White Cube of Death in the New World

We do, Prokofy, that's the whole point. There are few interesting or serious issues here on the forums where we don't have to endure your overwhelming rhetorical constructions, all of them designed like huge, flashing, neon-colored cubes, all of them screaming "look at me! Look at me!"

Don't have to read them? You don't have to look at your white cubes of death, but you do because they're practically unavoidable, right?

Sometimes you make interesting points. Sometimes you have something serious to say. But we have to parse through all the my-world, paranoid, self-pitying, "champion of the down-trodden" rhetoric to get anywhere with it.

Say what you want to say. But try a different approach. And don't try to snow us with the "champion" crap. You're fooling yourself, but few others.

The question about harassment was already answered by myself and the client: he was told not to do business with me, he was told I was a scam artist, and he also told this to at least one other neighbour and who knows who else?

This is malicious destruction of my business due to personal baggage. I never comment on people's builds in-world unless they utterly block actual physical access to other properties, lag the sim down to 37, or have annoying spinning and light features designed to extort sales. Now, I have to add a forth reason: when the builders attempt to destroy my little rentals business as part of a personal vendetta and general hatred and venom.

Um, look, buddy. I'm paying for my land TOO. And I had acquired two parcels there and was about to acquire three for a total of 1536 for a simple, ordinary rentals home on the seashore. I realize my buildings and my business don't hold a candle to your mega FIC business and your self-important boutique architects, but I have a right to exist. People discussed this building as a hulk, overshadowing their little Tiki huts. Look at the picture! Well, goodbye Tiki. I don't know why I thought "Tiki" might have some traction in the New World when I saw the Lindens built Tiki. I love the architect of that house and hoped to put down more of his works since others had already done so. But I guess it was silly to expect there'd be any room for Tiki on this continent, that the overweening eminent domain of the FIC'd mega-builders has to prevail everwhere with their White Cubes of Death and Black Boxes of Doom?

Yes, I do see myself as a crusader on behalf of the little guy. In fact, as with most crusaders, the little guys hate me too. But I am fighting for the right for someone with only 1536, or 512 meters, to feel as safe and secure in their purchase and their land rights as someone who spent hundreds of dollars on the auction. And I am fighting for open public discussion of the dreadful, insensitive, inconsiderate decisions builders make

And I am fighting what appears to be a really fascistic guild -- so aptly stated! -- of uber-builders who think it is their God-given right to spawn their towers everywhere like Randian Roarkes.

How does this relate to me? Traxx is his own entity.

I may do what i wish with my land, and you may do what you want to with your land,
And if you have a problem with it you tell the person, not make it some self-important major news issue and drag 200 other people into it.

It is out LINDEN given right to build what we wish as long as it does not encroach upon their terms of service / community standards.

I fully support Traxx, but Traxx is not me, so don’t relate him with Nexcom.

Tell me what Nexcom did wrong?

just a few words...... nice build Traxx, very well thought out and constructed

Is there a way of teleporting Prokofy's excessive verbiage and paranoiac hysteria to the cornfield? Good fertilizer. Corn as high as an elephant's eye.

Leaving the substance of his points in his posts, of course, some of which are interesting, and all of which he has every right to make.

Traxx is a fair honest person, and he has my up most trust in this matter.
For him to bring such accusations upon you would mean that you must have done something.

Traxx is using his perch as a megabuilder uberarchitect in the new world paid by you to harass me and my clients, to pressure me and destroy my business, and to put words in the mouths of newbs, and stir them up and claim then that I have scammed them. I've now done due diligence to interview them all, and I'm shocked that in fact they were all approach and all told never to do business with me, warned of a scam, and told to sell for higher prices. I didn't realize this vendetta had reached such epic proportions, and I will now have to ask the Lindens to examine it because it is profound harassment.

You are paying for someone who is using their position to harass me and destroy my business. You may feel no relationship to this and care not at all and say it doesn't matter in a year, but I view it differently.

Your company and you are sponsoring a hulking white building in a new waterfront PG sim. It's hard to understand why you are taking about waterfront to accomplish this mission, given your wealth and your height, could be accomplished by being in the center of the sim and not so close to water that is coveted residential real estate.

