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Leilany LaFollette
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07-28-2005 20:49
From: Chip Midnight
I'm not sure, but it does make ya wonder doesn't it?



Indeed... even creepier that I deleted all his PMs this morning (he sent me a few after stating he was willing to die...)! I need to clean my PM box more often :P


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Brac Westerburg
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07-28-2005 20:49
From: Zack Cline
Thats how it all started. I left There during Black Friday and hate myself for it. I look at how far they have come and the friends I left behind but can't bring myself to join again. Because I know i'd never be able to face people in There again.


From: Zack Cline
They are people full of passion and devotion for There. Did you know that I was in Second Life first? Yes, I went over to There during black friday and fell in love with it. But I moved to There a few months later... Second Life isn't as perfect as you might think.




So Zack, which one is the real truth ? and you wonder why people dislike you so much. All you do is lie & cause trouble.
Leilany LaFollette
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07-28-2005 20:52
From: Brac Westerburg
So Zack, which one is the real truth ? and you wonder why people dislike you so much. All you do is lie & cause trouble.


Brac... the truth is, he's a time traveller. Freddy the time traveller :rolleyes:


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Zack Cline
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07-28-2005 21:00
From: Brac Westerburg
So Zack, which one is the real truth ? and you wonder why people dislike you so much. All you do is lie & cause trouble.


The second one. The second one is true, are you happy? What do I do now? Nothing is going to change, people are gonna still say i'm a liar. Don't say wait cause I don't have time to wiait.

Evan and Chris are still going to stalk me though out the internet. Weather it be here or There or even in IMVU. People are going to be rude to me on the forums even if I am nice. Nothing is going to change, nothing is going to change.

I don't even know why I try any more. I try to help There be number one. I try to help There reach all it can be. All I wanted to do is help There I wanted to get to California in time but it was too late.

Well expect to see me at the RLG, cause i'm going to disprove all of you. I'll show up with my draft of Digital Evolution and even my PhD. I will laugh so hard and I will enjoy even minute you people scratch your heads.

I better bring a camra... Better yet a couple of friends to share the laugh with.
Enabran Templar
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07-28-2005 21:08
This thread has taken a turn for the weird.

The very weird. :eek:
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Lance Mirabeau
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07-28-2005 21:12
Sounds like someone needs to be comitted.
Cid Jacobs
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07-28-2005 21:17
I am utterly blown away after reading this thread in its entirety. :eek:
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Zack Cline
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07-28-2005 21:23
I'm known for my mind blowing threads.
Cid Jacobs
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07-28-2005 21:24
From: Zack Cline
I'm known for my mind blowing threads.

I didn't say mind blowing. ;)
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Brac Westerburg
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07-28-2005 21:31
From: Zack Cline
Well expect to see me at the RLG, cause i'm going to disprove all of you. I'll show up with my draft of Digital Evolution and even my PhD. I will laugh so hard and I will enjoy even minute you people scratch your heads.

I better bring a camra... Better yet a couple of friends to share the laugh with.





Also please remember to pack your Medication
Evan Bogart
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07-29-2005 06:29
From: Zack Cline
The second one. The second one is true, are you happy? What do I do now? Nothing is going to change, people are gonna still say i'm a liar. Don't say wait cause I don't have time to wiait.

Evan and Chris are still going to stalk me though out the internet. Weather it be here or There or even in IMVU. People are going to be rude to me on the forums even if I am nice. Nothing is going to change, nothing is going to change.

I don't even know why I try any more. I try to help There be number one. I try to help There reach all it can be. All I wanted to do is help There I wanted to get to California in time but it was too late.

Well expect to see me at the RLG, cause i'm going to disprove all of you. I'll show up with my draft of Digital Evolution and even my PhD. I will laugh so hard and I will enjoy even minute you people scratch your heads.

I better bring a camra... Better yet a couple of friends to share the laugh with.


