My Afternoon as a Slave in Training

Perhaps Cherry and Kadin have put their finger on one of the major factors involved in the miscommunication at the Slave Auction: I never had any desire to be sold as slave or to become a slave. I was interested in learning about the Slave Auction sim. Perhaps somehow this was misconstrued as a desire to become a slave?

The difference is that Gor is RP. The whole of Gor is an RP, it is an RP world based on science fiction books. So like many RPs you can "visit" as a visitor.

BDSM is not an RP. At least not in nearly the same way that Gor is an RP.

Now, if you didn't want to strip, you shouldn't have done.



Could have been handled better, but both in RL and SL it is assumed, if you turn up at a slave auction, a BDSM club, a dungeon, etc, that you have more than a passing interest in what is taking place, and you may in fact be a dom, a sub, or someone who is interested/curious about being a dom or sub. Tourists in BDSM venues are not that common.

Perhaps that was another major misconception. I went to the slave auction thinking "RP slave auction". I did find out as the afternoon went on that it really wasn't an RP.



I didn't want to strip, and I certainly don't go about skyclad in front of strange people, but I did want to learn about the sim.
/me shrugs
In retrospect, TPing away at this point might have been wiser.



I thought exploring everywhere on public land in SL is quite common, and often in non-public lands as well. I have my share of drop-in visitors to my little bit of land and it's not even public. Evidently the rules are different are the Slave Auction sim?

This thread really is a great advertisement for that Slave Auction place.

Sneaky too.

Yes, but a woman dropping into a slave auction and asking to learn ... well, it's not that surprising what happened. If I happened to be running the place, I would have asked more questions and so forth, but everyone is different. Still, whenever people have "dropped in" on one of my playspaces and had a look round, it pretty much in every case came out that they were very curious about D/s play. Again, not very many tourists just dropping in .. just as you don't have many tourists dropping in to SL's many strip clubs and being surprised at what happens there. Most people stay away from such places unless they have an interest.

So the element that is obvious to everyone except me is that it was assumed that I wanted to be a slave and be sold at auction? I suppose that does put a different spin on things.

I have female friends who have gone to a RL strip club out of curiosity, just to see what it's like. Perhaps the slave auction is different in this respect?

I hadn't equated a strip club with a slave auction anyway, but given the nude pole dancing episode, I can see that there is a great deal of similarity.

Well, no real harm done anyway.

I think that a woman popping in on a BDSM sim and saying she wants to learn is going to have some interesting experiences.

/me chuckles

Now, that certainly is the truth.

I think you have a hard time trusting, with the history you shared I can understand why. But look at it this way. When you got married you made vows to do just that, to love and obey and honor each other. (Dom/Sub relationship now that i think about it) and unsaid you kind of expect/hope that your husband/wife is going to make some effort to make you happy and vice versa. So trusting another person with your welfare happens all the time. Just that in a D/s relationship its spelled out very clear and whats expected is very much out there in front of all. Think about it. As a Domme I know I am expected to make sure my sub feels loved and cared for and know that her happiness is in my hands. Likewise a sub only has to worry about my happiness and realized that my happiness or lack of it is in her hands. I use happiness but it also includes well being, health, love and everything else that goes into helping each other flourish. So Both of you go into this relationship knowing what's expected. From what I read and experienced its taken much more, hmmm, how do I say this. Deeper than marriage... I guess because the expectation is much clearer and you really do put your trust into each other, something that isn't really done in marriage... This is not because there is something wrong with marriage but instead because D/s relationship is spelled out in very specific ways that tells you exactly whats expected.

Well that's my take on it. And what drew me into the D/s relationships. Its deeper than marriage and I wanted to know why and from there the rest of it revealed itself, and still does.

I consider BDSM separate from D/s since D/s is more about the relationship while BDSM seems to be about specific kinks that a person needs to feel fulfilled emotionally. I can see a D/s relationship being vanilla if they wanted it that way. But I can't see BDSM being vanilla. lol. Not sure how that would even look. Not sure it be as much fun without the spoon and pop corn fetishes...

Chai

Well in that case it be like your friends asking the strip club owner what its like and him telling them to strip and put on these pasty things and glass stripper heals and grab a pole. You may of done better just showing up and watching without asking to be part of the show so to speak.

