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Kill Welfare Tuesday

Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 09:15
Before it (continues) to kill our economy.

Just Say No to "Free Money".

End Communism!
Logan Bauer
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06-07-2006 09:16
Kids, just say "no!" to reselling freebies and self-proclaimed top economic minds.
Jonas Pierterson
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06-07-2006 09:29
Free money. Where? Oh wait thats right, I'm not a basic. I don't get free money.
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Lucifer Baphomet
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06-07-2006 09:41
I know how you can get free money Jonas..... sell freebies.
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Ranma Tardis
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06-07-2006 09:44
What Free Money? I pay Linden Labs good American money for my Stipend!
Leia Lulu
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Communism and Capitolism working together
06-07-2006 09:53
I love the SL economy!
Psyra Extraordinaire
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06-07-2006 10:06
Protest against Capitalist-Communism!
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Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 10:13
From: Jonas Pierterson
Free money. Where? Oh wait thats right, I'm not a basic. I don't get free money.


Yes, that was a very wise move by King Philip. Contrary to popular belief there is NO free lunch.

Somebody always pays.

Always.
Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 10:17
Really, in the real world, Communism is dead. Most societies have learned that when an individual has no incentive to make a better life for themself (effort = reward) they merely put in the least amount of work possible.

America is a pretty good example of a Capitalist country, even though we do have some nasty social programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

But on the whole, these programs will not exist for too much longer because we won't be able to afford them. We've wisely lowered the tax brackets for all Americans to promote equality.

After all, why should I have to pay for your medical problem? Not my problem!
Don't have enough for retirement? Not my problem!
And why should you be expected to pay someone to sit at home with 4 kids and get drunk and high? (the elimination of welfare was one of the triumphs of Republican policy - now all those people are busy gainfully employed at McAhdoo or Burger King learning the value of a hard days work). Not my problem!

I have high hopes that SL will come to evolve into a Capitalist paradise and be an example even for the United States.
Ranma Tardis
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06-07-2006 10:25
From: Jamie Bergman
Really, in the real world, Communism is dead. Most societies have learned that when an individual has no incentive to make a better life for themself (effort = reward) they merely put in the least amount of work possible.

America is a pretty good example of a Capitalist country, even though we do have some nasty social programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

But on the whole, these programs will not exist for too much longer because we won't be able to afford them. We've wisely lowered the tax brackets for all Americans to promote equality.

After all, why should I have to pay for your medical problem? And why should you be expected to pay someone to sit at home with 4 kids and get drunk and high? (the elimination of welfare was one of the triumphs of Republican policy - now all those people are busy gainfully employed at McAhdoo or Burger King learning the value of a hard days work).

I have high hopes that SL will come to evolve into a Capitalist paradise and be an example even for the United States.


What in the world are you smoking?

I have a real life job that pays real life money. I pay a mortage on a real house and pay real money to send my 2 real children to a private school.

What does paying Linden Labs real money to recieve fake money have to do with Communism?
Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 10:26
Quick Primer on Communism v. Capitalism

Communism:
Homeless people: Your problem
Social Security: Your problem
Universal Health Coverage: Your problem
Universal Education Coverage: Your problem
Lazy Workers: Your problem
One Party State: Your problem
Unproductive Members of Society: Your problem
Feeding Everyone: Your problem

Capitalism:
Homeless people: Not Your problem
Social Security: Not Your problem
Universal Health Coverage: Not Your problem
Universal Education Coverage: Not Your problem
Lazy Workers: Not Your problem
One Party State: Not Your problem
Unproductive Members of Society: Not Your problem
Feeding Everyone: Not Your problem

See why it makes sense to be Capitalist now?
Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 10:27
From: Ranma Tardis

I pay a mortage on a real house and pay real money to send my 2 real children to a private school.



Not my problem.

LL is giving away fake money that depresses its value. Thats why its Communism. I'm funding other people's laziness. It goes against every Capitalist bone in my body.
Ranma Tardis
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06-07-2006 10:36
From: Jamie Bergman
Not my problem.

LL is giving away fake money that depresses its value. Thats why its Communism. I'm funding other people's laziness. It goes against every Capitalist bone in my body.



Dhalia Unsung
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06-07-2006 10:43
From: Ranma Tardis



omg... *cleans her monitor and goes back for more coffee*
Joannah Cramer
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06-07-2006 10:43
From: Jamie Bergman
Not my problem.

LL is giving away fake money that depresses its value. Thats why its Communism.

Not my problem.

See? it is capitalism, after all.

edit: You are continually whining to central governing body to do something about your own issues, Jamie. This is as communist as it goes, in your own sense of communism.
Hibame Yoshiro
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06-07-2006 10:45
From: Jamie Bergman
Really, in the real world, Communism is dead. Most societies have learned that when an individual has no incentive to make a better life for themself (effort = reward) they merely put in the least amount of work possible.

America is a pretty good example of a Capitalist country, even though we do have some nasty social programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

But on the whole, these programs will not exist for too much longer because we won't be able to afford them. We've wisely lowered the tax brackets for all Americans to promote equality.

