Should LL ban Pixel Sex? , Forum Poll Voters Opinion
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Walker Moore
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06-03-2007 11:45
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Big differences here is that you chose to watch the movie, or to find pictures in a library, if you where driving down the road and happened upon a billboard in the public that would be quite a different situation. which is what the case is here in SL and i did address that issue of choice Jackson but you snipped it. i also believe it is against the TOS to openly display explicit content even in a mature sim (correct me if I'm wrong) so if the grid was being policed properly already that content wouldn't have been there. or should certainly have been taken down shortly after your AR. forgive my delusions about speedy responses to ARs.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-03-2007 11:47
From: leliel Mirihi and you chose to go in to mature sims but expect to only see pg content. Mature sim doesnt mean you can post any image you care to, images of violence and other disturbing subject matter is forbid under Community standards
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-03-2007 11:49
From: Walker Moore and i did address that issue of choice Jackson but you snipped it.
i also believe it is against the TOS to openly display explicit content even in a mature sim (correct me if I'm wrong) so if the grid was being policed properly already that content wouldn't have been there. or should certainly have been taken down shortly after your AR. forgive my delusions about speedy responses to ARs. Sorry I didnt mean to snip any important info , my bad
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Walker Moore
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06-03-2007 11:51
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Mature sim doesnt mean you can post any image you care to, images of violence and other disturbing subject matter is forbid under Community standards no it's not. it is simply forbidden from being out in the open so you should have ARd it. From: someone Indecency /snip/ the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php
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Colette Meiji
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06-03-2007 11:54
yeah that points back to the obvious disconnect between what Dan Said and the actual Standards.
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AcidRaven Harrington
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06-03-2007 11:59
I guess what gets me with the post, and everyones reaction, is that as odd as sounds things are reversed of RL. Most people who end up in the situation where they are Havening sex with a child avatar, and likely the same for others like Consensual rape. Is that the people who are doing the what most have issues with, being the aggressor, are not doing it for them selves Most probably don't care they are with the person they love (I am not going to get into for sale sex that is something completely different and dose not need to be related.) There partner for what ever reason wants to act like a child, Most may think it is odd but are ok with it. They feel safe, comfortable, relaxed, and sense the person behind the keyboard is a adult wants even more of a release. So they ethire do something to make it sexual or have told there partner that they want this (what I am sure happens for the v-rape is being asked to do by the submissive, normally female avatar) So there partner out of Love, care and respect fills there wishes without havening to change from being a child to a adult. To Have to Break what was going on and change to a Adult avatar would be similar to start watching a movie and then suddenly havening it changed to the movie that was next store. Or reading a book and finding that you only have half of it before it goes and changes to something different. to a good Role Player RL/OOC dose not exist when they RP. they are there character, Like a good actor. This blog post, is a attack on them. they are being told no you can't do what is natural to you. For filling the wishes of your lover you are a pedo. You want to go out and hurt children because you lover happens to want to RP and it becomes a sexual release. I know this sounds odd to all but sometimes the most experinced but being dominate is the ultimate submission in some cases. You do anything you can do to make your partner happy. And how much more dominate can you get then you are going to do what I want willingly. It is a switch of roles. in 90+% of cases if the person in the submissive role said stop (well maybe not stop but safe words are a other topic) it would end the only questions asked being are you ok and possibly what happened that made you want to stop. I am sure no one will see that the point I am trying to make. Maybe we should be spawned a grid/ sector on the main grid that makes it so obvious where you are going with 100's of Pop ups going You are going into a adult area are you sure? and it's own advertising database that is only accessible from that area. But I do think people should be free to go between the two because I think store owners should profit from those who are considered deviant with out havening to setup shop in our area . I almost think there should be a shopping grid that even the teens could go to, or is some how co located so that teens could shop there but not be in the same physical space as adults so not needing the extra security problems. You know something like how preview is setup but updated in real time. and I don't know some massive legally binding penalties for braking the rules like no adult content. But that is an other tangent. I think there should be more people up in arms over this then there are. But then SL is so big, and the forum are so regulated we have to basically sneak things buy the mods and still get cut off at 11 pages or less. Anyone want to make a group and possibly donate some land tire to have a place where we can gather and talk with out resident moderators cutting us off? Acidraven Harrington Child Avatar Height detector 1.0.4: AcidRaven Harrington is 1.191803 m (3 feet 11 inches) tall. (counting your shoes) Yo, ho, haul together, hoist the Colors high… Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never say we die. Freedom is for Everyone. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/full-reign-of-self-expression-for-consenting-adults-in-second-life.htmlBTW anyone know why my .sig not adding to the end of my posts?