So my business is being destroyed in two ways: a) by personal slander by a person on your payroll attempting to destroy me for personal reasons and b) your building, which is making newbies scatter from the area because they see that their Tiki dream is demolished, so now I have to sell out my land too (to you, no doubt, or your ubermegabuilding competitors), because I can't rent under a skyscraper shadow. I can try...possibly to some smaller store, but I make it a point never to encourage building over two-storeys and indeed ban it in my communities precisely because of the view issue.

So, my little business is destroyed, and your mega business with your fancy-schmancy feted cell phones and your big-ass builds prevails. That's ok. Sure, I'm all for personal freedom. It's not the end of the world. But when my personal reputation is slandered as a liar, cheater, and scammer, by God, I stand up and fight like you have never seen me fight. No one is ever going to do that to me unfairly and get away with it.

But...let the Lindens examine a few issues here. Which person spends more money on this game and pays more tier? Which person helps more individuals in the game acquire free or very inexpensive access to land which enables them to save for bigger purchases? Which person empowers individuals to work in groups and help sims look better, and prevent the war between skyscraper and Tiki? Which person is actually appreciated more by the neighbours at the day?

Traxx is using his perch as a megabuilder uberarchitect in the new world paid by you to harass me and my clients, to pressure me and destroy my business, and to put words in the mouths of newbs, and stir them up and claim then that I have scammed them. I've now done due diligence to interview them all, and I'm shocked that in fact they were all approached unilaterally by him and all told never to do business with me, warned of a scam, and told to sell for higher prices. I didn't realize this vendetta had reached such epic proportions, and I will now have to ask the Lindens to examine it because it is profound harassment.

You are paying for someone who is using their position to harass me and destroy my business. You may feel no relationship to this and care not at all and say it doesn't matter in a year, but I view it differently.

Your company and you are sponsoring a hulking white building in a new waterfront PG sim. It's hard to understand why you are taking about waterfront to accomplish this mission, given your wealth and your height, could be accomplished by being in the center of the sim and not so close to water that is coveted residential real estate.

So my business is being destroyed in two ways: a) by personal slander by a person on your payroll attempting to destroy me for personal reasons and b) your building, which is making newbies scatter from the area because they see that their Tiki dream is demolished, so now I have to sell out my land too (to you, no doubt, or your ubermegabuilding competitors), because I can't rent under a skyscraper shadow. I can try...possibly to some smaller store, but I make it a point never to encourage building over two-storeys and indeed ban it in my communities precisely because of the view issue.

So, my little business is destroyed, and your mega business with your fancy-schmancy feted cell phones and your big-ass builds prevails. That's ok. Sure, I'm all for personal freedom. It's not the end of the world. But when my personal reputation is slandered as a liar, cheater, and scammer, by God, I stand up and fight like you have never seen me fight. No one is ever going to do that to me unfairly and get away with it.

But...let the Lindens examine a few issues here. Which person spends more money on this game and pays more tier? Which person helps more individuals in the game acquire free or very inexpensive access to land which enables them to save for bigger purchases? Which person empowers individuals to work in groups and help sims look better, and prevent the war between skyscraper and Tiki? Which person is actually appreciated more by the neighbours at the day? Which person in fact takes a back seat to good buildings in the world, and has no visible presence in the world, except many happy customers who got to access Second Life for a lesser expense than they would have if they bought the equivalent land themselves, and paid the tier on it?

Which person has a messianic complex? Which person believes himself to be self-entitled? Which person cannot exist in Second Life without throwing up unnecessary controversy, when his view could have been expressed in a far less destructive and self-dramatizing way?

Let's have the Lindens examine another issue. At what point does the sanctimonious paranoiac delusions and the hysterical, demigogic manipulations of a self-proclaimed champion of the oppressed constitute harrassment and interference with the community's ability to follow their own lights and enjoy the game, in the forums and inworld?

what

I'd chalk this thread up to Prokofy desperately needing some fresh air, sunshine and to reconnect with his old nemesis named "reality".

I'd chalk this thread up to Traxx spending too many all-nighters on picky build products, and obsessing about too many feverish imagined slights and fake attacks and malicious plots. There is no malice on display here except his own, toward me, for personal baggage reasons, which caused him unilaterally, without prompting, to go to newbies surrounding his building construction site, and tell them not to do businesss with me, that I was a scammer and a con artist and pressuring them, and all these other ridiculous stereotypes -- which, BTW, are part of the usual provincial stereotypes regarding "huckster" real estate agents and "sharks". It has to do with an allergy toward commerce. It is unseemly. I run an open-book business.

