Heh, don't worry. I am.
Which is what I'm going on and on about.
Which is what I'm going on and on about.
Yet you are not registered in any identifiable way, so everything you've been raving about has been hypothetical.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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05-14-2005 15:37
Heh, don't worry. I am. Which is what I'm going on and on about. Yet you are not registered in any identifiable way, so everything you've been raving about has been hypothetical. _____________________
Cristiano
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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05-14-2005 15:38
Yes, and your technical understanding of the issue is far from complete. Any particular hookup can have any number of different configurations. It could be static and could be changed constantly, it could be dynamic and rarely change. My point is, you can change it. If you're as worried as you claim to be, you would change it. I was just informed there is no member of SLU named "blaze" or "blaze Spinnaker". So now we know that you aim is to libel Cris and spread rumors. Sickening. Go to hell, and welcome back to ignore, your game playing is disgusting and you should be ashamed. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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05-14-2005 15:41
Ahhh, sorry, Nolan .. somewhere above you mentioned that a cable modem automatically changes. This is not the case.
Yes, I can change it. And regularly do. However, it's an immense hassle as it takes out my whole home network, which I have over 5 computers hooked up to and all persistent network connections are destroyed. |
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
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05-14-2005 15:42
I am not raving and while most things I like to discuss are hypothetical, this one is not.
And, in the end, I'm afraid it was Cristiano who wished to his make his forums a subject of this thread. Not I or Prokofy. Read the thread and you'll see that this is the case. |
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Prokofy Neva
Virtualtor
Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-14-2005 15:46
Paranoid Personality Disorder Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and a constant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. People with this disorder tend to have excessive trust in their own knowledge and abilities and usually avoid close relationships with others. They search for hidden meanings in everything and read hostile intentions into the actions of others. They are quick to challenge the loyalties of friends and loved ones and often appear cold and distant to others. They usually shift blame to others and tend to carry long grudges. I think that's a pretty good description of the 12-48 people in a small tekkie-wiki type minority who think my general criticism of their attitudes and patterns of behaviour is some kind of attack -- they feel a terrible pressure on their way of life by my innocent questioning, I guess, and they get awfully paranoid. I feel for them. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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05-14-2005 15:46
I am not raving and while most things I like to discuss are hypothetical, this one is not. And, in the end, I'm afraid it was Cristiano who wished to his forums a subject of this thread. Not I or Prokofy. Read the thread and you'll see that this is the case. Blaze, I stated I had Prokofy's IP address, that there was no TOS violation in this. Prokofy made the libelous statement that I used his IP address to find his place of business and home. You then started making all the implications about outing alts, and how shocked you were that you had to rush right out to and release your IP address for fear of being found out. You are not even registered as you, and i have no clue who your other alts are, nor do I care. Even if I did know that your alt was a registered member of my site, you under this name are not, so I could not make a connection anyway. This was completely hypothetical, and you are full of shit, honestly. My god, this is like the fucking Twilight Zone. _____________________
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 15:48
I think that's a pretty good description of the 12-48 people in a small tekkie-wiki type minority who think my general criticism of their attitudes and patterns of behaviour is some kind of attack -- they feel a terrible pressure on their way of life by my innocent questioning, I guess, and they get awfully paranoid. I feel for them. I feel for those who are oblivious to the utter contempt which their every post elicits. I feel for those who define their pathetic existences by constantly antagonizing others. |
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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05-14-2005 15:56
What I think is fucking amazing isn't how "fucking ignorant" people are when it isn't that they are fucking ignorant but fucking clever and fucking interested in fucking getting an answer from fucking abusive power-mongers who fucking grab your fucking IPS number and fucking refuse to tell you what the fuck they are doing with it. I'm fine with the Internet and networking. I"m not fine with people who hide behind technology to be abusive assholes. I'd like them to explain what they are doing grabbing an IPS number, especially when they posture mightily as protectors of privacy. Prok, your ignorance about how the internet works is very amusing. The entire net works on IP addresses! Every time you click a button on any website for any reason you are requesting something to be delivered to your computer. The server you're connected to sends it by your IP address. That's how the net works! If you don't want anyone to know your IP, don't use the net. Your hysteria is unwarranted (not to mention hilarious). _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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05-14-2005 15:59
Good reason never to go to this untrustworthy site, people. They capture your IPS and try to use it to hone in on your place of business or residence in RL and to "track" you around the internet. <snip> The fact that weenies have to capture it to feel power over other human beings doesn't make it right LOL. <snip> I personally can't see much harm directly coming to me from the fact that weenies feel the need to capture it, because I live in a densely packed area sufficient that they can't come kill me with it. One can hope, of course. <snip> Everyone who is using Snapzilla and posting pictures from the game needs to be aware that Cristiano grabs your IPS address. You'll have to keep trust that Cristiano will not use that to perform google and other types of witch-hunts. Reporting you for libel, personal attacks, and lies. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
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05-14-2005 16:00
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
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05-14-2005 16:00
Prok, your ignorance about how the internet works is very amusing. The entire net works on IP addresses! Every time you click a button on any website for any reason you are requesting something to be delivered to your computer. The server you're connected to sends it by your IP address. That's how the net works! If you don't want anyone to know your IP, don't use the net. Your hysteria is unwarranted (not to mention hilarious). HeShe is not listening!! How many times do I have to tell you tikiwikiati, ipati, aimeeati, moderatorati, ficati and fucktardati's??? ![]() |
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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05-14-2005 16:01
HeShe is not listening!! How many times do I have to tell you tikiwikiati, ipati, aimeeati, moderatorati, ficati and fucktardati's??? ![]() HAHA, MJ RULES! _____________________
"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."
