FYI hypolcites are alive and well
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:51
Well, the whole thing could have been avoided if I hadn't taken umbrage at being called unethical for buying First Land with my second account. Or it could have been avoided if I'd just meekly accepted that characterization of me for doing that, and dropped the subject. I think it is a good thing that it has been posted in the Hotline for clarification for all. I had no idea I was doing anything wrong, and I'm sure there are bunches of others who have no idea, either. Someone in the game told me last night, they just might not answer it in the Hotline. I sure hope they do. coco
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JackBurton Faulkland
PorkChop Express
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09-30-2005 12:51
From: Willow Zander I like sin! I also like NON DRAMATIC FORUMS, but that just ain't a happenin'! Please don't take this thread too seriously, or any other overly dramatic WAA WAA thread either, we all like to vent now and again, it passes.  lol nope i got dramatic on my first post. Never again will i be the pawn of this twisted game!
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Siggy Romulus
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09-30-2005 12:52
From: Cocoanut Koala My mistake was only not making it clear enough. Not some kind of Freudian slip. You know me well enough to know by now I would not make the mistake of assuming EVERYONE who criticized me over that had done the exact same thing. That would be wrong and more than stupid. coco
Yah coz I've never had first land *edited*
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:53
From: Cristiano Midnight Then do kindly be quiet about people flinging poo. You are fine when it is someone doing it on your behalf, but not fine when it is other people "flinging poo". Whatever. I will try to be better in the future about that, Cristiano. I'm going to try to holler about it only where it concerns me. I can keep speaking out on my ideas about what the forum needs without having to take up anybody's particular cause. (But I do deserve the right to take up my own.) coco
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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09-30-2005 12:54
From: Claire Glitterbuck I'm the "little bird" in question here, not Coco.
I was looking for clarification on the new TOS and ran across that thread, and was shocked at the postings against Coco for it - and then asked Martin about it. I did the very same thing with an alt account just last week, and didn't think twice about it - I certainly didn't see anything wrong with it. I'm paying full price for that account, LL certainly isn't cutting me any cost breaks - so I assumed the price reduction for First Land was included.
I'm not trying to gouge the system, I'm not trying to take anything away from newbies. Just this past July when all of the land changes came about, Philip stated at a Town Hall that as the need for more land arose, they'd simply create more - and yes, I assumed that meant First Land as well.
I didn't buy land adjoining anything I already own, I bought a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, so my alt could have its own home. So, feel free to let the blasting begin! Until LL says that what I (and others) did is wrong, I'm going to keep that tiny plot and I just won't invite any of you over for supper! You miss the point. It's about Coco's accusations of others buying first land to game the system. Then she goes and does it herself. It's 100% hypocricy.
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:54
From: Jonquille Noir 1 person is not 'people.' Why can't you just address the 1 person without having to exaggerate and dramatize it? That's a reasonable point. By "people" I mean ALL the things I've been accused of doing which I would never do, for all these long months on here. I'm tired of it. coco
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
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09-30-2005 12:55
first land, life time accounts and taxes are 3 seperate subjects. All of which have been used to get ahead with. I myself have been offered no less than 3 lifetime accounts from other players who had to many. I myself have bought first land with alt accounts and resold them for a tidy profit. I myself took the advice of an old timer and hid my money so it would not be taken in taxes. Just as many other ppl I know have. Some of which have made hypocrital statements to the contray against Coco. Name names? Not a chance, that would be a violation of the tos. Just as outting Alts is.
Mar
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Weedy Herbst
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09-30-2005 12:55
From: Cocoanut Koala Well, the whole thing could have been avoided if I hadn't taken umbrage at being called unethical for buying First Land with my second account. Or it could have been avoided if I'd just meekly accepted that characterization of me for doing that, and dropped the subject. I think it is a good thing that it has been posted in the Hotline for clarification for all. I had no idea I was doing anything wrong, and I'm sure there are bunches of others who have no idea, either. Someone in the game told me last night, they just might not answer it in the Hotline. I sure hope they do. coco Wrong, this would be a non-issue, had you not made accusations about others DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING!
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-30-2005 12:55
From: Cocoanut Koala I will try to be better in the future about that, Cristiano. I'm going to try to holler about it only where it concerns me. I can keep speaking out on my ideas about what the forum needs without having to take up anybody's particular cause. (But I do deserve the right to take up my own.) coco I have never ever had a problem with you wanting to improve the forums, or your right to speak out about thinking it needs to be better. Hell, I would like to see it get better -some of the attacks of late have made me cringe. However, it has always been the double standard of it all that has driven me nuts. Speak all you like about what you think is right or wrong with the forums. Tell people what is wrong with their behavior, and then behave the same way or give someone else a free pass to do so, and it will end up coming back at you every time.
