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Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 13:07
From: Catherine Cotton
My entire point is they didn't need to do this, for press, for shock value, what ever.
Their builds spoke for themselves. If they were building the playboy mansion I MIGHT understand the need to do this in artist sence. This however has nothing to do with any of their builds.
I'm done giving this BS free press. I am no longer interested in their next build either.
Catherine, Who are you to decide what they do or don't need to do? The nudes were taken as part of the styleized depiction of Chinatown. If you did a little more research, you would understand the relationship of nude art shots and the authentic, gritty Chinatown motif they were going for in the sim. Nudity has been a part of fine art from the beginning - both paintings and photography. The human body, even in its simulated form, is a thing of beauty. Certainly, there will always be an argument over what constitutes art v. pornography, but in the end, it is in the eye of the beholder. Ariel's beautiful work speaks for itself, and it honored the Chinatown project, and the models involved in the shoot. The collective talent of all involved speaks far more volumes than your attempt to malign them does. I am sure Bedazzle thanks you for your unintended publicity - I suppose your cynicism does have some benefit.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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04-04-2005 13:11
From: Catherine Cotton I find it hard to believe that ppl would not of seen it. #1 Bedazzle's work is mentioned all over ths LL web site. From front page news to blogs, to forum entries. Let's not be nieve about that. #2 There is a direct link on the fan pages Bedazzle Group's Bedazzle Web SiteBedazzle is working to bring high quality content inside SL for the pleasure of the community. #3 Click on enter to the Bedazzle web above, and the fist thing you see is a naked chick sitting on a car. The page with all the nudes has no warning what so ever. So the fact that I found it was not because I was searching it out, I was curious about their web and their upcoming project. I however did not expect to see their team buck ass naked. My entire point is they didn't need to do this, for press, for shock value, what ever. Their builds spoke for themselves. If they were building the playboy mansion I MIGHT understand the need to do this in artist sence. This however has nothing to do with any of their builds. I'm done giving this BS free press. I am no longer interested in their next build either. I do tons of things that I don't NEED to do. I still don't get your point. We shouldn't do anything unless we need to? It seems to me that it was creative, a bit naughty, shocking perhaps to some, obviously a little thought provoking and unexpected, and very lovely. All the elements of great art! And besides, there is no such thing as bad press. 
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Zuzi Martinez
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04-04-2005 13:11
From: someone I am sure Bedazzled thanks you for your unintended publicity suuuuuuuuure...... 
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 13:12
From: David Valentino I do tons of things that I don't NEED to do. I still don't get your point. We shouldn't do anything unless we need to? It seems to me that it was creative, a bit naughty, shocking perhaps to some, obviously a little thought provoking and unexpected, and very lovely. All the elments of great art! And besides, there is no such thing as bad press.  oh please sex sells, the end.
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 13:13
From: Cristiano Midnight Catherine,
Who are you to decide what they do or don't need to do? The nudes were taken as part of the styleized depiction of Chinatown. If you did a little more research, you would understand the relationship of nude art shots and the authentic, gritty Chinatown motif they were going for in the sim.
Nudity has been a part of fine art from the beginning - both paintings and photography. The human body, even in its simulated form, is a thing of beauty. Certainly, there will always be an argument over what constitutes art v. pornography, but in the end, it is in the eye of the beholder.
Ariel's beautiful work speaks for itself, and it honored the Chinatown project, and the models involved in the shoot. The collective talent of all involved speaks far more volumes than your attempt to malign them does. I am sure Bedazzle thanks you for your unintended publicity - I suppose your cynicism does have some benefit. Ok where is Jimmy's nude shot then? P.S; I'm not a prude by any means and I dig a good naked body. I however feel that its hard enough as a woman to be treated as an equal in sl and this didn't help.
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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
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04-04-2005 13:14
From: David Valentino It seems to me that it was creative, a bit naughty, shocking perhaps to some, obviously a little thought provoking and unexpected, and very lovely. And that thought is: "Mmmmmmmmmmm pus**"
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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04-04-2005 13:23
From: Catherine Cotton Ok where is Jimmy's nude shot then?
P.S; I'm not a prude by any means and I dig a good naked body. I however feel that its hard enough as a woman to be treated as an equal in sl and this didn't help. Foxy is as involved as Jimmy, and the last time I checked, female. Why are you attributing this all to Jimmy? In fact, several of the women photographed - Mistress, Taeja and Foxy, are incredibly successful and well established. They took part in it willingly because they are proud, not ashamed as you are trying to make them somehow feel. How exactly are they not being treated as equals again in SL? In fact, some of the most succesful players in SL are in fact, female - look at the developer incentives list sometime.
