Hilary Clinton is fine to call a bitch, but because you respect Condoleeza, those who call her a bitch are morally bankrupt?
tch! The rich bitch bitchin' 'bout da witches callin' bitches bitches!
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-10-2006 18:55
Hilary Clinton is fine to call a bitch, but because you respect Condoleeza, those who call her a bitch are morally bankrupt? tch! The rich bitch bitchin' 'bout da witches callin' bitches bitches! _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-10-2006 19:02
Without reading this thread - except for the title and Cristiano's post above - I will add my opinion. It's not fine to call either Hillary OR Condi a bitch, and whoever does so lacks civility. coco P.S. I looked back a bit in this thread, and it's safe to say this is why I stay out of threads like this. I can't believe the number of people who will call EVERYONE whose political beliefs aren't in line with their own bitches or worse. And believe it! Without even knowing the people! (Not just garnered from my brief perusal of this thread, but from looking in other threads similar.) Both Hillary and Condi are awesomely admirable women, whether you agree with their politics or not, and even whether or not you even hate their viewpoints. How can anyone with such certainty that their political views are correct have any friends? I mean, what do you do, ask everybody their politics first, then decide on friendship depending on the answer? Well stated. It is interesting that aggressiveness and strength of will is encouraged in men, and even being a complete ass is looked up with pride. The same traits in women are viewed as "being a bitch". I personally don't think Condoleeza or Hilary are bitches. I am sure individually, outside of politics, they are both warm and caring people. Politics however is all a game anymore, and both of those women play hardball in a field still dominated by men. That has a lot to do with their perception - it is a tough role they have to play. I have tremendous respect for both of them, even if I do not agree with the politics of Ms. Rice. I do think that generally with friendships, people do gravitate more to those who share similar views to their own. That is not always the case. Eboni and I have quite divergent views on a lot of things, and yet I have an incredible amount of respect for her. Letting politics (which in the end is just a meaningless game) get in the way of any friendship is just silly. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-10-2006 19:12
Well stated. It is interesting that aggressiveness and strength of will is encouraged in men, and even being a complete ass is looked up with pride. The same traits in women are viewed as "being a bitch". I personally don't think Condoleeza or Hilary are bitches. I am sure individually, outside of politics, they are both warm and caring people. Politics however is all a game anymore, and both of those women play hardball in a field still dominated by men. That has a lot to do with their perception - it is a tough role they have to play. I have tremendous respect for both of them, even if I do not agree with the politics of Ms. Rice. I do think that generally with friendships, people do gravitate more to those who share similar views to their own. That is not always the case. Eboni and I have quite divergent views on a lot of things, and yet I have an incredible amount of respect for her. Letting politics (which in the end is just a meaningless game) get in the way of any friendship is just silly. bitch. _____________________
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Creami Cannoli
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03-10-2006 19:18
bitch. Just so you know, I AR'd your morally bankrupt bitch ass. |
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That ASSHOLE Condi faces some truths
03-10-2006 19:20
... Second, she supports and works within a fascist regime of war-mongering idealogues. ... She's also a known liar, and arguably incompetant. Throw in whore for the oil-industry and you have someone I can easily call a "bitch". To be fair, she may well not be a bitch, which is more a personality type - rampant neoconnery, lies and deception don't necessarily mean that one is, personally speaking, bitchy. She may be a perfectly pleasant corporate-sponsored warmonger. I agree with all of the above myself and i would love to hear of a person more qualified that Condi of being called a bitch and why you think so. Please cite evidence... if you want to play games and talk about Condi's color, please start with Harry Belofontes comments... much more fertile trollbait and I guess when one is confronted with the truth, and the pillars of ones ideals are warped and twisted until one no longer knows why one tries to defend the indefensible, one might race bait to deny the truth how clever I wonder what is wrong with "Kiamet. Shut the fuck up you Jingoistic greedy automated moron" is something I would never want to be told, and I really truly hope that he (or anyone) never ever ever ever says that to me And Chip, sure hyperbole is fun to play with! And whether or not anyone agrees with he word "bitch", I have changed the title (reflected in this post only) to provide a gender nuetral PC insult so you republicans (of all races colors, religions, and disposition) won't be offended geeze, so sensitive about race and politically correct. I wonder why that is more interesting than the topic at hand you bunch of bleeding hearts ![]() _____________________
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-10-2006 19:21
Letting politics (which in the end is just a meaningless game) get in the way of any friendship is just silly. To mistake politics as a meaningless game is a big mistake. How can anyone with such certainty that their political views are correct have any friends? Remarkably pertinent question there Coco in so many different ways too, the irony isn't missed, even if it might not have been intentional. And yes, way too much bitchin' ![]() But I make no apologies for being a bitch myself! _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-10-2006 19:26
To mistake politics as a meaningless game is a big mistake. When people tell me to quit playing politics, I inform them that I am NOT playing. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-10-2006 19:30
To mistake politics as a meaningless game is a big mistake. Arguing endlessly over politics and not actually doing anything to affect real change is simply a game of mental masturbation and one-upmanship. It has no real meaning or purpose. _____________________
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-10-2006 19:36
Arguing endlessly over politics and not actually doing anything to affect real change is simply a game of mental masturbation and one-upmanship. It has no real meaning or purpose. Ok, just before I hit the sack, and to be serious for a moment, because I do really have some respect for my fellow SLers, arguing endlessly over politics is actually doing something and does affect real change. And yes it can be a game of mental masturbation and one-upmanship but there's nothing simple about politics in my experience. When the arguing stops the war starts. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-10-2006 20:11
