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Kevn Klein
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09-23-2005 10:16
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Har! I haven't heard the book-smarts-versus-practical-smarts platitude since the last time I watched Deliverance. ;)

~Ulrika~


Hmm, I must have struck a cord.
Seth Kanahoe
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09-23-2005 10:18
btw, I congratulate Ulrika for getting exactly what she wanted.

Why she wanted it, I have no idea. :)
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09-23-2005 10:27
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Squeal like a pig !!!!!!!!!!!!


It is really amusing to watch the twists and turns that these threads can take. We have talked about anti-intellectuals,pseudo-intellectuals, non-intellectuals, quasi-intellectuals, soccer moms, hockey dads, MILFs, misogynists, protestants, orgasms, hogs, SUVs, the show Weeds, Coyote Ugly, Luddites, morons, lowly peons, Ulrika's Snapzilla reign of terror, moral equivalency, Bill of Rights of Trolls, idiot savants, the MJW, anti-stupidity, post modernism, troglodytes, genies, Neualtenberg, the Exxon Valdez, the Drama Llama, Hillary Clinton, Charlie Brown, Neal Boortz, blondes, NASCAR dads, tripe, man on man action, misspelled terrorists, and David Hasslehoff.

Only in an Ulrika thread! Love you, Zugzug.
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09-23-2005 10:27
From: JackBurton Faulkland
Again you fail in your rebutle. Ask yourself this: "do all soccer moms play SL?". Of couse they dont. The point i made is that all three of these groups have something in common as stated before: "IDLE TIME". You chose to not talk about the other groups because it doesnt offend you. Still i must point out i didnt say "all soccer moms" or "all unemployed" or "all college students" because not all of these people play SL or have "IDLE TIME". I just said that these are the people who have the most time to platy SL.

You're debating with illogical people, Jack. That's why it will be endless.

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09-23-2005 10:29
From: Cocoanut Koala
You're debating with illogical people, Jack. That's why it will be endless.

coco


I know just bored at work lol
Lecktor Hannibal
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09-23-2005 10:30
From: Cristiano Midnight
It is really amusing to watch the twists and turns that these threads can take. We have talked about anti-intellectuals,pseudo-intellectuals, non-intellectuals, quasi-intellectuals, soccer moms, hockey dads, MILFs, misogynists, protestants, orgasms, hogs, SUVs, the show Weeds, Coyote Ugly, Luddites, morons, lowly peons, Ulrika's Snapzilla reign of terror, moral equivalency, Bill of Rights of Trolls, idiot savants, the MJW, anti-stupidity, post modernism, troglodytes, genies, Neualtenberg, the Exxon Valdez, the Drama Llama, Hillary Clinton, Charlie Brown, Neal Boortz, blondes, NASCAR dads, tripe, man on man action, misspelled terrorists, and David Hasslehoff.

Only in an Ulrika thread! Love you, Zugzug.

WTF NASCAR Dads?? I missed that. Now I am offended.
No


Not really. :p
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Seth Kanahoe
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09-23-2005 10:30
And beer, Cristiano, don't forget beer.

So...um... what was it we concluded?
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09-23-2005 10:30
From: Cocoanut Koala
You're debating with illogical people, Jack. That's why it will be endless.

coco


They are not illogical - if anything, they are hyperlogical - they will argue a point to its most miniscule conclusion to be right.
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-23-2005 10:30
From: Cristiano Midnight
No they don't all act alike. Though some of them act pretty naughty, have you ever seen that MILFhunter site? Also, Cocoanut bucks the trend as she is a softball mom, and does not drive a Land Rover.

Not only that, I don't consider soccer mom a pejorative whatsoever, any more than I think of "ballet dancer" or "stockbroker" an insult.

It is merely a descriptive. Or a broad category representing the work and occupation of a large segment of the population: the modern-day stay-at-home mom.

When in that is any insult? If someone SEES an insult in that, it means that person really doesn't think very much of the soccer mom him/herself.

