The Rampant Anti-Business Climate in SL

I agree with Prok. Ever since hobags entered SL, my escorting income has gone way down and dropped me off the leader boards.

I personally think you are Prok and anyone else who thinks freebies are bad and doing damage (directly or indirectly) to the economy are worrying far too greatly about it.

No, mommy, not the wire hangar!

I got $100L... what do I get for that Panda?

OMG Juro, that is so not like you!

Shades of
Your point?

Pic on it's way!

For $100L it better be one of those 'headless nude torso' pics.

Everyone can afford something.
No one can afford everything.

But head is best!

First, Nashville.. I never quoted you on 'completely destroy'.

I personally think you and Prok and anyone else who thinks freebies are bad and doing damage (directly or indirectly) to the economy are worrying far too greatly about it.

I started giving out those freebies a loooooong time ago - yet, there are plenty of alpine cabins and lighthouses and gazebos for sale. It certianly doesn't seem to have stopped any innovation or creativity or, more importantly, the market for those items.

So, again I say.. show me some examples. Support your assertions by providing evidence that an industry has been harmed by freebies or that the demand has been reduced.

I know that. But I'm looking at somebody else's object -- I'm looking at their menu. On their menu, it says YOU CANNOT MODIFY THIS OBJECT for that Siggy prefab. I realize I have to own it. But if I'm looking at someone else's object, it's going to say that too? Ok, you must be saying that it does work that way.

But then...how come nobody ever modifies it?

Yes drop me the freebie and I will send you the $250.

*I* released them with modify - *I* made them so people could change them this gives anyone the ability to change them - even to CHANGE THE PERMISSIONS if they see fit - even redistibute it with changed permissions - it's entirely up to them. I am not accountable for what they do - or for what they re-distribute.. If they got one from someone else who changed perms - or if they choose not to change them - then thats their own business.

If you can't modify them then Mash's greenhouse near where GOM Financial now stands, his sauna room (which he sells), one of the Fairchang showrooms in the city, the TV house that stood by the volcano in davenport, to name a few - could not have existed - this is simply irrefutable fact. These things are derivative works of those items - many are probably still in world - don't take my word for it, go see with your own eyes.

In using me as the 'centerpeice of your cranky theory' you were destined to fail - I was one of the people who DID release things with all permissions - and now your own arguing is showing the biggest drawback into doing so.. In short you are defeating your own argument.

Which leaves us with only one point - you don't like them... Big deal - thats a subjective opinion and you're welcome to it. Personally I find 'The Cat in the Hat' a little dry, but the many people that learned to read with little tome proves it served it's purpose.

BTW - it was Juro that offered you a freebie for 250, the only thing you'll get dropped from me is probably an exploding cow.

Geez, that's a tendentious and false quote Daisy. LOL There's no such quote and I didn't say there is an anti-business conspiracy here.

I said there is an anti-business climate.

It is produced by deliberate policies by Lindens and residents.
It is also produced by unconscious or not-thought-through policies and unintended side-effects to actions by Lindens and residents.

Let's sort out the difference, and see if I have a point.

Is that going to be typical of the rest of your remarks as you invade this thread with your baggage from another thread where you lost the argument? Let's see if you can come up with real experience and good arguments to refute what I've said, instead of playing word games.

OK, I am wrong. If you houses are on modify, then these people have somehow put them around with no-modify. Since you are listed as the creator. I thought that was your option checking. SO sorry.

And what about the free items that new players get that motivate them to stay in the game, tier up and become consumers?

Thank you Ingrid! I was going to make that exact point myself.
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People who get all "econ 101" about SL probably won't do very well because they fail to take into account that consumer psychology in SL is quite different than in the real world economy for a whole host of reasons, biggest among them being that we're not dealing with issues of supply and demand. Supply is infinite (with the exception of land) and demand isn't driven by need.
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Wrong.
The supply of base and a few derived prims, is (not exactly) infinite. Things made from them are not. Those things are an investment in time, that must cost a great deal individually, or a relatively small amount in numbers. If you had the expertise, and the creativity, to write a AAA computer game, all by yourself, would the year or more of your effort be worth a grand total of USD50, just because folks could copy your program at will, for the cost of a CD?



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There are probably more free clothes in SL than any other type of item, and yet the clothing business continues to be one of (if not the) most lucrative areas of the economy. It's also an area of the economy where competitors encourage and help each other and go out of their way to promote new entrants into the market.
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That may be. I have three objections to that:

1. I wasn't limiting my point to clothes.

2. Clothes are an exception, in that they are very difficult to match to any given avatar.

3. I just got a fairly vehement rejection tirade from someone who had expressed offense at (him)self not being allowed to work with someone else, claiming that he would find someone else to work with. I offered. I was mindlessly rejected (which I accept with good grace, hehe).



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Here's another interesting fact about SL... given two products of equal value, the one that's priced higher will probably sell more.
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That's not just SL, that's FL. The phenomenon is known as "perceived value". I did not use the concept of perceived value in my argument. I used the concept of "utility", which is different.

Here's another interesting fact about SL... given two products of equal value, the one that's priced higher will probably sell more.

May be time for a proposal...
Maybe along these lines:
Items can be released into the public domain - they will have COPY MOD AND TRANSFER spread across all prims/scripts/etc in the object and the creator name will be changed to PUBLIC.
No more confusion - no more worries about 'feteing' - everyones happy.