I challenge the Lindens to read every single chat history and every notecard in my account and my alts' accounts, and I urge them to infiltrate my business with sting operations, and I urge them to take testimony from every single customer. I am absolutely confident that they will not find a thing on me.

When people harm my business and my reputation, I fight back. This idea that you can't expose someone using combinations of emotional and financial blackmail on you in a game to extract whatever weird pleasure they need to extract, that it is called a "personal attack" is one of the big flaws of SL and indeed any game. There must be means of resolving personal and business disputes of this kind.

I really wanted to sit this one out. It is hard to deal with the words Prok writes when his light is shined on you in the forum. I didn't want to be at the receiving end once again of his "wraith". I was telling this to some real life friends and they were shocked. In RL I confront inconsistencies head on and they were surprised that I didn't carry my RL "attitude" into SL. So I decided to go ahead and ask the question that has been troubling me since this thread started.

What is the difference between this tower and the building in Pimushe? I happen to like this tower, it was well planned and has amzing details. It is also nice and airy and can be seen through. But the bottom line is that if one person can build a big white building on their land and it is defended, why can't everyone do it?

LF,

Who made you defender of the rights of people to build anything they want? Perhaps you should get over yourself?

Why is everyone so afraid of ideas and the debate of them?

Prokofy, as you well know, I have talked to both you and Traxx a lot, over the past half year or so. Traxx is definitely not an "uberarchitect" trying to destroy everything you have built, or to "rob you of your customers" or anything like that, and I'm pretty sure you know that as well.

He's just being one of the focus of your own anger because things are not going well with you - but I'd say, he's just a "victim" of that focused anger, and nothing more. Traxx simply doesn't have the time to "stalk" all your customers and talk to them - even assuming, for the sake of argument, that he would do such a thing. Unlike yourself, Traxx does his work mostly for fun, and not really for the L$ he earns doing it. It's a question of attitude - he's not into it, no matter how much "proof" you may have to the contrary. More likely, we're discussing over misinterpretations of certain wordings. That's much more likely...

Now, unlike many others, I have always defended you publicly, Prokofy - you know that as well. I did business with you in the past, I still rent land from you (and will continue to do that and probably even expand...), and you're my first choice for pointing out prospective customers for renting/owning land (while I certainly admit that Anshe is not a far second choice ). And I'll continue to do that, because I also know that these "furious & angry" days you sometimes have usually pass away, and you return to your usually more calmer and friendly self.

If you remember, we also had a strong argument in-world about some other resident (who was your focus of anger at that time). We managed to agree to disagree but letting the matter drop was the best we could do at that time. I also think that the same applies to this case as well.

Yes, someone (or a group of someones) bothered you a lot in SL - again. Unfortunately, that seems to happen all the time. I think it's the effect of having to live up to a reputation of actually trying to do something worthwhile in SL - meaning your own projects - which, for many, are "against" the anarchistic and chaotic nature of SL. Naturally, this means that some people will resist change - no matter how silly that may sound. People are still not understanding that SL will slowly change to a more organised community, and that some residents are already willing to invest in renting/owning land in communities with some rules - some of them oriented towards a lovely landscape and a drastic reduction in aesthetical unpleasing builds. In exchange for some "creative freedom", you get more beautiful places to live in. These places also have a slightly higher land value - for those that appreciate lag-free zones and beautiful landscapes.

For some anarchists, this sounds like "conning" - charging over market value for something that is only important to a few. However, as said, this is "resisting change". Every day, we get 50-100 new residents. The number of those who prefer living in a more beautiful place by abiding to a few rules is going to increase - not decrease. Failing to appreciate that - and resisting change - is being too close-minded about it. This is like resisting to buy a cellular phone because you don't agree it's more useful than a fixed phone. After a while, you simply can't ignore the cellular phone growth world-wide - resisting it is plain silly.

Anyway, Prokofy, what I meant with this long post, is that I, for one, am one of the few persons that fully supports your projects, and I'd even do so finantially if I had the resources IRL. I don't want you to get so angry that you simply give up all your efforts and quit . But I also hope that you understand that you're fighting a very tough battle right now - a battle against the largest part of the population which is still tied to the past and resisting change.

