Proposal for a new resmod
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Sally Silvera
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11-04-2007 16:55
From: Isablan Neva /me fires up the popcorn popper and makes an extra large batch of double spiced rum eggnog..... ROFL..... just .......ROFL someone pretty please make this thing go away (ya i'm not helping at this point but i'm annoyed and emarrassed) i´m not sure where this horror stuff came from and not keen to find out because i wish people would understand that these forums are useful for most of us!!!!! /me suggests those into private discussions should get a room 
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Alyx Sands
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11-04-2007 17:09
From: Joshua Nightshade Achieve? I'm goofing off until Strife wakes up and locks the thread. What're you trying to achieve?  Get a good night's sleep. I see that whatever I say, it's apparently wrong in your eyes. Maybe tomorrow I'll wake up and you're gone pestering someone else. And I almost said something gay. But then again, I'm a big queer myself and it would probably have been okay. Never mind, Joshie. I'll go feed my cats now, no more troll feeding for me today. Hope your sandbox is ready for you.
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Chas Connolly
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11-04-2007 17:20
From: Alyx Sands Get a good night's sleep. I see that whatever I say, it's apparently wrong in your eyes. Maybe tomorrow I'll wake up and you're gone pestering someone else. And I almost said something gay. But then again, I'm a big queer myself and it would probably have been okay. Never mind, Joshie. I'll go feed my cats now, no more troll feeding for me today. Hope your sandbox is ready for you. Aaaarggghhh, Alyx your words are wasted, you are wasted on this thread. Go and have some fun! I'm off to do just that 
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Joshua Nightshade
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11-04-2007 17:26
From: Alyx Sands Get a good night's sleep. I see that whatever I say, it's apparently wrong in your eyes. Maybe tomorrow I'll wake up and you're gone pestering someone else. And I almost said something gay. But then again, I'm a big queer myself and it would probably have been okay. Never mind, Joshie. I'll go feed my cats now, no more troll feeding for me today. Hope your sandbox is ready for you. Aww, I still love you though. :hug:
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Freya Junot
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11-04-2007 17:44
/signed Chance has my vote! He rocks... this is serious Rock! Give Peace a Chance Give Chance a Peace 
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-04-2007 18:50
In summary, we <3 Chance. Well, except for Crystal, but she could grow to love him. Strife needs a co-pilot, and Chance would rock.
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Crystal Jimenez
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11-04-2007 19:10
From: Cristiano Midnight In summary, we <3 Chance. Well, except for Crystal, but she could grow to love him. Strife needs a co-pilot, and Chance would rock. Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how biased it may be I guess. 
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Wildefire Walcott
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11-04-2007 19:16
THIS is a job for Thread Prayer Cat! 
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-04-2007 19:17
From: Cristiano Midnight Strife was made a resmod without any input from those customers he suddenly had power over (even though he is simply another paying customer). In addition, hundreds of abuse reports pointing out his egregious behavior fell upon deaf ears because LL has abandoned these forums. They have made no secret of that. Now that volunteers are being called for, we are hoping that someone will get in who will moderate as a moderator should, not someone who fancies themselves the hall monitor and makes comments about being the police of these forums. We aren't trying to get "our own" resmod in, simply offering support to someone we think would make an excellent resmod. Well, no one answered my question in the other thread, which was rather suddenly locked. I'm still trying to figure out if the applications from people who would like to be resmod are going to be viewed first by Strife, who will then discard any he doesn't like. In which case, it won't matter WHO is encouraged to apply, or even who applies - all that will matter is whether Strife thinks it is a good idea for that person to be a resmod. From what Strife has said, that is the case. But surely that isn't the case? coco
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Joshua Nightshade
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11-04-2007 19:20
From: Cocoanut Koala But surely that isn't the case? Coco, look at where we are, and ask that question again.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-04-2007 19:38
/me extends a Laurel, and Hearty Welcome to The Ancient Ones for returning to the Nest. Please mop up all the Piss when you are done. Thank You.
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Nika Talaj
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11-04-2007 19:49
From: Cocoanut Koala I'm still trying to figure out if the applications from people who would like to be resmod are going to be viewed first by Strife, who will then discard any he doesn't like.
In which case, it won't matter WHO is encouraged to apply, or even who applies - all that will matter is whether Strife thinks it is a good idea for that person to be a resmod.
