Should LL ban Pixel Sex? , Forum Poll Voters Opinion

Thats the best reason I have heard so far, keeping real life family bonds strong!

I made this poll becuase the data in the other Poll was useless. It was being used to read things into peoples votes that were not there, by yourself and others.

Dont blame me becuase you editorialized your poll, which contained data of debatable value.

You said people's actions mattered more than their opinions and that the majority dont want sex in SL.

Well .. I asked the actual Question. Simple as that.



Making a poll to get actual clear data on the topic - where your poll you and others were editorializing the results of ambigious data - isnt small. Its just clarification. Unsubstantiated claims were made on unclear data from the poll you designed.

You are right that wasnt the question in the other poll - However you and others were incorrectly Inferring that the majority was fine with banning sex based on the data in your POLL.

Therefore the question was begging to be asked - to refute your skewing your own results to support your opionions.



I find it interesting, even if you dont that supposedly the majority, according to you, doesnt engage in Pixel sex, however, apherently very few want to see it banned.




Some outragous claims made in the other thread:



Basically claiming if people dont engage in Pixel sex they feel its offensive. Pure Speculation, based on nothing.



You poll data never supported this claim. And your poll never asked what peopels feelings were, just how often (in vague terms) they had pixel sex.



This assertion was never supported by any data in your Poll - it was pure speculation , unless you are somehow psychic.



Again this statement was made based on speculation of data that didnt support it. When I asked DIRECTLY Peoples opinion about banning pixel sex, it completely disagrees with your claim.



Complete unsupported by availble data from your poll or any other poll - its just editorializing using bad data to try to bolster your opinion.



Your results never showed anything of the sort. You decided they did. There is evidence to refute your interpretation of the results.

Additionally You state SL is going , however its quite possible a large majority dont think it should be banned. Certainly a majority of Forums Poll Voters dont think it should be banned.

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To sum up - you made a Poll , Asked one thing , gave response choices on another thing, then made up the definitions on those responses after the fact.

You claim it was unintentional - but the end result is you skewed your poll data to support your editorial opinion.

I felt that needed refuting.

Thus this poll.

wrong again Jason. it's really very simple.

1) YOU presented a piece of information as fact. Not theory or speculation. FACT.
2) I did not.

I just asked you to tell me where you obtained this knowledge.

are you now saying your fact wasn't a fact at all, but speculation?

if so, you should probably say so, instead of resorting to diversion.

Hey I don't know where you're hanging out, but you're making it sound like SL is just one giant f*ck fest... I can explore for HOURS without seeing avatars doing the nasty. I see adverts every now and then (we do in RL too!) but on the whole, I'd say that SL is basically pretty easy going. If you want sex here, you have to look for it.

If you agree with the type of sex your neighbor is having or not, The appeal of Second Life to me and many others is the fact that we have so much freedom because its an adult game. When you slowly start taking away all of our rights, It's not good for any of us. If this keeps up we will end up with The Sims Online.

http://pc.gamezone.com/news/06_21_03_12_57AM.htm
from 2003 an interview with
Cory Ondrejka, Vice President of Product Development

Are any romantic themes promoted in Second Life? Can players date others within the game, and eventually get married?


CO: While we've promoted bringing people together for amicable interaction in Second Life, we have stayed away from making it seem like a dating service. To be consistent with Second Life's open-ended experience, we wanted to leave it up to residents to choose how and with whom they socialize


**LEAVE IT UP TO RESIDENTS** what happened to that?

Oh I disagree. I think LL wanted a "Sexapade Universe" Why? Because Sex Sells?
Do you really think Philip Rosedale was looking at his monitor and saying OMG these people are spending millions in game on sex! Buying land to build sex clubs, Buying Lindens to purchase sex toys and sexual services. I am sure Philip has been crying all the way to the bank.

Now Philip pleads mea culpa and throws down the law after exploiting the whole sex thing to build Second Life. I don't buy it. I may of been born at night but it wasn't last night.

Rox

Sell Nothing Day June 23

but to someone that may be having what is normal sex to them may be to violent to someone else that is the main issue i see

because i wear a collar and CHOSE to wear a collar and be treated as a slave by my master is no one elses business we do nothing in public other than maybe what we call eachother but because someone might find it offensive we could be banned we are both consenting adults and i feel sl is going way overboard , do the age verification thing and let us adults be adults

Never once did I say anything about thinking it should be banned. As a matter of fact I spoke my stance on SL sex and you read it, you are clearing inserting your own words in my name to substanciate your editorial

Again you say im supporting my opinion eluding I think sex in SL should be banned when infact I beleive jsut the opposite. Again using your words in my name to support your editorial

I never said anything about offensive. Again using your own words in my name to supprt your editorial


Even if i did, and thats your opinion, who made you judge. jury and executioner responsible for carrying out your verdict on me?

Sadly you numerously used your own words in my name on many areas, what would the purpose be?

You are the one making the claim, it is up to you to prove your words true.

I so agree Roxie nailed it right on the head there.

Sorry Chris, I wont entertain it, I have read thousands of articles on Philip Rosedale and Second Life, only a OC would save every little link for proving statements at later times, if you or anyone else would read just a fractions of the interviews you wouldnt be demanding me to prove my statement, maybe you should read a little more and understand a little more about the company


To say that LL created SL to be a virtual sexcapade universe is just perposterous and if you think not, then I sugesst you post a new thread making that statement and see what responses you get lol

Applauds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Every one who thinks that it should not be banned should call LL this week have just a masive amount of calls, would be kinda curious to see how that would turn out

No, I very clearly here and in the other thread pointed to where you said the things I objected to.

Im not judging anything - Im simply stating my opinion of what you did, backed up with reasonable expectations.

I DO personally find it interesting how this poll differs from yours. I make no claims it speaks for the SL residents who are not forum Poll voters. I make no inferences as to the motivations behind their votes.

I simply can let the data speak for itself.

I never voiced an opinion one way or the other on the motives of Mr. Rosedale. I am just a dumb country boy. But where I come from, we have a simple saying "Put up or shut up". If you can't or (in your case) won't back up what you say, then you have no credibility.

Im growing tired of defending myself, no wonder Linden Labs has shut down nearly all forums of communication. Because of this mentallity of debate and argument. then the very same posters that debate every little thing said, are the very ones that are so vocal about LL sghutting down differnt forum sections.


Im not asking for your approval, since your approval means absolutely nothing to me nor does your opinion, or your petty squabbling. nough said?

Now this is interesting.

Is it possible SL wants to clean up now that its famous?

And bury the whole sexploitation thing under the virtual rug.

OK then, prove it? post the links to the messages wher you said I said all those things you accused me of saying, I know you can't cause I never said those things. I would think that you have some explaining to do now

She already did. Read back.

Sorry Sarah, I usually agree with everything you say. But, LL has garanteed no one these "rights" and this is I think where the problem is

She proved nothing other than proving she put her words in my name to support her editorial, take the time to read the other thread yourself and see if I said anything about banning sex in SL or that I support banning, shes completely off her rocker in a vengeful attack on me claiming I said this and I said that, when in fact she cannot post one single direct link to support those claims

Theres nothing there supporting her claim that I support the banning of sex in SL. as a matter of fact here is the link to this very forum I voted in no on the topic of

Should LL ban Pixel Sex? , Forum Poll Voters Opinion

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Nothing more evil than putting your own words in someone elses name to try and make them look bad, shame on you, and I do hope the thread gets lock, Shame Shame Shame

Oh and here is my posted stance on Sex in SL just so theres no doubts
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I don't beleive for a mintue as I'm sure do the majority here that colette edited your post. Shame on you.