FYI hypolcites are alive and well

One question, since you keep making the fact that yours is a REAL account a pivotal point... Did you keep the 512 of First Land for Strawbearry's personal use, or did you add it to Cocoa's land?

OK, I'll take this on. (Then I gotta go to the store.)

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First Land is something that you get when you buy a new ACCOUNT. Because THAT player has never owned First Land.

It is a one-time thing that all new accounts get.

It is assumed it will be a REAL account for your household, and not just an account to get something quick and then delete.

When you get an account, that is your account forever, and you only get one chance at First Land with it. You also get a sign-on bonus with it, the ability to own 512 without paying tier

- and NOTICE how that is the SAME 512! Do you expect us to somehow pay tier on it, too? -

plus $500 a week.

It is often very scarce because some people game the system by buying up lots of land with alts they later delete.

But when we are running short on land (as we did after people taking advantage of an exploit), we will just release more, as there is no true scarcity. We will provide every new account with 512 of land. We release land in proportion to all the new accounts we get. We try to keep a rein on those who would abuse the system by creating a number of alts - you are allowed only five - but we can't always control that, so there may be shortages at times.

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Also, Cristiano, you keep harping on the cost of the thing. I don't really get that. In my case, anyway, whether it cost me $512 or $3000 was far less important than that it was contiguous to my plot.

I have bought from other players land near me. And with my alt, I bought her first 512, as is my right as a NEW, ACTUAL, PERMANENT ACCOUNT.

There is NOTHING gaming the system about that.

coco

I am speaking about the cost of it because it is a fundamental part of First Land - that even though the market for land is much higher, you are guaranteed to get a plot for $1/m. There seems to be a lack of understanding of tier is at issue here. You just blurred first land and the tier that is included with a premium account. A premium account includes 512m of tier (1024m of tier if you had a premium account prior to 1.2). That just says "You can own up to this much land without an additional fee". It does not give you the 512m of land. You have to buy the land. The 512m of land provided by the First Land program does coincide with the lowest tier size for a reason - so that once you own it, you have no additional fees.

The program has NOTHING at all to do with a premium account per se. You aren't elligible for it with each new premium account you buy. It was a new player incentive. You creating a second account does not make you a new player any more than my registering with Movielink with a second email address really makes me a new customer elligible for a first time movie download of $0.99 since I have already been a customer of theirs and rented before. First Land was set up to help new players with very limited financial resources and no experience in owning land get their first plot without the risk and costs associated normally with owning land. Established players using it just goes against the spirit of it. I am surprised you can't see that.

Your saying no old timers gamed the system LOL that would be fine if it wasn't spoken about so freely "forum archives" they are a great tool for the truth.

"Creepy."

The new in-way to marginalize people.

"Creepy" as in what happened in the other thread, where I became "creepy" for having two characters and speaking of them in the third person.

coco

It's still hers, but it is right next door to Coco's, and I plan to create a third alt (a basic one) so we can group it.

coco

P.S. Oh, I see where you are going with this. It would be OKAY if I plan to role-play some other person entirely.

Well, dig this: Strawbearry works for Coco. She tests out all her products. She may even branch out to products of her own. But she and Coco will always be in business together, and I defy you to tell me there is something wrong with that. OR my use of pronouns, lol.

It's still hers, but it is right next door to Coco's, and I plan to create a third alt (a basic one) so we can group it.

coco

P.S. Oh, I see where you are going with this. It would be OKAY if I plan to role-play some other person entirely.

Well, dig this: Strawbearry works for Coco. She tests out all her products. She may even branch out to products of her own. But she and Coco will always be in business together, and I defy you to tell me there is something wrong with that. OR my use of pronouns, lol.

Pot, kettle black. Taking first land for your own purposes is not necessarily against the rules, .....

I can't believe people are rehashing the same shit that Jeska put a stop to yesterday.

I can't believe people are rehashing the same shit that Jeska put a stop to yesterday.

Well at least we can agree on that.

Mar

I'm not really talking about roleplay. Roleplaying isn't neccessary just to have a 'real' alt. Some people use them to test stuff, or to just have some peace and quiet without being pestered. My question was more based on whether you intended this First Land to benefit Strawbearry, or to benefit Cocoa. Because if it's the latter, then it is gaming the system, in my opinion. If you bought it strictly for Strawbearry's use, then I actually have little problem with it. I choose not to do it myself with my own alt, but that's my personal choice. I would rather leave it for people who need it.

Do you agree with the second part? The part about hypocricy.

I can't believe people are rehashing the same shit that Jeska put a stop to yesterday.

Now just do me one favor and put down that pointing finger, it's just wrong.

Mar.

I have a hypolcite on my ass. It's as big as an apple.

I quoted the statement I agreed with, as always.

Mar.

I have a hypolcite on my ass. It's as big as an apple.

On the topic, I didn't know about this early buying up of lifetime accounts, and I don't know if any of those who said I was unethical to buy a 512 First Land with my second account did that.

On the other hand, I've been told that people DO such things as these, snapping up lots of land to make their contiguous spots.

Common sense also tells me that probably most people - especially new people, who don't realize it is supposedly a huge no-no - who do get a second account and then also avail themselves of the 512 opportunity along with the other things that come with a new account.

I have explained that while I was against buying up all the First Land for one's own land business, or just to make a quick profit, may indeed be unethical. On the other hand, it may also just provide a better service, in that how much a lot costs is probably less important than that it is right next to your own lot. At least that is true in my case.

And I am pretty certain that others who criticized my action have done the same thing (some others, not all of the others) - bought a second account (a real account they intend to use) - and bought 512 with it, next to the land they already have.

I don't see why this thread would be shut down, unless it is just to shut Martin up. Is it considered reposting of an old thread? Does that mean one can never discuss the subject again?

I don't think that's what they mean by reposting an old thread. I've seen lots of threads closed, then the topic restarted by someone else. I think it means mainly reposting to complain about your old thread getting closed.

Am I wrong?

And thank you, Martin, for coming to my support.

coco