What is the point of the Land Flood? what about us?

"If their interference doesn't benefit me personally, it shouldn't be allowed".

Sounds like someone dont like the big bad land dealer You have to remember, that SL isnt just a internet thing, its a Broadband thing, many places n the world dont have broadband yet, but will have it within the next 5 years, so I dont see thepopulation being satuated anytime soon, wait till some of these poorer countries like Philippines gets in on second life, this land baron hatred is so tiny right now, wait till till real ruthless people get involved

Naiintindihan ba ninyo?

Ouch!! Low blow my friend

Watch what you say about certain cultures/peoples.

I got a big can of worms here so I suggest keeping the lid on.

The Second Life economy is not like Real Life economy. Though the owners might wish to test some economic theory with Second Life, I don't think the goal was to ever accurately simulate a Real Life economy.

One of the key differences between Real Life land and Second Life land is that there is just a finite amount of Real Life land, but a potentially infinite amount of Second Life land, at the discretion of the Linden Oligarchy.

If you want a Real Life model, don't use a modern industrialized economy. Go back a few or more centuries to the era of colonization. Discovering new land is similar enough to creating new land.

Besides, holding land really doesn't benefit the overall economy. Using land productively is what benefits the economy.

Sound like someone feels like a big land dealer lol

Its not that I dont like land dealers, I actually dont care at all about land dealers, exception made for Anshe Chung that should be boycotted imho because of the "I buy your sim because it will cost a lot more in some days, but you dont know yet, lolz" fraud she made with help of some insider trading hints short before LL did raise private estate prices. I just personally find ridiculous all the wanna-be Barons that flip and carve land without enough experience to know the prices can and will drop, paying insane money for land and then get pains in the back when prices drop "OMG i lostz all ma muneyzoArs". Of course there is even decent people that trade land and dont have such problems, im not talking about ALL are that way. I even have some friends that work in the land business, but they dont speculate like some land sharks, they offer a good service and get a revenue by doing so, nothing wrong with that. I dont even care about extreme high mainland prices, if I would find the price too high, I would just not buy it.

not unless you call 1040 sq meters big land, even thats on sale

Markubis- I was just merely saying that the tiny profits one person might think is fun, could be the difference between feast or famine for other people, I think soon, there will be a large influx of very business minded people that make the current business people look like AL Gore, and yes Im Filipino

Your singling out of Filpinos in the same breath as mentioning ruthless people was not in good taste and could be construed the wrong way. And I suspected you were Filipino from your Tagalog....but being Filipino doesn't give you the right to speak that way.

Bill Brasky hated Mexicans! And he was half-Mexican! ...And he hated irony!

u know it is not even worth it , the land will always be killed, cause it is the only thing that is potentially worth anything, so some will abuse , some will try rectify others will use it to control..... either way its pissin people off..... i will take my 500USDs a month and i will close my ethicially run business and go somewhere where else where other peoples money is more appreciated, thanks.......

Take note here, you have no right whatsoever to censor what I say. But just to entertain you, I dont see calling my culture shrewd or ruthless as derogatory, as a matter of fact, if you understood the Filipino culture you would understand that these words are words of pride and ability. To be called shrewd, or ruthless in business says that you have the edge on your competitor, that your better than them because you are willing to make decisions that others wouldnt dare make. And if it is a bad decision they blame only themslves. which is honorable. Nothing of what I said is in bad taste

No one can control it other than LL. They have made their intentions clear. You either choose to live with the situation or you choose not to. If you are so upset about land prices going down a few Ls per sq m, then sell your land at a loss and take your business elsewhere. You have a choice here.

Putting it like that it kind of looks like Linden Labs are trying to get rid of us ...somthing i have thought for a very long time .

you have made a point here that a lot of people tend to overlook ..LL don't care about the little guy , The statment they made regarding opening a new continent to bring land pricing down shoule have read " we see land pricing is high ..and we are gonna make a pile of cash off the back of it "

The whole *Bubble busting * thing is just speculation by people who think thay understand how secondlife and Linden lab's work ... the truth is they don't ... if they did they would have been singing from the rooftops about how LL will soon stop selling firstland ... i never seen a single post here predicting that one comming .

LL want your money ..that the bottom line ..wether they get it from massisive auctions of whole continents or the land fees made on that land after ... LL want that cash .

