oh bitter one.
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Tiziana Catteneo
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05-23-2007 15:09
Yes better mute me and ask help to others that don't think that you are useless ... good

Good luck
Ike Fairweather
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05-23-2007 17:08
These landbot threads are getting boring for the simple fact, 2 things seems to always hold true.

#1. 99% of the time, it's a land flipper that's doing the complaining and acting as if they care about the average land owner. It still boils down that the landbots beat them to the punch and hurts their potential personal profits.

#2. Most of this is due to human error. Most of the screw ups are due to paying rushing to sell the land and not paying attention to what they are doing and not taking their time to verify that all information is correct before confirming to sell.
Lord Steadham
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05-23-2007 18:12
From: Ike Fairweather
These landbot threads are getting boring for the simple fact, 2 things seems to always hold true.

#1. 99% of the time, it's a land flipper that's doing the complaining and acting as if they care about the average land owner. It still boils down that the landbots beat them to the punch and hurts their potential personal profits.

#2. Most of this is due to human error. Most of the screw ups are due to paying rushing to sell the land and not paying attention to what they are doing and not taking their time to verify that all information is correct before confirming to sell.


I guess I am in the other 1% since I don't sell land. It's also sometimes a lack of information, not error, when a resident sets to "anyone" because only the person he/she is selling to is nearby and they have no idea that landbots exist. Hard lesson to have to learn but I guess the only way to is get swooped to find about about bots since they continue to run unabated.
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05-23-2007 18:17
From: Ike Fairweather
These landbot threads are getting boring for the simple fact, 2 things seems to always hold true.

#1. 99% of the time, it's a land flipper that's doing the complaining and acting as if they care about the average land owner. It still boils down that the landbots beat them to the punch and hurts their potential personal profits.

#2. Most of this is due to human error. Most of the screw ups are due to paying rushing to sell the land and not paying attention to what they are doing and not taking their time to verify that all information is correct before confirming to sell.


This thread is about bots switching the price mid-transaction. Not sure how that could be construed as human error.
Ike Fairweather
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05-24-2007 04:02
From: Snowflake Fairymeadow
This thread is about bots switching the price mid-transaction. Not sure how that could be construed as human error.


I've seen that happen many times where the price will say one thing in search, but is another when you right click and choose About Land. Again, people are not taking their time and doing their homework before buying. Still human error. When buying land on SL, you have to almost treat it like buying land in RL.
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