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Chris Norse
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06-03-2007 12:08
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Big differences here is that you chose to watch the movie, or to find pictures in a library, if you where driving down the road and happened upon a billboard in the public that would be quite a different situation. which is what the case is here in SL If the billboard is political speech, not much can be done about it, other than the city zoning and inspection department finding a safety issue or a license issue. So a group opposed to the war in Iraq, could rent a billboard and post pictures of dismembered bodies, and claim that it was political speech. The same would go for a Pro Life group and the aborted fetus. Not to say that either would be a good plan or would gain converts, but it would be protected speech.
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Lota Lyon
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06-03-2007 12:21
Just vote a big "NO"!
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Tegg Bode
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06-03-2007 14:41
The real answer to the debate is both polls display different information from different questions and combined give an intersting view and to some degree support each other.
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Colette Meiji
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06-03-2007 14:47
From: Tegg Bode The real answer to the debate is both polls display different information from different questions and combined give an intersting view and to some degree support each other. Mainly in the sense that probably a lot of people that do not have Pixel sex did not vote that LL should ban it. Which of course should have been expected, since you see such posts several times a week. "I dont do cyber in SL , but I think people should be allowed to do .. "
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Abrah Sullivan
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06-04-2007 17:06
From: VooDoo Bamboo The same could be said for you.. If you can't handle rules that the Lindens set then get out of here. This guy is an idiot -- Get a clue and keep your narrow-minded, biased, uber-conservative ideas out of our free-flowing Second Life. This is a place were you can do that which you couldn't in real life. Don't cramp my style and I won't cramp yours, tool. From: VooDoo Bamboo And why did the media jump on it? Because Second Life was turning a blind eye and all the sick minded people was using SL for a sexually twisted playground so of course the media jumped on it as so they should. A sexually twisted playground? Le'gasp. Some crusader you are "VoodDoo", especially since in your SecondLife profile you advertise Midian City, and quote, "Urban roleplay in realistic city featuring: forced fantasy fetish goth vampire gangs chase capture clubs strippers Sex BDSM". So what exactly qualifies as "sexually twisted" if not "forced sex" -- ps: We call that rape in California. Throwing rocks in a glasshouse is a bad idea -- hypocrite -- just like the rest of your kind.
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Angelique LaFollette
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06-04-2007 21:34
From: Colette Meiji funny - why is this poll funny?
small - why is this poll small? . Is it Polite to refer to someones poll as Small and funny? This pole is laser accurate, and Hits the Issue squarely at it's centre. The Majority of people do NOT want to see Sex Banned in an adult venue. Now, some Moralists will ask "Does 93%+/- Accurately guage the Feelings of the majority?" Of course they Like asking questions like this because they don't like it when people cloud the issue with facts. Let the poll continue, I think this Trend will be Born out as More people respond. Sex is actually completely acceptable to the majority of Adults in SL. Angel.
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Ace Albion
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06-05-2007 03:26
I don't play with guns in combat sims, but if someone took that to mean I was against people shooting each other for fun in SL, I'd slap their legs for their cheek and stupidity.