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Lecktor Hannibal
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09-23-2005 10:31
From: Seth Kanahoe
And beer, Cristiano, don't forget beer.

So...um... what was it we concluded?

This thread was meaningless yet still wrought it's intended purpose ??
Just sayin'. :p
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09-23-2005 10:33
From: Cocoanut Koala
Not only that, I don't consider soccer mom a pejorative whatsoever, any more than I think of "ballet dancer" or "stockbroker" an insult.

It is merely a descriptive. Or a broad category representing the work and occupation of a large segment of the population: the modern-day stay-at-home mom.

When in that is any insult? If someone SEES an insult in that, it means that person really doesn't think very much of the soccer mom him/herself.

coco



Wow you hit the head of the nail with precision
Cocoanut Koala
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09-23-2005 10:35
From: Cristiano Midnight
They are not illogical - if anything, they are hyperlogical - they will argue a point to its most miniscule conclusion to be right.

So do I, Cristiano. I'm waiting for them to discover the next logical rebuttle to what I said in my last post, regarding a logical question, a weakness in the argument of my post, something I didn't yet cover. There is a flaw, and it is specific. Will they notice it? It will lead to my next response, if they notice it. And if they do, I will give my answer to that.

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Pendari Lorentz
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09-23-2005 10:35
From: Cocoanut Koala
Not only that, I don't consider soccer mom a pejorative whatsoever, any more than I think of "ballet dancer" or "stockbroker" an insult.

It is merely a descriptive. Or a broad category representing the work and occupation of a large segment of the population: the modern-day stay-at-home mom.

When in that is any insult? If someone SEES an insult in that, it means that person really doesn't think very much of the soccer mom him/herself.



Soccer Mom has come to be the derogatory term used for "Stay at Home Moms" who tend to be on the conservative side of issues. They are thought to be moms that will do anything to see their child excel, and their world be perfect. They are considered out of touch with real issues. Women who like to talk about "issues they could not possibly understand". They are the new doormat housewife that does what she is told and may as well be a ditz blonde.

**.. No offense to blondes meant in this statement. I'm only repeating what I have learned over the last almost 8 years (six of which were spent as a strictly stay at home mom)
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09-23-2005 10:36
From: Cocoanut Koala
You're debating with illogical people, Jack.


Thanks! Love you too! :rolleyes:
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09-23-2005 10:37
From: Pendari Lorentz
Soccer Mom has come to be the derogatory term used for "Stay at Home Moms" who tend to be on the conservative side of issues. They are thought to be moms that will do anything to see their child excel, and their world be perfect. They are considered out of touch with real issues. Women who like to talk about "issues they could not possibly understand". They are the new doormat housewife that does what she is told and may as well be a ditz blonde.

**.. No offense to blondes meant in this statement. I'm only repeating what I have learned over the last almost 8 years (six of which were spent as a strictly stay at home mom)


Umm...According to who?
Cocoanut Koala
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09-23-2005 10:38
I don't think so, Pendari. For one thing, soccer moms implies a certain level of affluence, thus education.

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Kevn Klein
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09-23-2005 10:39
The only reason "soccer-moms" has a bad connotations is...






































They voted for Bill Clinton! Sheesh :)
Seth Kanahoe
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09-23-2005 10:41
From: Cocoanut Koala
It is merely a descriptive.


A descriptive-pejorative, or a descriptive-positive? I mean, can we really say that anything is "merely descriptive", as in devoid of a textual meaning that cannot be deconstructed into a memetic agenda? Wasn't it Derrida who first determined the gender-directed quality of any second-order description of....

Just kidding, just kidding!
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09-23-2005 10:41
From: Pendari Lorentz
Soccer Mom has come to be the derogatory term used for "Stay at Home Moms" who tend to be on the conservative side of issues. They are thought to be moms that will do anything to see their child excel, and their world be perfect. They are considered out of touch with real issues. Women who like to talk about "issues they could not possibly understand". They are the new doormat housewife that does what she is told and may as well be a ditz blonde.


