Bedazzle Be Naked
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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04-04-2005 09:14
My personal views (for me and me alone) are actually fairly close Catherine’s on this one. I'm proud of my accomplishments in SL and would never promote them by draping naked woman around them. I'm not completely opposed to appearing nude in photos myself, but only when the context of the nudity lends me rather than robs me of dignity. This usually means nudity in a proper context, and rarely for commercial purposes.
That said, what is the point of this thread? Bedazzle is happy. The girls that posed for the pictures are happy. The viewers are happy. The photography and photoshopping is outstanding. The backdrop is (obviously) outstanding. So the presence of nudity may distract from the art...but it's art nonetheless.
Why bust their balls? Different strokes for different folks.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
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04-04-2005 09:18
From: Aimee Weber That said, what is the point of this thread? Bedazzle is happy. The girls that posed for the pictures are happy. The viewers are happy.
I think they are nice. People have done amazing things with their avatars. BUT needs more men.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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04-04-2005 09:26
From: Ingrid Ingersoll I think they are nice. People have done amazing things with their avatars. BUT needs more men. I want to pose naked! I think this is all very sexist! As if everyone in SL just wants to see naked women... Oh wait..that's right..they do..
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Agatha Palmerstone
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04-04-2005 10:00
From: blaze Spinnaker It's all a game of percentages. SL's percentages are bit too high That kind of thinking is what has damaged our civilization. Not about nakedness or whatever in specific, but the idea that we should make these kinds of judgements for everyone. Too high for what, your tastes?? Who cares? I am just criticizing the idea that we can make one standard for all, that there is a "correct amount" of porn, booze, drugs, etc. The correct amount is the amount you, individually, think is correct. It's like saying "Vanilla Ice Cream is Objectively Better than Onion Ice Cream". Almost no one might disagree with you, but it's still a matter of taste.
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Eboni Khan
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04-04-2005 10:01
From: Ingrid Ingersoll I think they are nice. People have done amazing things with their avatars. BUT needs more men. I have yet to see one good naked male avatar. 
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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04-04-2005 10:02
From: Agatha Palmerstone That kind of thinking is what has damaged our civilization. Not about nakedness or whatever in specific, but the idea that we should make these kinds of judgements for everyone. Too high for what, your tastes?? Who cares? I am just criticizing the idea that we can make one standard for all, that there is a "correct amount" of porn, booze, drugs, etc. The correct amount is the amount you, individually, think is correct.
It's like saying "Vanilla Ice Cream is Objectively Better than Onion Ice Cream". Almost no one might disagree with you, but it's still a matter of taste. Well said! Also..in case folks have forgotten, we are born naked. It's not a disgraceful state to be in, but a very natural one.
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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04-04-2005 10:07
From: Agatha Palmerstone It's like saying "Vanilla Ice Cream is Objectively Better than Onion Ice Cream". Almost no one might disagree with you, but it's still a matter of taste. Make it Garlic and Onion Ice Cream and you've got a loyal customer right here!
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Tcoz Bach
Tyrell Victim
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04-04-2005 10:23
The observation that there are no such similar collages of naked male avatars posing demurely and touching on their nakedness is interesting.
The female avatars represented in those pictures are as idealic as any penthouse pet...a male avatar dangling down to his knees (or protruding out the door) would probably not be met with similar tolerance. For the sake of "art", I'd think one would want to represent the female form with a tad more...well, somewhat more realistically. The point of sexual fantasy is not lost on me...both for the observer, and the creator. However, the stress in creating such a form is typically from the gals (or guys playing the gals, but that's something else entirely)...if you look at all the male and female avatars in the game, you will (I believe) find that female avatars are idealized far more consistently than male. I'd be willing to bet they own the lion's share of bling scripts too.
THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK merely an observation, nothing more. Women in SL have simply always seemed more interested in portraying themselves as Playboy quality forms than men have been interested in portraying themselves as Naked Atlas clones. Men really only seem interested in it when women are around (and I have seen women object strongly to John Holmes + 10 rolling into the hottub). For instance, a neighbor of mine well known for putting the mmmmm in mature used to hang out with her friends naked in her basement and work on their...well, hairstyles, as it were. Guys just don't do that.
Curious stuff.
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Jennifer Reitveld
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04-04-2005 10:33
Well maybe someone should put a men of SL forum up and solicit for male underwear models (if I wanted to see a guys thingy I could alway just look at the adult profiles on Yahoo-Give me broad shoulders and a gorgeous back any day!). The post your sexy pic forum is dominated by some very beautiful women. Maybe we should give the boys one of their own?
P.S. Aimee, sorry I almost killed you on my jet bike rampage. Its so hard to control with the tiny arrows on my laptop. It was fun though. I actualy rode the damed thing all the way to the Edge!