~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media "That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline." ~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game. |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 16:07
Prok, I've tried explaining things from a "teki-wiki" point of view, while keeping to attacking your statements, and not you personally.
Your arguments are an endless train of begging the question with lack of specifics. I don't think any way I've tried to present ideas to you has worked at all. You're just simply not open to the concept that you could be wrong about certain instances. Seeing that you're now being entangled with law enforcement, I will take advice I learned while young, "Avoid people who have with problems with the law." I'm writing this to let you know that you are now going on ignore, so if I don't seem to respond, you won't have to guess why. In all seriousness, good luck with your first and second lives. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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05-14-2005 16:08
Until Pen's post, I had not noticed this part:
Everyone who is using Snapzilla and posting pictures from the game needs to be aware that Cristiano grabs your IPS address. You'll have to keep trust that Cristiano will not use that to perform google and other types of witch-hunts. Again, you lie, which doesn't surprise me. The IP addresses are captured by the forum software when you post as a registered user. IP addresses are not tracked as part of Snapzilla. You have never submitted a picture to Snapzilla, yet you make a statement about it to attempt to damage my site. From my own policy on what is saved by Snapzilla: 03/04/2005 - Update to Privacy Policy: In regards to the Snapzilla photo blogging service, the email addresses that the emails are sent from are not being viewed, recorded or stored in any way. The emails are automatically processed and then deleted. The only information saved from the emails is the snapshot, subject, message, and sender name. Additionally, the location information of the image will be stored in the future as well to allow teleporting to a location - it is not currently available. For more information, please contact [email]snapzilla@sluniverse.com[/email]. 3/27/2005 - Update to Privacy Policy A new feature has been added to Snapzilla that allows users to email snapshots to a friend. The names and email addresses the snapshots are sent to and from are not tracked or saved. The only tracking being done is a count of how many times each snapshot has been sent. 4/2/2005 - Update to Privacy Policy To support a change added to the email postcards in version 1.6 of Second Life, the location information (sim name and x/y coordinates) of each snapshot is being saved in addition to the information listed below that is saved as part of processing the email. The display of exact coordinates will be an opt out feature of Snapzilla - pictures will be filterable by sim name. _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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05-14-2005 16:12
Geez, Cristiano, that sounds like a personal insult! I haven't lied, I've asked you why you need to capture my IPS or anybody's IPS. This requires a conscious choice. Why? I've raised legitimate questions about what you do with that IPS. When someone captures your IPS, it means they can use it to track you and hone in on you. That I've explained that vulnerability and potential for abuse in your website IPS-grabbing doesn't mean I've made an accusation. I've merely asked you -- and am doing so once again -- WHAT on earth are you doing with all those IPS numbers, Cristiano? What are they FOR??? Bullshit! You didn't ask a simple "why" in your post. You made all your wild statements and accusations, then asked Cris "why" your *accusations* were true. Which they aren't. Here is your original post. I fucking dare you to claim you didn't do just exactly what I stated you did... Says who? It certainly is. There is nothing in the TOS that I can say that says "thou shalt not negrate for forum behavior." Indeed, when you go to see some nasty invector in-game, you often discover that their build and their av look is every bit as offensive as their rhetoric on the forum, and where you might have come to spend only $25, you stay to spend the total $75 Good reason never to go to this untrustworthy site, people. They capture your IPS and try to use it to hone in on your place of business or residence in RL and to "track" you around the internet. It is not on the SL profile, and as such is NOT repeat NOT fair game for revelation in the game or outside of it. The fact that weenies have to capture it to feel power over other human beings doesn't make it right LOL. I personally can't see much harm directly coming to me from the fact that weenies feel the need to capture it, because I live in a densely packed area sufficient that they can't come kill me with it. One can hope, of course. Repeat, if the information is not on the SL profile, it is not fair game to capture and use against people to harass them by searching for them in RL. Repeat, it is not fair game. I put streaming music on my land, but I don't grab everybody's IPS address to invade their privacy as I do it. It takes a conscious desire to do that Cristiano, and you, with all your vaunted statements of "privacy" on your website, need to explain why you capture IPS to use on people. Everyone who is using Snapzilla and posting pictures from the game needs to be aware that Cristiano grabs your IPS address. You'll have to keep trust that Cristiano will not use that to perform google and other types of witch-hunts. _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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05-14-2005 16:22
Lest we be confused, Snapzilla is completely anonymous (as long as you don't register) and is kick ass cool.