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Foxy Xevious
Bedazzle Team
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04-04-2005 13:25
I'll stay out of this!!! *EDITS POST*
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 13:26
From: Cristiano Midnight Foxy is as involved as Jimmy, and the last time I checked, female. Why are you attributing this all to Jimmy? In fact, several of the women photographed - Mistress, Taeja and Foxy, are incredibly successful and well established. They took part in it willingly because they are proud, not ashamed as you are trying to make them somehow feel. How exactly are they not being treated as equals again in SL? In fact, some of the most succesful players in SL are in fact, female - look at the developer incentives list sometime. He is their "artistic director" Look this is my opinion, I find it lowered some of the most cretive "ppl" in sl to a new low. Nothing will change that opinion. <deleted personal attack -Pathfinder> I would not do that for press or under the belief that what I am doing is for the sake of "art" Sex sells, it was for the press nothing more. Was that part of the site up during the time that china town was up? No I don't remember it being up.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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04-04-2005 13:27
From: Catherine Cotton Ok where is Jimmy's nude shot then?
P.S; I'm not a prude by any means and I dig a good naked body. I however feel that its hard enough as a woman to be treated as an equal in sl and this didn't help. Women? Equals? *confused* I think you are attributing far too much to this Cat. Nudity, AV or RL does nothing to "lessen" one's self. Especially if tastefully done, such as these shots.
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Surreal Farber
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04-04-2005 13:30
From: Catherine Cotton Your right its just free press. Come one this isn't art its an attempt to grab a few headlines. I am disapointed in Bedazzle, I thought they were above this sort of thing. Hell their builds are damn impressive as a woman I was a little stunned, then a lot disapointed to see them shedding their clothes. What was the point? What build did this have to do with? Its a fricken joke and I for one am laughing at them for pulling such an obvious stunt. From: blaze Spinnaker I guess that bedazzled is going to reach profitability one way or not - even if it means prostituting themselves. OMFG... Can't you all find something real to bitch about? From: Catherine Cotton LOL Maxx that is probalby the response they are looking for. Now which are realy females? or are any of them females? Before getting a second life you should be required to get a first life. From: Loki Pico If this link had not been posted here, I would have never seen it. Same here. Torley, I still respect you. Why do the SL forums seem more and more like that Abnormal Psych class I took back in college?
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Davina Steele
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04-04-2005 13:32
She's like the energizer bunny.....STILL GOING!!! I thought you said you where done giving this free press? Ahhh, so you can't back out like you said and you rather bitch about this B.S as you call it. I'm sure bedazzle is the one now having the last laugh on you Catherine.. I know I am. If you don't like it, don't look at it. But instead you came here to cause a bunch of drama and now you can't take the heat. What they did was a form of art with those photos. The only thing i see distasteful is your mouth.
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Blueman Steele
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If you only knew
04-04-2005 13:32
From: Ingrid Ingersoll This is HOTT. So when are the men going to take it all off? hmmmm? uh... there is no easy way to inform you that they actually already have.
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Talen Morgan
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04-04-2005 13:33
From: Surreal Farber OMFG... Can't you all find something real to bitch about? Before getting a second life you should be required to get a first life. Same here. Torley, I still respect you. Why do the SL forums seem more and more like that Abnormal Psych class I took back in college? This goes way beyond Abnormal Psych 
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Blueman Steele
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Sex doesn't sell
04-04-2005 13:36
Sex only gets attention.
If there was not such an awesome build supporting these clad beauties (which btw they built) thered be nothing to KEEP attention.
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Davina Steele
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04-04-2005 13:37
From: Catherine Cotton He is their "artistic director"
Look this is my opinion, I find it lowered some of the most cretive "ppl" in sl to a new low. Nothing will change that opinion.
<deleted quote of personal attack -Pathfinder>
I would not do that for press or under the belief that what I am doing is for the sake of "art" Sex sells, it was for the press nothing more. Was that part of the site up during the time that china town was up? No I don't remember it being up. The pics where displayed in Chinatown during the time chinatown was open
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Starley Thereian
More Cowbell!