I wouldn't get all twisted up about it for the following reasons: 1. Strife has posted the name of the Linden he sent the names to. If you want to nominate someone, send that person the name yourself. (what applications? I didn't see any formal applications!) 2. I think Strife was only filtering for too low a post count and outrageously unlikely candidates (e.g. Jumpy). I wouldn't dig too deep for conspiracy here. 3. No decision will be made until a new "community manager" is hired. Not only will that hire probably take forever as Mal points out, but two things stand out about that job description: a. The forums are not mentioned. "Manage 3 Major Communication Channels: Second Life Blog, Newsletter, Podcast ..." b. They are not looking for a senior person. "Requirements: 3-5 years experience writing in print, online publication, customer or client-facing communication. Writing samples. BA/BS degree" *shrug* I'm not holding my breath.
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kaia Ennui
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11-04-2007 20:29
/signed!!!111
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-04-2007 20:40
From: Wildefire Walcott THIS is a job for Thread Prayer Cat!  It is absolutely amazing how powerless I am against LOLCATS.
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11-04-2007 21:33
you know, every time I hear "This forum/game/hangout is dead" somewhere I just have to laugh...
you get 2 choices there 1) it's patently unture, and the speaker is just miffed about one thing or another 2) it Might be true, if they'd actually stop showing up to say such things, and making themselves a liar by their presence
either way you lose
@Conspiracy theorists the scenario is: Strife 2 LL: I could really use some help moderating, any chance of minting new mods? LL: maybe, make a list of people you reccomend and give it to us, you know most of the people there Strife: ok Strife to board: hey anyone want to be insulted daily for no pay, I'll reccommend you to LL for mod if you do Board: <insert various cacophony>
now would you reccomend anyone that a) you didn't have a good idea of their work b) has a stated desire to see the boards you mod on go away c) frequently attacks or criticizes other posters d) has tendencies toward overreaction e) frequently disregards forum policy
I know wouldn't
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-04-2007 21:39
From: Nika Talaj I wouldn't get all twisted up about it for the following reasons: 1. Strife has posted the name of the Linden he sent the names to. If you want to nominate someone, send that person the name yourself. (what applications? I didn't see any formal applications!) 2. I think Strife was only filtering for too low a post count and outrageously unlikely candidates (e.g. Jumpy). I wouldn't dig too deep for conspiracy here. 3. No decision will be made until a new "community manager" is hired. Not only will that hire probably take forever as Mal points out, but two things stand out about that job description: a. The forums are not mentioned. "Manage 3 Major Communication Channels: Second Life Blog, Newsletter, Podcast ..." b. They are not looking for a senior person. "Requirements: 3-5 years experience writing in print, online publication, customer or client-facing communication. Writing samples. BA/BS degree" *shrug* I'm not holding my breath. 1. I don't think questioning whether a thing works as it has been said it works, or stating that one dislikes it if so, is "digging for conspiracies." That's a rather insulting exaggeration, don't you think? A conspiracy is something secret, that several people are in on. There was nothing secret about Strife announcing that the applications were going through him, and he would get rid of some of them before he gave them to the Lindens. Therefore, there could be no conspiracy in this situation, for its lack of secrecy alone. Repeating what has been said, and asking whether or not one understood it correctly, and stating that if so, one doesn't like the situation, and why, is hardly tantamount to suspicion of conspiracy. 2. I think what you might be saying is that to you, this isn't a big deal, and you don't think it should be a big deal to anyone. If so, couldn't you just say that, rather than suggesting that the person asking the question imagines "conspiracies?" 3. Did Strife say he was filtering for too low a post count? If he did, I missed it. And what would be "too low a post count?" And how do we know what his ideas for "outrageously unlikely candidates are? I have a feeling that his idea of that and, say, mine, might differ. He could be just a whole LOT more picky about who he lets get through to the Lindens than I would, for instance. Anyway, I'm sure LL will ask his opinions, and nothing is to stop him from saying, "Hey, no, you for sure don't want [this or that person.]" It's the thought that he will be sitting there all on his lonesome making WHATEVER evaluations he wishes, while answering to no one except the trash bin, that bothers me. As it damn well should. 4. MY guess is what likely happened is he offered to do part of the work for them , so we could get some more resmods. Nothing sinister in his motivation there. We all know they don't want to be bothered with us or these forums, and he was probably trying to get them to at least consider more resmods (before, they have simply refused to add any), and he was probably just trying to make it as easy on them as possible, so they would be more inclined to agree. But it is still NOT a good idea. I'd rather not have more resmods than have one resident in control of the whole thing. The whole point of having more than one resmod is to prevent that very problem. 5. It had already occured to me, needless to say, that people could bypass Strife on their own. But why should that be a part of the system? Is that a good system, where you have to go around it? Why should we have to do that? Why shouldn't the Lindens get to see everyone who would like to volunteer? Moreover, doesn't it strike you that anything coming in over the transom that way - i.e., not using the system as set up - might have a mark against it from that alone? And why should Strife be the one and only resident who gets to reject an application out of hand? Is he a Linden? A better plan would be to submit ALL the applications, with his notes on any he felt needed notations written on the top. 6. I don't get the point of your point number 3. If it's that this will never happen anyway, I don't think that's very good, either. 7. As for your point about applications, well, that's just silly. Obviously people have been invited to put themselves forward for this, and that IS the application. coco
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Nika Talaj
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11-04-2007 23:12
From: Cocoanut Koala 1. I don't think questioning whether a thing works as it has been said it works, or stating that one dislikes it if so, is "digging for conspiracies." That's a rather insulting exaggeration, don't you think?