There you go lying... again. You just admitted last week that your PhD was fake, now here you are again talking about it. You just don't get it do you? People don't care what you are as long as you are honest. You don't have to make yourself sound important to make people like you. As long as you are honest and likeable, people are not going to care if you have a PhD or flip hamburgers at McDonalds. That is what I and others have been trying to get you to see for a year now. You don't have to tell anyone online anything about the real you, but don't sit around making up outrageous things that people already know are not true. That turns them off, and makes them not want to be around you. Somewhere inside your twisted little head, you have to see that.

People are not stupid, and can see right through you, and even after you come clean, you continue with these lies, and then sit back acting all confused about why people avoid you. You come off looking insane rather than just some pitiful kid who has no social skills, and people have tried to help you by giving you genuine advise before they threw up their hands and said screw it.

You are not a victim here Joel, you have brought all of this on yourself so you cannot sit back and blame anyone. All you have to do is stop pushing peoples buttons and I think you would be surprised at how accepting they will become. Why don't you try actually fitting in for a change instead of forcing people to throw you outside the circle then you crying about it? I think you would find things are much more fun.

No one cares about the mythical There/Second Life war you have created. There people have their world, SL people have theirs, and some have both, and both worlds can co-exist just fine with each other so put a sock in it ok? Linden is not trying to drive There out of business, but you cannot blame Linden for reacting the way it did during There's "Black Friday", it is a business, just like any other business. No one in this world can honestly say that There, Inc. may not have done the same thing were it to have been Linden that stumbled. But that is called business, not corporate espionage.

I'm done with you this go-round Joel. See you wherever you surface next time. Ill be there waiting.
Colette Meiji
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07-29-2005 06:50
From: Lance Mirabeau
Sounds like someone needs to be comitted.



after reading how crazy this thread has got , im wondering if its me.

:eek:
Karilea Kuroda
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Join date: 22 Apr 2004
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07-29-2005 06:58
;) I wubs Evan and Brac :D

Oh and jb333 I thought he wasn't you??? :eek:

LOL Colette ya don't know the half of it :rolleyes:
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Brac Westerburg
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07-29-2005 07:00
Zack;

Last week in another forum after you where basically cornered about all the numerous lies, you admitted that you screwed up. You then did what I thought was a heart felt apology to everyone in that forum. You came clean on everything.

I even posted after this to you that it took a lot of guts to do what you did, by being honest and realizing you messed up. I honestly thought you meant what you said & after that was done, have even gone so far as to watch your back in other threads you posted in, when people goofed on you to try to get them to back off.

I didn’t know you from any other forum other then “There’s” forum, so when people told me what you where doing, I basically blew them off and figured, hey we all do stupid stuff sometimes. I honestly gave you a fair shot, however I see this was a major waste of my time. You keep saying one thing & doing another. You are right back to all the lying. Everyone deserves a second chance when they screw up, but dude you’ve gone beyond extra chances.

You truly do need to seek help with your compulsive lying issue, I am being serious here. You are doing a major disservice to your own self never mind to others, by not seeking professional help with your problem.
Colette Meiji
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07-29-2005 07:35
Sounds like compared to There ... SL doesnt even know forum drhama

=p
Karilea Kuroda
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07-29-2005 08:07
It's not all the time per say.....It kindda comes in waves. There's a high and low tide.

:rolleyes: Except for Joel dearest. He seems to start and attract it pretty much everytime he posts. A lot of people from There are pissed because he made other Thereians look moronic and desperate. We so do NOT want to be compared and likened to him. :mad:
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From dehumanization to arms production,
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Power, power, the law of the land,
Those living for death will die by their own hand,
Life's no ordeal if you come to terms,
Reject the system dictating the norms
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Evan Bogart
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07-29-2005 08:08
From: Colette Meiji
Sounds like compared to There ... SL doesnt even know forum drhama

=p


Nah, There's forums aren't that bad. I've seen much worse. Other than sporatic incidents, There's forums are pretty cool, just like the ones here. It's kinda the "One bad apple spoils the whole bunch" kinda thing.

