Insanity

I just got this in my e-mail I use for contact from this game:




I find it totally insane, if not hilarious! Imagine someone doing such a thing!

They've really let their indignation and anger get out of control if they do stuff like that!

Imagine, someone would report your to RL authorities because of a game? And what did you do in that game? You happened by a roadstand vendor of theirs and realized it would be the perfect time to triple negrate them for their bad behaviour on the forums.

After all, there is nothing that I've written on the forums or done within the game involving this harasser that has caused me to be warned or disciplined or banned. So they have no case!

Some of the posts they've posted are in fact deleted posts, and a ready case could be made for *them* being the violators of the TOS. I don't know if they've have ever been warned or banned due to their nasty comments on the forums, but that's for the Lindens to sort out.

What I find with this sort of shenanigans is that it is a *form of harassment in and of itself*.

You can't be sure how someone used this game to get a copy of your IP address -- but it isn't something that is openly placed on the profile, so as such, it would be a violation of the TOS to obtain it.

Thus it *is* a violation of the TOS to have obtained my IP address and web links and I'll be submitting this blackmail letter to the Lindens.

I can only imagine that someone coming from another country could imagine that the FBI -- let alone the IRS lol -- could possibly care about something called "negrating" in a game, or someone's critical remarks on a game's forum. These aren't "hate crimes," and it trivializes the real nature of real hate crimes and their victims.

These harassers can be sure I'll be filing Abuse Reports on them.

Well, Prok, you're bordering on 'broadly offensive'. I guess there is a line that if you cross you kind of get censored, regardless of the validity of your ideas.

Unfortunately, I have seen people who are 5% as offensive as you get harrassed as much as you're getting harassed, so I can only assume that you are being unfairly attacked.

I don't believe I'm broadly offensive, blaze, although you've contributed to the exaggerated hysterical response to my views by hyping them in your own posts using my name.

And whatever actions that might be taken on the forums here, I do hope you'll agree that someone who takes a negrate in the game, and a robust rebuttal on the forums to the *hate crimes division of the FBI* has GOT to have a few screws loose.

Yes, there's a tough bunch here that regularly harass people and rule the roost. It's important to fight back.

The ratings system is not for rating forum behavior. Nor does behavior warrant a neg in appearance or building. To do so simply indicates an anger problem.

blaze, your post, especially the last paragraph, I don't understand. No offense intended, I just don't get it. Maybe you could clarify.

As far as contacting the FBI, et al, I doubt it took place at all, so all the rhetoric about how silly it would be to do something of that nature, is really unnecessary, unless one is looking for attention, again..

While I find this stupid, and a waste of resources. Since it is happening to Prokofy, it's just funny.


I told, you Karma is a bitch.

Prokofy,

Having your IP address is not a TOS violation - I have it myself, as you have posted in my forums. If you were on a parcel of land that had streaming music or video, your IP address was sent. Your web browser or SL client provides it, and none of that is a TOS violation.

As much as your posts drive me nuts, I can't think of anything you have ever said that would fall under any type of hate crime - that does seem very out there.

If it's a baseless report that even if something like that was actually sent the FBI would just skim over and throw out at most, then who cares.

People like to throw out threats like that to rile you up, which they seemed to have done, but nothing comes out of it. I've had like 5 people tell me how they're going to report me to the Lindens and how the Lindens are going to ban me from the game forever. Then I never heard another thing about it from anyone.

So whatever, nothing will come out of it, so don't worry about it.

Says who? It certainly is. There is nothing in the TOS that I can say that says "thou shalt not negrate for forum behavior." Indeed, when you go to see some nasty invector in-game, you often discover that their build and their av look is every bit as offensive as their rhetoric on the forum, and where you might have come to spend only $25, you stay to spend the total $75



Good reason never to go to this untrustworthy site, people. They capture your IPS and try to use it to hone in on your place of business or residence in RL and to "track" you around the internet.

It is not on the SL profile, and as such is NOT repeat NOT fair game for revelation in the game or outside of it.

The fact that weenies have to capture it to feel power over other human beings doesn't make it right LOL.

I personally can't see much harm directly coming to me from the fact that weenies feel the need to capture it, because I live in a densely packed area sufficient that they can't come kill me with it. One can hope, of course.



Repeat, if the information is not on the SL profile, it is not fair game to capture and use against people to harass them by searching for them in RL. Repeat, it is not fair game.

I put streaming music on my land, but I don't grab everybody's IPS address to invade their privacy as I do it.

It takes a conscious desire to do that Cristiano, and you, with all your vaunted statements of "privacy" on your website, need to explain why you capture IPS to use on people.

Everyone who is using Snapzilla and posting pictures from the game needs to be aware that Cristiano grabs your IPS address. You'll have to keep trust that Cristiano will not use that to perform google and other types of witch-hunts.

Yeah, the logic is not obvious.