Well, except for the emails, I guess. In that case you'll no doubt want to switch up emaill addresses between ALT accounts if you're going to use snapzilla. Hopefully, LL is paying Cristiano big bux for that. |
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
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05-14-2005 16:24
Lest we be confused, Snapzilla is completely anonymous (as long as you don't register) and is kick ass cool. Hopefully, LL is paying Cristiano big bux for that. The only person who is spouting libel about Snapzilla is Prok. Why don't you put aside your hero worship for a minute and direct that at him? _____________________
"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."
~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media "That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline." ~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game. |
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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05-14-2005 16:25
Lest we be confused, Snapzilla is completely anonymous (as long as you don't register) and is kick ass cool. Well, except for the emails, I guess. In that case you'll no doubt want to switch up emaill addresses between ALT accounts if you're going to use snapzilla. Hopefully, LL is paying Cristiano big bux for that. Blaze, I never see the email addresses from SL - the emails are autoprocessed and deleted, as it says in the privacy statement. Linden Lab is not paying me anything for Snapzilla. _____________________
Cristiano
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Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
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05-14-2005 16:28
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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05-14-2005 16:29
Wow, thanks for quoting that Penpen. I missed it the first time around by reason of scroll wheel. Congrats you know who, I just made my first 'bad thread report'. I feel so vindicated.
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Hobonicus Engel
Uncouth Vagrant
Join date: 6 Nov 2004
Posts: 136
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05-14-2005 16:29
Everyone who is using Snapzilla and posting pictures from the game needs to be aware that Cristiano grabs your IPS address. You'll have to keep trust that Cristiano will not use that to perform google and other types of witch-hunts. Speaking from a purely technical point of view, everything on the internets will grab your IP address. It's kind of common sense, you know? If websites didn't have any idea who to send their information to, you wouldn't be able to see them, period. IP addresses are not murderous tools used to reveal identities or kill kittens. IP addresses are not some mythical part of you that represents your soul. The common man wouldn't have any fucking clue what to do with a series of numbers that could easily change at any given time. It is not as easy as you think to take an IP address and magically pull up one's address, personal info, marital status, the amount of pets they own, the kind of porn they watch, etc etc etc. IP addresses are not the tools of satan, the same way ignorance is not the answer. Now, IPS addresses, on the other hand, are pure evil incarnate, born from the milk of abaddon's teat. Avoid them at all costs. |
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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05-14-2005 16:32
One thing I will add, however, is that the avatar name is not spoofable when you submit a picture. This is for the protection of the avatar - that way I can't submit a picture and change the from name to your name.
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,434
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05-14-2005 16:35
Lest we be confused, Snapzilla is completely anonymous (as long as you don't register) and is kick ass cool. Well, except for the emails, I guess. In that case you'll no doubt want to switch up emaill addresses between ALT accounts if you're going to use snapzilla. Hopefully, LL is paying Cristiano big bux for that. Ya know Blaze, your a real peice of work. Do you even realize what it takes to make a website look and work as great as snapzilla?? Do you think Cris just waved a magic wand and made it work as well as it does?? He worked his ass off and not only that but got feedback from alot of residents in SL on what they would like to see. For you and your paranoidati friend to libel Cris in this way is the lowest and most insane things i've ever seen on these forums. I used to look at you blaze as a little brown noser paranoidati worshiper but now i can see that you are just as paranoidati as HeShe! ![]() |
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StoneSelf Karuna
His Grace
Join date: 13 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 16:38
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