In fact, it was amazing how kind the people in There's forums were to this guy until he finally just drove them over the edge until they had had enough. They gave him waaaay more chances than he deserved.
Chip Midnight
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07-29-2005 09:22
From: Evan Bogart
You just don't get it do you? People don't care what you are as long as you are honest. You don't have to make yourself sound important to make people like you. As long as you are honest and likeable, people are not going to care if you have a PhD or flip hamburgers at McDonalds. That is what I and others have been trying to get you to see for a year now.


Excellent advice.
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Coheed Gilman
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07-29-2005 09:26
what a friggin crackpot!
Schoktra Black
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07-29-2005 12:29
I'm going to say he has some sort of mental illness. Also a mix of serious depression which could lead to many different problems. I'm not sure if he could have multi personalities or what. I also searched the blowing up Linden Labs thread or post.

It was made by a member named Kool Zuma. I looked at a few of this posts and i'm thinking he once had multi personalities. The Kool Zuma had the knowledge of a 9 year old or so. Maybe this personalitie "grew up" and became the Zack Cline we know today.

I'd suggest he be watched. I'm scared for him because it would seem the depression evolved after abusive comments were made over and over. If that is the case he most likely would hurt himself.

It is hard to tell what is going on. The logical thing to do would be just try and ignore him. Watch him too, if he is seriously hurt again or something I think it would push him over. I'm trying to help and I think this person needs to be watched.

Try to limit the verbal abuse but I know it can be hard. Thats my opinion. I'll see what I can come up with, maybe I could ask on a mental health for or something. I'm worried for him and I want this person to be watched, closely.
Chip Midnight
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07-29-2005 12:50
From: Schoktra Black
It was made by a member named Kool Zuma. I looked at a few of this posts and i'm thinking he once had multi personalities. The Kool Zuma had the knowledge of a 9 year old or so. Maybe this personalitie "grew up" and became the Zack Cline we know today.


That was the name! I didn't have any luck finding the post with search. It might not be the same person. Zack just reminded me of that because of his over the top fervor for There. I don't want to tar him if it's not the same person.
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Schoktra Black
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07-29-2005 12:57
From: Chip Midnight
That was the name! I didn't have any luck finding the post with search. It might not be the same person. Zack just reminded me of that because of his over the top fervor for There. I don't want to tar him if it's not the same person.


I'm pretty sure they are the same person. As for personality, I just don't know. I think Zack is in serious need of help. Not just perfessional help but from friends and family as well. I suggest trying to find some people on his buddy list and alerting them.
Evan Bogart
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07-29-2005 14:07
Well, Joel admitted last year at the So There Forum that he was indeed Kool Zuma. At first, he kept saying someone stole his account, but after being cornered for the 15th time, he finally came clean. So yes. Same guy as Zach.
Jauani Wu
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07-29-2005 14:19
From: Zack Cline
Saps? Eh, I may have been driven out of There but your lucky I felt like downloading Second Life again. Those "saps" may of been cruel to me but they are good people. Oh and as for Jeffery Ventrella, not even someone as smart as him could fix the mess the Lindens have made.

If anyone is a sap, it must be you.


zack, i only mean to say that those poor people are suffering in a horrible world like There. it's wonderful that some SL residents have taken upon themselves the role of missionaries or messiahs even to lead them to a place like SL.

zack, it's you who is lucky you made the wise decision to download sl again! imagine the hideousnous of There, where you have to be a cartoon human only, and then the wonder of SL where you can be whatever you want! SL is truly the place to be and you should go bring the rest of your friends here to enjoy! maybe i'll help you recruit people for SL if you ask me nicely!
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Schoktra Black
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07-29-2005 14:27
From: Evan Bogart
Well, Joel admitted last year at the So There Forum that he was indeed Kool Zuma. At first, he kept saying someone stole his account, but after being cornered for the 15th time, he finally came clean. So yes. Same guy as Zach.


Could I have a link to some of his more strange posts? I've been searching on google and I think Zack or Joel may have ADD and multi personalities with a mix of depression. Which is an unhead of basicly.

So his case is strange but maybe older posts could tell me something. Maybe give me some of his lie posts and his comments on what he has done in the past. Maybe some regrets or something along those lines.
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