After all, why should I have to pay for your medical problem? Not my problem!
Don't have enough for retirement? Not my problem!
And why should you be expected to pay someone to sit at home with 4 kids and get drunk and high? (the elimination of welfare was one of the triumphs of Republican policy - now all those people are busy gainfully employed at McAhdoo or Burger King learning the value of a hard days work). Not my problem!

I have high hopes that SL will come to evolve into a Capitalist paradise and be an example even for the United States.


The only problem with capitalist America is that corporations are starting to own everything including the government. So if you piss off the wrong people they could easily have you killed and nothing but a small fine would be done to them.
Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 10:49
From: Ranma Tardis


I don't get it.
Jessica Elytis
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06-07-2006 11:06
From: Jamie Bergman
I don't get it.


Nope. You don't

Free money is gone, girl. You miss the update?

LL is standing by thier word and continuing to pay stipends to those already here. They agreed to it and are biting the bullet to do "the right thing". You jsut think the right thing is somehtign differnt. Thankfully, LL has stronger moral ethics.

The stipends will continue to lower in what is given out as "free" to Basics as Basics dwindle. Either by leaving, or by turning to Premium.

You want a quick fix to benifit you and it isn't going to happen. *hands out cheese to go with Jamie's whine"

Yes, someone has to pay for everything. I will gladly pay my part of this to help it slowly evolve. You want it faster? Pay more, or go hide your nuts.

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Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 11:16
From: Joannah Cramer

edit: You are continually whining to central governing body to do something about your own issues, Jamie. This is as communist as it goes, in your own sense of communism.


"Whining" to the central government (as you put it) to end welfare is hardly the same as "whining" to the central government to help establish a stable economy. Especially when it IS the social programs causing the economic instability.
Joannah Cramer
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06-07-2006 11:25
From: Jamie Bergman
"Whining" to the central government (as you put it) to end welfare is hardly the same as "whining" to the central government to help establish a stable economy.

It is the same thing. Since when a real capitalist relies on government to do anything? That's a communist idea to the core, of single central party that always knows best and runs things for everyone.

Just consult your little red book, comrade Bergman, it's all there in black and white cyrillic.
Rasah Tigereye
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Join date: 30 Nov 2003
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06-07-2006 11:26
From: Jamie Bergman

After all, why should I have to pay for your medical problem? Not my problem!
Don't have enough for retirement? Not my problem!


Um, it will be your problem once a lack of these supports makes employee moralle plumet (lost productivity), or you'll have biological outbreaks among poor people spreading around including into your area (have fun cleaning up the bodies), or when people who have to rely on such programs decide to make it your problem by getting into your house and taking your stuff. Pure capitalism doesn't work, just like pure comunism doesn't. When one side (rich, or poor) wins too much it starts to destroy itself. (USSR is a great example of communism destroying itself. Pre 1920/30USA is a perfect example of pure capitalism destroying itself. Those social programs you mentioned weren't created just out of "good will," they were created to make sure shit like what was hapening in late 1800's/early 1900's wouldn't happen again).
Jamie Bergman
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06-07-2006 11:32
From: Rasah Tigereye
Um, it will be your problem once a lack of these supports makes employee moralle plumet... (


No it won't. There is always McAhdoo.

Pull your own weight.
Ranma Tardis
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06-07-2006 11:33
From: Jamie Bergman
I don't get it.


Do I have to explain everthing to you?

In any case Premium Memberships pay Linden Labs for their stipend. They do not pay you for your Lindens and this is the true reason you are upset.
Rasah Tigereye
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Join date: 30 Nov 2003
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06-07-2006 11:53
From: Jamie Bergman
No it won't. There is always McAhdoo.

Pull your own weight.



McAhdoo don't pay no health insurance. I don't want sick nasty people handling my greasy nasty burgers.
vivi Odets
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06-07-2006 12:23
From: Jamie Bergman
Quick Primer on Communism v. Capitalism

Communism:
Homeless people: Your problem
Social Security: Your problem
Universal Health Coverage: Your problem
Universal Education Coverage: Your problem
Lazy Workers: Your problem
One Party State: Your problem
Unproductive Members of Society: Your problem
Feeding Everyone: Your problem

Capitalism:
Homeless people: Not Your problem
Social Security: Not Your problem
Universal Health Coverage: Not Your problem
Universal Education Coverage: Not Your problem
Lazy Workers: Not Your problem
One Party State: Not Your problem
Unproductive Members of Society: Not Your problem
Feeding Everyone: Not Your problem

See why it makes sense to be Capitalist now?


For the most part I've ignored your almost-daily Chicken Little-esque posts about the value of the Linden, stipends and such. They are usually nonsensical and so repetitive as to be white noise in the forums. However, this post jumped out at me and made my jaw drop.

Realizing that there are people in this world who think this way actually makes me very sad. Feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, caring for the ill, providing equitable education -- tossing those issues aside as "not my problem" is a pitiful attitude. I just feel sorry for you if your heart is that hard.
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