Yes, and it is a very valid stereotype. Have you ever read the literature from People For The American Way? Give it a look-see sometime. Those are Soccer Moms and Scout Leader Dads. It's exactly what the stereotype is presenting, and it's very real, and very valid. ("It doesn't matter that I don't have children in this school district, and have never actually read the book, put my name down for wanting Catcher In The Rye banned from our schools!";)

It isn't an insult to women, or to housewives, or to stay at home moms. It's an insult to a type of person who feels the need to butt their damn nose into everyone's business and try and 'fix' things that aren't broken and that often don't involve them anyway. But those people wouldn't see it as an insult, because they don't see anything wrong with trying to rule other peoples' lives and decide what's best for them.
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09-23-2005 10:43
From: Pendari Lorentz
Soccer Mom has come to be the derogatory term used for "Stay at Home Moms" who tend to be on the conservative side of issues. They are thought to be moms that will do anything to see their child excel, and their world be perfect. They are considered out of touch with real issues. Women who like to talk about "issues they could not possibly understand". They are the new doormat housewife that does what she is told and may as well be a ditz blonde.

**.. No offense to blondes meant in this statement. I'm only repeating what I have learned over the last almost 8 years (six of which were spent as a strictly stay at home mom)


If they are conservative, why did they vote for Bill Clinton?
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09-23-2005 10:43
From: Seth Kanahoe
Hey, just because I put a slice of lime in my Mexican working-man's beer doesn't mean I'm a self-proclaimed pretentious intellectual. Y'all come on down to the boulevard tomorrow night; I'll blow your Volvo away with my pickup truck. And then over burritoes (I'll buy) I'll blow your shallow libertarian arguments away with my deft powers of reason, evasion, and irrelevance, ya?

Then tomorrow - can you run a drill press? - I'll offer you a job.

Naw. ;)

I think I have the forum post criteria down pat. Nothing much in the first paragraph really applies to me and I don't need a job. But I can run a drill press so this must be about me.
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09-23-2005 10:48
I never thought my little post would get so much discussion. lol.
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09-23-2005 10:49
From: Kevn Klein
Jack,

I would suggest you ignore the insults. From the prospective of one who has read this entire thread, I can tell you, your reasoning is by far superior to the self-proclaimed intellectual. "Intellectuals" generally lack real life experience. They depend on book knowledge and what they were told by other so-called intellectuals.


Don't just ignore 'em, AR 'em.

Trust me, that there are people here would AR at even the smallest percieved slight. The only way to get such people to stop is to make sure they feel the pain.
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09-23-2005 10:57
Wow I've been reading all this crap and I must say, as a women I am offended by these two *edited*. First off by totally missing your point and making the soccer mom a bigger issues then need be they proved both your point and the dissolution that all it takes to be intelligent you must win spelling and grammar bees. So your the spelling bee champ. Great!!! Find this Girl a prize quick to shut her up please. The only defense she has is the ability to spell any idiot with spell check has the same ability sweetheart. If you would have actually read jacks original post he didn't single out women in anyway. It was an example. This would only be singling out soccer moms or women if everyone one that has the ridiculous idea that a on line game should be governed are women. Reading your so called intellectual responses to just jacks thread tells me that you don't posses the thought processing skills to come up with that idea on your own. You can't expect to start talking about a subject such as governing second life and not get opinion's from both sides. If you only want the one sided opinion don't post your opinion on forums for others to debate. Instead of arguing your point about governing SL and how is would be positive for all you have in turn proved jacks point at about yourself and made an ass of your self and offended strong minded women everywhere! So go spell and grammar check this hehehehe have fun.
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09-23-2005 11:02
From: JackBurton Faulkland
look urlika get her she didnt put a space in between those words. lol. Again the story is a true story. I used it to illistrate my point. I am not going to change it to not offend. By sitting here arguing with me on a forum you are showing how much idle time you have.


Ulrika is smart enough to have seen the ™ that I put after "soccermoms™".
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