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Siggy Romulus
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09-30-2005 12:55
From: Cocoanut Koala That's a reasonable point. By "people" I mean ALL the things I've been accused of doing which I would never do, for all these long months on here. I'm tired of it. coco but most of those you made up yourself.... and most the rest weren't directed at you either 
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:57
From: Pendari Lorentz I will never again respect anything you say after this post. I'm sorry I had any hope left that you were not two-faced.  Pendari, that's new? I don't claim to be perfect, never did. And I'm human, too. Yeah, I'm happy to see somebody come to my defense. So sue me. coco
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-30-2005 12:57
From: Martin Magpie first land, life time accounts and taxes are 3 seperate subjects. All of which have been used to get ahead with. I myself have been offered no less than 3 lifetime accounts from other players who had to many. I myself have bought first land with alt accounts and resold them for a tidy profit. I myself took the advice of an old timer and hid my money so it would not be taken in taxes. Just as many other ppl I know have. Some of which have made hypocrital statements to the contray against Coco. Name names? Not a chance, that would be a violation of the tos. Just as outting Alts is.
Mar You already outted this alt, Catherine. You don't get to put the genie back in the bottle. Also, thank you for admitting that speaking of alts is against the TOS. Hopefully the abuse reports against you for your continued false statements about Nolan and I will get you warned.
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Buster Peel
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09-30-2005 12:58
this thread is funny.
I myself practilce hypolciticy flequentry.
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:59
From: Weedy Herbst You miss the point. It's about Coco's accusations of others buying first land to game the system. Then she goes and does it herself. It's 100% hypocricy. You miss the point. It was about others glomming up all the first land with alts they then delete. coco
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
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09-30-2005 12:59
From: Cristiano Midnight You already outted this alt, Catherine. You don't get to put the genie back in the bottle. Also, thank you for admitting that speaking of alts is against the TOS. Hopefully the abuse reports against you for your continued false statements about Nolan and I will get you warned. So just so I got this right, we are not friends again? Just keep me up to date please as our friendship seems to change as often as you change your underware. Mar
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Siggy Romulus
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09-30-2005 12:59
From: Buster Peel this thread is funny.
I myself practilce hypolciticy flequentry. You must excuse my contrafibularities..... tis a common word round these parts...
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JackBurton Faulkland
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09-30-2005 12:59
Come on people its Friday cheer the fuck up!
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-30-2005 12:59
From: Siggy Romulus Yah coz I've never had first land *edited* I thought your song riff in that other thread was really terrific, Siggy! coco
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Lecktor Hannibal
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09-30-2005 13:00
From: Martin Magpie So just so I got this right, we are not friends again? Just keep me up to date please as our friendship seems to change as often as you change your underware.
Mar He goes commando. Figure out that analogy.
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Siggy Romulus
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09-30-2005 13:00
Dude I'm going to work in like 30 mins - in another 8 hours I'll be a happy lil ray of sunshine.... well maybe not.. I'll just be my regular asshat self 
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Pendari Lorentz
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09-30-2005 13:01
From: Cocoanut Koala Pendari, that's new? I don't claim to be perfect, never did. And I'm human, too. Yeah, I'm happy to see somebody come to my defense. So sue me. coco Someone coming to your defense is *not* the point of what I said. The fact that you pick and choose when to "cry foul" based on if it is to your advantage or not, is what I'm talking about.
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
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09-30-2005 13:01
From: Lecktor Hannibal He goes commando. Figure out that analogy. ROFLMAO 
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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09-30-2005 13:02
From: Cristiano Midnight I have never ever had a problem with you wanting to improve the forums, or your right to speak out about thinking it needs to be better. Hell, I would like to see it get better -some of the attacks of late have made me cringe. However, it has always been the double standard of it all that has driven me nuts. Speak all you like about what you think is right or wrong with the forums. Tell people what is wrong with their behavior, and then behave the same way or give someone else a free pass to do so, and it will end up coming back at you every time. As I said, I will try to improve on that, Cristiano. coco
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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09-30-2005 13:03
From: Cocoanut Koala You miss the point. It was about others glomming up all the first land with alts they then delete. coco Where is your proof? Your story changes by the minute. Spinning this to cover up your misdeeds, only gets you deeper into it.
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-30-2005 13:03
From: Cristiano Midnight Catherine,
Land for the landless and First Land were both programs created specifically for new players to get a plot of land at $512L. It had nothing to do with taxes. People using their alt accounts to avoid their taxes has nothing to do with using an alt to buy a piece of land intended for someone who has never owned it before. I bought land within my first few minutes of being in SL, so I never used the land for landless or First Land program. Techinically, that would make me elligible to buy a plot now, but I wouldn't - because I don't need to get subsidized land. Neither did Cocoanut, that was the point. You keep trying to blur in a bunch of things because you think you have made some great point, but not much of what you have said makes any sense at all. same here. I bought land before I knew one could get 1st land --and while I could technically argue that I shouldbe able to get first land with an alt. I won't. Why? Don't need to and Ano is right -- THAT's the point. First Land is designed to be a leg-up for newcomers. period.
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