Wow I finally reached the last page. lol

Chai

I see it's your turn on the merry-go-round.

here's a little idea ...

next time you want to be a BDSM tourist, try going as a Domme!
I do this from time to time, never get involved with anything, just watch and chat with folks, very respectfully.

you might still get hasseled a bit, generally by nekked men kneeling at your feet, but people tend to be a helluva lot more respectfull.

Yes, yes this is exactly how I view it as well. It's why I prefer the term D/s to describe my way of being. It's sometimes expressed in a more typically "BDSM" way, but it often is not. I do think that many "vanilla identifying" relationships have elements of D/s in them (regardless of what people openly say about things, often in a relationship someone is the leader in the relationship, someone is the follower, etc.) without having the outward trappings of being "kinked". And I know that many of my RL girlfriends have shared with me things they like to do in bed with their boyfriends/husbands that are not "classically kinky", and don't involve anything that would visually scream "BDSM", but nevertheless certainly play with the sexual power between men and women and eroticize that power in a way that I am guessing is not so atypical in heterosexual bedrooms all over the place and in my mind would fall under the broader rubric of "D/s". So yes, I see this as a useful distinction *for me* ... I do well realize, however, that for many people (and for me as well at times) there is an overlap between BDSm and D/s, to a greater or lesser extent depending on the person and the relationship involved.



Grins.

OMG quoted for truth, and remembering a time a VERY very long time ago when I did just observe and that was just lines of scrolling text.

Sigh.

I believe I finally understand my afternoon at the Slave Auction Sim.

Thank you's to Bull and all the folk at the Slave Auction Sim, and to all the people who posted in my thread. I have learned not only about your lifestyle, but another piece from my distant past has slipped more comfortably into the jigsaw puzzle that is my life.

My apologies to Bull and to anyone at the Slave Auction Sim that I have angered or offended. Your lifestyle tapped into a long-ago experience in my life. I equated Bull with a person in my past, and anger that I evidently still hold towards this person from my distant past was directed toward Bull. This wasn't fair to Bull. It also colored my attitude toward the Slave Auction. Again, this wasn't fair.

I would IM Bull directly in-game, but he has become angry with me and muted me. I may send a note to one or more of the slave auction folk.

I hope this thread results in increased profits for Bull and that all consequences for those in the Slave Auction sim are positive ones.

(This is also posted at the beginning of the thread)

My advise: just let it go.

And end this epic thread?

So what? You're all just going to let this thread die??

Just ignore it and let this one die.

We were laying preliminary claim to it in case the undead thread imploded at 32K. It didn't, so...

Acutally, we only passed 32,000. We still have about 500 posts to go to hit the cumputer version of 32K which is 32,768

Yep. You can just let this one die now. *grins evilly*

*reposts*

I went to try to sign up to have myself trained an auctioned off like this, but i misread the sign. I ended up at a Slav Auction, and since my knowledge of Eastern European languages is pretty limited, I had a really hard time adjusting. I did meet a nice girl from Belarus, though. She made a delicious beet stew. Unfortunately, I hate beets, so it didn't work out.

Anyway, that was my experience at the Slav Auction. I don't know how much money I made, because I don't think they were using Euros (honestly, I'm just too lazy to Google Slavic currency and find out ). I don't think I need to do THAT again. Maybe I can get into a nice South pacific Islander Auction. I could pretend to be Samoan and get a vacation somewhere tropical.

So...damnit! Angry and frustrated.

I went to try to get involved in a slave auction again. This time I was SUPER careful and got the word "slave" right. But then I slacked off because it's Friday and ended up at a Slave Action. They were marching around in silks carrying signs that said things like, "Free the Slaves" and "Equal Rights for Owned Avatars". The Second Life Slave Gardener Brigade was there with their signs that say, "Hell No, We Won't Mow." Some guy from Gor was hollering into a megaphone, but he was speaking Gorean, so I couldn't understand a word of it. It sounded like Serbian. I've had some recent experience with that. Something about demanding fur-lined silks for the winter months.

Anyway, I was trying to leave when the SL riot police showed up. I tried to convince them that I didn't belong, but they wouldn't listen. They shot me with a bean bag gun and it hit me square in that really sensitive spot on the inside of the thigh. While I was on the ground sobbing like a little girl, they sprayed me with pepper spray and a German Shepard bit me. They're charging me with cruelty to animals because the dog got pepper stray in his mouth and I guess it hurt. By that time I had passed out from shock and pee'd my silks.

It was awful, but I learned one thing: Avoid Slave Actions. They suck.