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04-04-2005 13:40
I think the pics look great and go well with the Chinatown theme. I'm just sad that Paris' nipples didn't get the chance to rez in before they took the snap.  (Yes I looked THAT closely  ) And as it's been stated multiple times, these were pictures of women (or at least female avatars) taken by women and evidently enjoyed by a number of women, myself included. What is wrong with a woman choosing to express her sexuality freely, anyway? Or maybe all women should just repress their sexuality? That smells like repressing women to me. 
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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04-04-2005 13:46
I post naked pictures of myself all the time. It never gets a rise (sic) out of anyone. Not even Catherine!
Sigh.
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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04-04-2005 13:48
From: Surreal Farber Same here. Torley, I still respect you.  For some of these people, taking off their clothes is nothing. The challenge is convincing them to take off their hair. 
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Torrid Midnight
Work in progress
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04-04-2005 13:57
WHORES ALL OF YOU!!! Okay, so Bedazzle decided to do some nude shots for their club. They haven't promoted these pictures in any way to my knowledge and therefore I wouldn't say they're using them to "sell". I find it interesting that some people see these avatars or other females in SL to have the "ideal" look. In my experience I've noticed that most female avs in SL are NOT ideal lol, at least that's my opinion. I think it's that they believe they're ideal, that they're becoming something from the pages of a magazine. I mean it's like, large boobs check, no hips check, tiny waist check, flat bum check, okay I'm ready!! I'm not speaking about anyone in particular here so don't take offense. The idea that you can't ever be too thin or too rich has found a home in the virtual world. Apparently using your boobs as an emergency floatation device is alive and well also.
I know for sure that two of these women are indeed women and that they chose to do this. I don't believe in the whole "degrading to women" attitude when the participants are willing and happy to put themselves in the scenario to begin with. As I said before, Bedazzle obviously hasn't used these pictures to promote themselves. It's like finding a folder on your friend's pc with a couple of suggestive pictures and accusing them of being in porn. If anything, this thread has brought attention to pictures that I probably wouldn't have seen. This would actually be a smart way of getting publicity without getting your hands dirty lol.
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Mistress Midnight
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04-04-2005 14:02
Quick Question Why'd you click the link catherine?  It listed the names of the models, and a disclaimer "the gallery contain nudity" If you knew what you'd be subjecting yourself too, why click? Bored? 
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David Valentino
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04-04-2005 14:05
From: Mistress Midnight Quick Question Why'd you click the link catherine?  It listed the names of the models, and a disclaimer "the gallery contain nudity" If you knew what you'd be subjecting yourself too, why click? Bored?  I've come to the conclusion that Catherine is being paid by Bedazzle. Well done! A great advertising scheme! Either that, or she's bummed that she was asked to pose for them.... Is it too late to get some done of Cat??
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 14:12
From: Mistress Midnight Quick Question Why'd you click the link catherine?  It listed the names of the models, and a disclaimer "the gallery contain nudity" If you knew what you'd be subjecting yourself too, why click? Bored?  Hit the link from SL fan sites, hit the link ENTER ( no warning what so ever) and boom naked chick sitting on a car, click on chick (again no warning about nudity) or if there is its so tiny you dont notice it but i double checked. I am not suprized one bit that there are supporters for this sort of thing. So I disagree that they NEEDED to do this. You think putting me down for that opinion will change my mind? No it wont it only changes my opinion of you too.
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 14:15
From: David Valentino I've come to the conclusion that Catherine is being paid by Bedazzle. Well done! A great advertising scheme!
Either that, or she's bummed that she was asked to pose for them....
Is it too late to get some done of Cat?? You know David I have no interest in being shot Nude in SL So no men worked on bedazzle then. Good to know.
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Kyada Satyr
Stealth Asshole (AKA AMY)
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04-04-2005 14:16
From: Catherine Cotton He is their "artistic director"
Look this is my opinion, I find it lowered some of the most cretive "ppl" in sl to a new low. Nothing will change that opinion. They are not my equal cus they lowered them selves to showing tites and pussy. I would not do that for press or under the belief that what I am doing is for the sake of "art" Sex sells, it was for the press nothing more. Was that part of the site up during the time that china town was up? No I don't remember it being up. 1. learn to type some words out 2. Posing nude doesnt lower shit. being nude is Art if you put it in a pose or something. 3. shut up 4. MM kicks royal ass 5. shut up 6. deal with life and dont bitch. just let it flow
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