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Kats Kothari
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04-04-2005 10:44
Many of us relate the avatars to the people behind the pc and therefore they are a representation of our RL-selves. I think what is more shocking to me about seeing the pics is not the nudity, is the avatars/people that are posing. The same way that it would be weird for me to do an ad for a kitty backpack wearing nothing but my birthday suit, I found it weird to look at pics with the naked avatars of some of the most creative people in SL. I guess it's more expected from other avatars that don't have much going in other ways to promote themselves in this manner, since they rely on the "sex sells" technique to acquire publicity. The avatars in these pics certainly have a lot going in the creative/personality/charisma/popularity fields and therefore do not need to promote themselves by posing in the nude. All this being said, if they posed willingly, weren't being exploited, had fun and wanted to do this, then it's their choice. If you don't agree with it, then don't give them more publicity. P.S. w00t, b00b13s! 
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Shadow Weaver
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04-04-2005 10:45
Snickers quietly and walks out of the thread...
<<<Gets outside and laughs Hysterically, Yup, now they are complaining that its only woman avatars being shown....hmmm if women want hunky men so badly why don't they make the avatar and sell them for the world to approve of...<<continues laughing.
BTW my new office allows internet access but not as prolific as before.
take care all
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Ewan Took
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04-04-2005 11:29
Yeah, design us photorealistic skins with *matching* dangly bits and we'll wear them for you. 
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Jennifer Reitveld
Dork in heels
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04-04-2005 11:31
*Smacks Shadow on his undoubtably cute butt*
Hun are you just afraid you wouldn't be picked? Now when can I get my Hornet hun? Get back to work! Jenn
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Urusula Zapata
I love my Pugs!
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04-04-2005 12:14
From: Eboni Khan I have yet to see one good naked male avatar.  See if you can catch KC Stonehill nakkie sometime. 
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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-04-2005 12:27
From: Urusula Zapata See if you can catch KC Stonehill nakkie sometime.  I'm still mentally scarred from the last time.
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Rose Karuna
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04-04-2005 12:30
Let's not forget Blake....
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Maeve Morgan
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04-04-2005 12:31
I like the pics I think they're pretty tastful more of an art photography than Penthouse. They all look lovely. Torley might want to get some sun though the glare off her tush could be blinding in the right light. (Just kidding Torley you look great) 
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Alexa Hope
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04-04-2005 12:36
I am intrigued as to why they did this. Can anyone cast any light on the reasons?
Alexa
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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04-04-2005 12:41
They were curious as to how many 100% cotton crotches they could get into a square knot.
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Taeja Diaz
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Join date: 24 Jun 2003
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04-04-2005 12:47
Hmm... I'm probably going to say something that many of you have already said or were thinking to yourselves already. However, being one of he participants in this photoshoot, I would like to respond to the comments. First and foremost, this -is- Second Life. Would I pose for something like this irl? The answer would be probably not. Second Life is a virtual world where we are able to experiment with things that perhaps we wouldn't do in our first lives...a place to be creative and imaginative. That being said, I saw nothing wrong with my -avatar- being displayed in this art form. Everything was tastefully done. The members of Bedazzle who helped to orchestrate the shoot were ever so nice. And in the end, something was produced that could be truly appreciated by some...but perhaps loathed by others. I think some are definitely reading just a little too much into this. The images shown are not pornographic or hurtful in any way. In essence, it was all in good fun and enjoyable. Thanks to Bedazzle, Jimmy Thomson & Ariel Roentgen in particular, for taking such hot picks of a group of talented women within Second Life. I was more than happy to assist in their project and it was an honor to participate 
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 12:48
From: Loki Pico If this link had not been posted here, I would have never seen it. I find it hard to believe that ppl would not of seen it. #1 Bedazzle's work is mentioned all over ths LL web site. From front page news to blogs, to forum entries. Let's not be nieve about that. #2 There is a direct link on the fan pages Bedazzle Group's Bedazzle Web SiteBedazzle is working to bring high quality content inside SL for the pleasure of the community. #3 Click on enter to the Bedazzle web above, and the fist thing you see is a naked chick sitting on a car. The page with all the nudes has no warning what so ever. So the fact that I found it was not because I was searching it out, I was curious about their web and their upcoming project. I however did not expect to see their team buck ass naked. My entire point is they didn't need to do this, for press, for shock value, what ever. Their builds spoke for themselves. If they were building the playboy mansion I MIGHT understand the need to do this in artist sence. This however has nothing to do with any of their builds. I'm done giving this BS free press. I am no longer interested in their next build either.
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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
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04-04-2005 12:49
From: Alexa Hope I am intrigued as to why they did this. Can anyone cast any light on the reasons?
Alexa Well, a five page thread and who knows how many hits to the site... seems kinda obvious to me.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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04-04-2005 12:52
Can anyone give me the current knot count ? I didn't bother keeping track as I couldn't see through my tears of laughter.
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Jack Digeridoo
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04-04-2005 12:55
That's just gross!!! You're all a bunch of dirty birdies!!
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Loki Pico
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04-04-2005 13:03
I spend all my time in SL. I look at these forums and go to an occasional fan site if someone links it. The only site I check with any (rare) frequency is Higbee's Parks and Recreation site. I guess people search out additional SL content on the web, I just spend most of my time in SL.
I wasnt harrassing you for posting the link, I simply was stating the fact that I would have never seen it otherwise.
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