My point being the line bordering 'broadly offensive' in these forums is set somewhere along the lines of simply saying something someone else disagrees with.

Until the term broadly offensive gets used more intelligently, I have to assume everything is unreasonable censorship.

This isn't how the the US government works. If they send it to the right people, and word it in the right way, your details go into a database.

Yes, of course, they'll skim it, and throw it out, or maybe log it somewhere in their Internet section, but who cares?



Nope, they haven't riled me up, I'm merely laughing.



Yeah, I've had the same. *Shrugs*.



I'm definitely not worried about it.

If for some ungodly reason, such an idiotic thing somehow got traction and legs, I'd just call up my own contacts in the FBI and ask them to sort it out.

Wow, you are quite a fucking liar, Prokofy. I have never tracked you, used it to hone in on your business, or anything else. What you just posted about my site is libelous. Why on earth would you post that? I didn't realize you had now reached the level of making shit up. I was just pointing out to you that your IP address known. SLExchange has it too, ANSHECHUNG.COM, or any other site that you've used.

True enough but database, trashcan, what's the difference. Both of them have stuff thrown in them and never to be seen again.

The government records ever person who buys "dangerous" books and sticks them in the database, and then never recalls that information again. Only difference between the two is that the stuff thrown in the database could be recalled but who'd want too.

Cris, I could see in your recent replies that you were being your usual "I'm going to try to understand this person" way. However, there is no way that you can understand the clinically insane individuals. Nice try tho

I don't buy it Prokofy. You're making excuses. I have personally seen you threaten many people with a triple neg for disagreeing with you on the forums. That gives no indication of their inworld appearance or building skill, it just shows a mentality not unlike "you made me mad at school today, so I am going to egg your house tonite", i.e, escalation. I am guilty of having escalated before myself, it's just not a chronic thing with me. I get mad sometimes, and maybe do something stupid, but I don't continue in the same vein indefinately.

Of course I know is not against the ToS, although I personally think that it should be against the ToS to threaten people on the forums with a triple neg and then follow through with it. We all know that those rates are intended to be used for inworld appearance, behavior, and building skill. Stating you're going to triple neg someone over a forum squabble indicates an anger problem. Your mileage obviously varies, que sera, sera. Whatever makes you feel better and more powerful.

Geez, Cristiano, that sounds like a personal insult!

I haven't lied, I've asked you why you need to capture my IPS or anybody's IPS. This requires a conscious choice. Why?

I've raised legitimate questions about what you do with that IPS. When someone captures your IPS, it means they can use it to track you and hone in on you.

That I've explained that vulnerability and potential for abuse in your website IPS-grabbing doesn't mean I've made an accusation.

I've merely asked you -- and am doing so once again -- WHAT on earth are you doing with all those IPS numbers, Cristiano? What are they FOR???

I find it also alarming since it stemmed from triple neg's and forum flaming, but I think you just finally encountered someone who's just as zealously vindictive as yourself. It happens.

I'm not vindictive, I just use reasonable, rational, and legal methods to fight back against those who are.

this really IS the fucking height of insanity...

What is this? Lets hype the troops up into an hysterical mob while we can't get in...

and MJ I am triple neg rating you for even posting today!!!

Now you threaten to reciprocate in kind. If you're "not worried", why would you need to call up the FBI yourself? Or are you just posturing?

I'm trip negging you for not sl00ting anymore!

Artemis,

It's how neural networks work which are increasingly being used to mine databases for information. By associating a set of neural strengths to bits of information and then feeding it into a network, you get a resulting strength which can be used to quantify the 'importance' or strength of that set of information.

It's a simple idea, but quite powerful. Basically, total strength = sigma(w(i)*d(i)) (for i = number of bits in dataset, and w(i) is the weight of that information and d(i) is the quantifier for that information).

What this all implies is that if Prok gets in enough databases eventually the neural networks will start flagging him.

Basically, it means flying under the radar if you have any thoughts or ideas that might people might disagree with. Cause you don't want to end up in those databases!

I advise everyone send a copy of the post (/130/f7/45220/2.html#post480227) in which Prokofy admitted to fraudulent advertising to the New York State Consumer Protection Board.

That post, quoted below, describes how Prokofy set a parcel of land for sale at L$0 to himself, and then used that bait to push his sales at a higher rate. If anyone felt deceived by the practice, then please go to http://www.consumer.state.ny.us/ and file a complaint. Since Prokofy Neva has broken the law by means of his fraudulent advertising and has refused to even apologize in-world, I think the only recourse is to pursue a complaint with the proper authorities.



I didn't get it. I came to the land then, and I felt as if I had been scammed. I took time out of my day to check out this land, only to discover that the advertising of L$0 land was completely fraudulent. If anyone has had a similar experience, please do not remain silent so that others can be victimized.

Blaze, all web servers have logs that track file requests (visits), and they record such things as: date/time, refering link, and IP address. It's just a function of how a website works.