And here is another theory to mull over ..... anyone ever thoght that LL might be getting all this land out so as to increase the figures of how much L$ is being spent in a month ? ... they like to display the figures on the main page ... boasting of how much we residents spend in world .... the question is .. who's that to benefit ? .... not me and you thats for sure ..... That little ( big ) figure ( thats a lot bigger than it was in december ) is to show big buisiness that " HEY LOOK .... PLEBS ARE SPENDING A LOT OF CASH HERE .. COME AND GET SOME "

LL want fat cats here who wont complain about being biked .. to them 10 k USD spent on a bit of advertising is chicken change .

Have a little think about it guys

Anywhere that profit is to be made not just in SL but ANYWHERE you are going to have those that try to take more than their share, whether its Elanthius with his beloved landbots, or the vice prez getting contracts for the company he has stocks in. Or Imelda Marcos with her 1000+ pairs of shoes

A $500 investment in SL, is a fraction of what the big movers turn over on a daily basis, not saying that its inadequate at all, you should be commended for taking even that risk. We all learn as we go right? so i would suggest liquidating your assets in SL and see whats left, and build from there with the knowledge you have now. I cant tell you how many times i re-invented myself, from a firstland owner to a club owner to a sim owner to owning multiple islands. it wasnt all 100% success, some things worked, others didnt. just keep adapting till you get the hang of it

On the other hand, if LL make no money, no more SL. They're not a charity, you know.

That and they're not stupid enough to think that an SL with only big companies advertising to each other would be useful, interesting or profitable.

Some people just like conspiracies, I guess.

LL bases thier SL model on Business and Economy, not residential homes and orgies. just read the "what is SL" page, it mentions business and economy before it mentions residential homes, should give you a clear idea where thier priorities are.

My bad. it actually does mention home first! I have to rework my conspiracy theories now!

so they are profiting on every oppertunity and leavin nothing left for the people palyin the game.....

Leave nothing? Leave nothing? There are a lot of opportunities to make money in SL that LL cannot take away from residents.... yeesh...

Not really every opportunity, I heard from some ole timers that they used to charge a sales tax. since we dont pay that now i would guess it was met with enough displeasure that they abolished it. However it might have come down to a tax on them if they where collecting taxes, so that might be the reason they did away with it, im not entirely positive its all true anyways

What the hell are you talking about? They are making more opportunities... even for you, if you could see past your nose.

No. I see them going for lower than that. Back in October, new mainland sims without coastline were going for just above the base 1000US price.

In October of 06 there was roughy 700,000 registered users. And it was before the Big Island rush of November. Considering both those two variables, basing future speculative land prices on the cost in Oct of last year will only lead you down a road of losses and misfortune

Only if you are in the business of buying and selling land. I own a very nice 3000m2 chunk of coast land in Deimos. I bought it for about 12L$/m2. I could have dumped it for three times that just a few week ago. But I did not. Why? I like the land. I get more enjoyment out of it than I would have the extra L$.



LL wants to sell land. The more land they sell, the more tier they collect. Lower prices make people more likely to buy land. And for many people, once they buy a little bit if land, they will want more

If you want to look at it in terms of "fairness" (which I suspect LL doesn't really give a damn about), why is it fair to stick all the new people coming into the game with unusually high land prices?

u know Cristalle, u have not acknowledged anythin that i have said, i have confimed and re-confirmed , that i agree that they should increase the land but as i have said on numerous occasions they are going about it in the wrong way, oh sorry, u probably going to say somthin like " they can do what they want cause they are LL" u addin nothin constructive...... i was simply sayin that they are takin oppertunities away from people, the "leavin nothin" does not meen it in the entire sense of leavin nothing, i am purposly over-exagerating......

i hope for ur sake that one day u are in my situtation..... perhaps then u can just get a little feeling -sorry yes i know , u probably perfect , and the "perfect" exmple of what SL "wants of all of us". but bottom line u have done nothing but agree with the way LL has appraoched this.... and cant see past ur nose cause u are not the one at a disadvantage..... like it has been said, SL is based on real businiess models except when it some ethical decisions, they made the mistake of not providing enough land which forced (yes i know noone forced) us/me into buying high priced land..... now to rectify the situation and only "temporary" they will cause people to lose money.......

it will happen again and again and again..... wait till people are payin high prices then suddenly have a problem with it and then suddenly pump another 100 sims inland, (wait , sorry, i thought there was no time to create firstland or sims..... but suddenly they can release 40 sims? )

yes this is defn the way to go about it....... kinda makes sense dont u think? no time , no resources to create first land , we so behind..... wait oh...wait...oh o forgot about those 40 servers.....lets go live....please......what does this tell you?

They are trying to maximize their profit from land and tier.



I've been telling people this was going to happen for months. I'm sure I'm not alone. You have to ask around. Talk to people who are either in the business or who have been following it for some time.