Ok, it was an exaggeration, I take it back. I meant simply that I don't see anything out of line about the Lindens delegating resume screening to anyone they choose. To me, better Strife screen candidates than some HR flunky who doesn't know what a forum is. From: someone 3. Did Strife say he was filtering for too low a post count? If he did, I missed it. And what would be "too low a post count?" From: someone Strife: I'm really looking for folks with a greater post quantity, in the 500+ range. There aren't so many of them volunteering so I'll probably reduce it to 200+. But that was not the only criteria; his first few posts in the original thread give an informal job desc. For example, both having been a resmod before and having more than one language seemed desirable, which makes sense to me. From: someone And how do we know what his ideas for "outrageously unlikely candidates are? my phrase, not his. From: someone It's the thought that he will be sitting there all on his lonesome making WHATEVER evaluations he wishes, while answering to no one except the trash bin, that bothers me. I see that it does ... again, this happens whenever a company has someone screen applicants. It comes down to a matter of trust, and your opinion there seems clear. From: someone 4. MY guess is what likely happened is he offered to do part of the work for them , so we could get some more resmods. I'm sure you're right. He said that Iridium agreed to look at candidates, not that Iridium ASKED for them. (Incidently, I'm sure you know coco but for others: rumor has it Iridium is no longer with LL). From: someone A better plan would be to submit ALL the applications, with his notes on any he felt needed notations written on the top. He has already submitted names. For all I know he did as you suggest - check with him. From: someone 6. I don't get the point of your point number 3. If it's that this will never happen anyway, I don't think that's very good, either. It's more that this certainly won't happen soon. So, if you wish to change the process - perhaps by suggesting to Strife that he submit all names with his comments - I believe you have time to do so. I have seen Strife try new behaviors as a result of fairly calm requests. Demands, however, seem to make him dig in his heels. Guess now we know he's actually human.
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Sally Rosebud
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11-04-2007 23:39
From: FlipperPA Peregrine Crystal: serious question. You've posted (last I saw) 77 times to these forums in the past almost two years. A whopping 38 posts per year average. Probably over a third of your total post count is in this thread. Why do you care so much? Do you have a personal agenda in play here? Compare your numbers to mine; Over 3600 posts over four years, or 900 posts per year, or let's say an average of about 3 posts per day. When you see a place you care about that used to have great debate and a lot of fun turn into a stagnant cesspool, you reply. I don't see how your minimal time investment here gives you any leverage in this argument. A lot of us have a lot more time, blood, sweat and tears invested in this place. You may want to consider that experience usually leads to insight. Regards, -Flip Yeah, that.
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Strife Onizuka
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11-05-2007 04:22
Only cancers grow this fast but I took the time to read most of the thread (more then enough to confirm my suspicions). I won't be accepting nominations, thats just too cruel a think to do to someone but I have contacted Chance to ask if he wants to volunteer (if he does I'll start doing the paperwork). Action: Lock & LR Source: AR Reasons: Flaming, Trolling, Private Discussion Forum GuidelinesFlaming, Spamming, Trolling – Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are strongly discouraged. If you think your post might be over-reactive, or that it might fall into one of these definitions, please reconsider posting. Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
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