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Annie Malaprop
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06-05-2007 19:31
Anyone else find it interesting that this poll/thread is still active, while the one I opened this afternoon (about whether people want LL/SL to be sold) was closed very quickly (for being "off-topic"  ? Typical. BTW, for anyone interested, I moved my poll over to the SLex general forum. I really am interested in what people think about this. And no, I'm not angry that my thread was closed - just amused at the inconsistencies. I'm sure we can expect the same treatment when it comes to AR enforcement. I apologize in advance to Colette if I've doomed this thread with this comment.
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mcgeeb Gupte
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06-05-2007 19:50
Ok who are the 21 people that said yes?
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FireFox Bancroft
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06-05-2007 20:01
From: Tegg Bode Oh yes they can, Try typing the word penis, bosum, or even Jesus in WoW or CoH chat, it just gets "****"ed out. Wrong you can turn off the profanity filter in CoH.  And by the way I voted no. SL was intended for adults and adults only, having sexualy explicit content is pretty normal in an adults only program. If SL were a retail game it would have the ESRB label of AO. And Wal-Mart plus several other retail outlets wouldn't carry it.
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Colette Meiji
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06-05-2007 20:05
From: mcgeeb Gupte Ok who are the 21 people that said yes? There are at least 4 regular posters on the forums who think Sex being removed from Second Life would improve it. Of those there are at least two I figure who'd want it banned. They are entitled to their opinion. Its only a problem if someone uses disinformation in an attempt to sway policy. I dont think naming names would be appropriate.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-05-2007 20:14
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06-05-2007 21:53
From: FireFox Bancroft Wrong you can turn off the profanity filter in CoH.  And by the way I voted no. SL was intended for adults and adults only, having sexualy explicit content is pretty normal in an adults only program. If SL were a retail game it would have the ESRB label of AO. And Wal-Mart plus several other retail outlets wouldn't carry it. They don't have to give you that option 
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06-05-2007 22:03
From: Chris Norse The honorable gentleman from the great Commonwealth of Kentucky, home to beautiful horses and fast women casts his ballot for No. My Mother's side of the family is from Kentucky *smiles*
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Cherry Czervik
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06-06-2007 00:17
Yeah right. Like people won't just cyber anyway ... who cares!
/me casts a spell far greater in words than my little avatar can inspire sitting on a poseball called 'Get Humped' ...
Actually I wish they'd ban poseballs called things like 'Get Humped' Oh PLEASE ... so appealling (not).
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06-06-2007 05:12
From: Colette Meiji There are at least 4 regular posters on the forums who think Sex being removed from Second Life would improve it.
Of those there are at least two I figure who'd want it banned.
They are entitled to their opinion. Its only a problem if someone uses disinformation in an attempt to sway policy.
I dont think naming names would be appropriate. No need to name names. I just find it surprising some people think this way. I basically compare sex on SL as the same as two people wanting to do sex in real life. If they want to do it and they are over 18 they should be entitled to it as long as LL allows it since it is their servers. I don't see removing "adult" or even Mature from SL as an improvement either. It's probably a fact that there would be a huge exedous (sp?) if SL went Toon Town.
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06-06-2007 06:53
From: mcgeeb Gupte No need to name names. I just find it surprising some people think this way. I basically compare sex on SL as the same as two people wanting to do sex in real life. If they want to do it and they are over 18 they should be entitled to it as long as LL allows it since it is their servers.
There are people who don't want you having sex in RL so it doesn't surprise me much.
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Colette Meiji
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06-06-2007 06:56
From: Brenda Connolly There are people who don't want you having sex in RL so it doesn't surprise me much. Sadly true Hmm that reminds me of an inappropriate Historical reference.
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06-06-2007 06:59
From: Danni Moanalo No think they should protect kids ,then stay the *#@% out of my business, if I want to be tied to a dead alligator on a bus and pleasured with a lighted christmas tree anally thats my personal business as a consenting adult.. Wow, you to? --- I voted no.
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