Strangely enough, you picked Traxx as one of the most unlikely targets. Like yourself, Traxx concentrates his efforts in building aesthetically pleasing buildings, as a way to promote beauty over "freedom of creation". Unlike yourself, Traxx is not really in the land rental/trading business, and has certainly no way to interfere with your projects. I can understand that you two do not wish to work together (which is really a waste, but ah well, such is life...) - but I also happen to think that using Traxx as a "scapegoat" (and what an unlikely one at that!) is unfair to him.

Remember the old USENET days? There was an old rule on those days. If you're going to write something when you're very, very angry... hold your breath, and only post after 24 hours. If you're still angry at that time, well, there must really be a reason fot it, and the post is justified. But almost everything is never so drastic, and you'll probably re-read your lines, and see that you weren't really being fair when you wrote it on the first place.

Anger feeds on anger, until it consumes all. It's in the nature of anger. And really, SL needs a clear-headed and cool Prokofy to continue to work towards what a selected few believe is the right direction. Forget the so-called FIC, the anarchists, the "freedom over everything" defenders. Those times are past. They may still wield some influence over the present time and community - but, as you'll see, most of them will change with SL, or disappear because they couldn't adapt.

And I would really like to see a SL where we have lots of people "copying" your ideas, Prokofy - and not only a small group like today. I hope to read this post in 2 or 3 years time and smile gently about those hectic, anger-full days. But for that, you need to keep a clear head, focus on your own goals and projects, and go ahead.

"Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate". That saying, unfortunately, is also pretty true in SL...

She recommended you get some air, Yet you accuse her of attcking you, by attacking her with sexist and persistent rhetoric.

You post on a daily basis about your being victimized, yet you make victims of anyone that disagrees with you. Yout threads about builds frankly are idiotic and old. Nobody has the sightest bit of sympathy for you Prok, because you you look for any frivolous reason to come to the threads and build an ugly tower of contempt.

LOOKIT ME LOOKIT ME IM A VICTIM OMG OMG ALL OF YOU ARE ASSHOLES FOR NOT PITYING ME!

Prok, you are what's ugly here, not someone's right to build.

I will leave the space below for your next idiotic reply.

The ToS pretty much solidly defends the concept of property owners' rights. Unlike prok, I'm not standing up on a wobbly soapbox with nothing keeping me afloat.



This debate goes on and on and on.

Poster: "OMFG HAX BUILDZ NEXT DOOR!!!111oneone SOMETHING MUST BE DONE"

Community: "One man's ugly build is another person's home"

Poster: "OMFG OFMG OMFG I DEMAND ACTION"

Community: "We're not telling you what to do with your land, so stop telling your neighbors what to do with theirs"

Poster: "OMFG HAX"

and so on.

People bitch about ugly buildings next door, but then immediately turn around and refuse any sort of player-run government-type organizations, the very orgs that might have some very small teeth in the matter.

You can't have it both ways, folks.

LF

I agree, we need more zoning tools. This is really the heart of the matter.

I also think you'll find that Prok is all in favor of this. Or, at least he should be..

Way to go, you've alienated another random passerby in your vitriolic attempt to "get even" at "The FIC".

Better sign in as another alt and post some agreement postings quick...

LF

and...




I can't imagine that the Lindens will give you the special treatment you say you're entitled to in the first quote, when you insist on making statements like the one in second quote.

You're a tragedy, Prokofy. You have ideas that the community needs to debate, and a defensible-if-controversial point of view. But you're like a guy who waves a stick at imaginary enemies, jabs himself in the eye over and over, and each time screams: "See? I told you! They're here and they're trying to kill me!"

How can anyone take you seriously?

Lack of talent.

Oh, I take him completely seriously.

I think we're all just afraid of people expressing themselves.

I would like to take him seriously. I sense a mind underneath all that vitriol and hysteria. However, I think you're wrong. It's not fear of expression, it's distaste over the clean-up that has to occur every time he explodes all over an issue.

chad Statosky, congratulations. You are currently winning this thread with a PokeProk score of 23:1 thanks to your remark about the two parcels.

Ingrid, as usual, is a skillful player, but couldn't match the fury-inducing provocation that chad so elegantly deployed.

Clean up?

This is a forum. If anything, we need to clean up the lack of debate and discussion of important ideas.