When the arguing stops the war starts. Look how far arguing about the war has gotten us. _____________________
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03-10-2006 21:20
Look how far arguing about the war has gotten us. It's gotten us to a 37% approval rating for Mr. Bush. _____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
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03-10-2006 21:41
To mistake politics as a meaningless game is a big mistake. Remarkably pertinent question there Coco in so many different ways too, the irony isn't missed, even if it might not have been intentional. And yes, way too much bitchin' ![]() But I make no apologies for being a bitch myself! Irony? I think not. I have lots of friends, and we do not agree on politics, game or otherwise. I would say that in most cases, the shoe is quite on the other foot. Yours, for example, with that remark. coco _____________________
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-11-2006 04:10
Irony? I think not. I have lots of friends, and we do not agree on politics, game or otherwise. I would say that in most cases, the shoe is quite on the other foot. Yours, for example, with that remark. coco Sounds like this is a result of thinking my post was a personal attack. It wasn't aimed you or any other individual and I'm sorry if you thought it was. How can anyone with such certainty that their political views are correct have any friends? I said it was pertinent and ironic. Am I the only one that sees the irony in this comment ? If so I admit to wearing 2 left shoes. And proud of it too. _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-11-2006 07:01
Look how far arguing about the war has gotten us. It's helped prolong the war because our commanders are having to fight a land war in Iraq and a PR war in the US against a press who has never met a war it did like...unless Bill Clinton was in office... It has served to demoralize the troops you're "supporting". It has served to energize the opposition, giving them the hope that if they just hold out a little longer the American Left will win the war for them just like it won the war for the Northern Vietnamese. (thanks, Hanoi Jane!) It's helped ignite more fires what with the constant barrage of Abu Ghraib pictures, and false allegations ala Newsweek. As I've said before, these arguments are so much for the participants as they are for the spectators. -Kiamat Dusk ...Gladiatorial Old Party... _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-11-2006 07:08
I wonder what is wrong with "Kiamet. Shut the fuck up you Jingoistic greedy automated moron" I note that you have yet to spell my name correctly. Clearly these "typos" are pruposeful and systematic. As everyone knows, purposely misspelling a person's name is an age old tactic of racists. Both WAR and the KKK use this tactic to dehumanize people of other races making it easier to hate them. I mean...you couldn't be so stupid as to be unable to string 6 letters together correctly. I also note that the only two people getting flamed in this thread are the blacks while everyone else is patting each other on the back. -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Richie Waves
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03-11-2006 07:16
So a black woman scrapes her way up from poverty, gets an education and makes something of herself and that makes her a bitch? You're clearly a racist and your negrophobic rants are not welcome in these forums. -Kiamat Dusk 1. troll One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-11-2006 07:16
It's helped prolong the war because our commanders are having to fight a land war in Iraq and a PR war in the US against a press who has never met a war it did like...unless Bill Clinton was in office... It has served to demoralize the troops you're "supporting". It has served to energize the opposition, giving them the hope that if they just hold out a little longer the American Left will win the war for them just like it won the war for the Northern Vietnamese. (thanks, Hanoi Jane!) It's helped ignite more fires what with the constant barrage of Abu Ghraib pictures, and false allegations ala Newsweek. As I've said before, these arguments are so much for the participants as they are for the spectators. -Kiamat Dusk ...Gladiatorial Old Party... Why do you hate freedom? _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-11-2006 07:19
I note that you have yet to spell my name correctly. Clearly these "typos" are pruposeful and systematic. As everyone knows, purposely misspelling a person's name is an age old tactic of racists. Both WAR and the KKK use this tactic to dehumanize people of other races making it easier to hate them. I mean...you couldn't be so stupid as to be unable to string 6 letters together correctly. I also note that the only two people getting flamed in this thread are the blacks while everyone else is patting each other on the back. -Kiamat Dusk ![]() It's all you have left anyways. BTW why do you assume you and Eboni are the only "blacks". _____________________
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Ranma Tardis
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03-11-2006 07:19
You are RUDE! Like I wrote before using words like this means you are losing. |
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-11-2006 07:21
Why do you hate freedom? I don't hate freedom. In fact I love it. I love it so much that I want to invade other countries, topple their governments, and give them freedom for free with the purchase of every McDonald's value meal! The question is...why do you hate McDonald's!? And Ritchie, you are way late. -Kiamat Dusk ...likes his freedom super sized... _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-11-2006 07:22
You are RUDE! Like I wrote before using words like this means you are losing. And we've gotten sooooooo far by being polite in the past...sorry, but you have no idea what's happening to my country and no idea how best for the left to succeed here. It's time we on the left ripped the fascists a new arsehole and helped the Republicans get their party back so things can go back to normal. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-11-2006 07:23
I don't hate freedom. In fact I love it. I love it so much that I want to invade other countries, topple their governments, and give them freedom for free with the purchase of every McDonald's value meal! The question is...why do you hate McDonald's!? And Ritchie, you are way late. -Kiamat Dusk ...likes his freedom super sized... actually --I do hate McDonald's. you got me on that one. ![]() _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-11-2006 07:26
![]() It's all you have left anyways. BTW why do you assume you and Eboni are the only "blacks". I see your "race card" is the King of Spades. Interesting. Let's disect this, shall we? Kings, like the infamous street gang the LA Kings. So clearly you think all blacks are a bunch of gang banging thugs. That would explain your hatred of Condi. Oh, and spades? Do I really need to go here? I think I do. "Spade" is a common epithet used to refer to colored people. Speaking of colored people, looks like your true colors are shining through. And I never said that Eboni and I were the only blacks...just the only ones getting flamed by you evil, minority hating Liberals. -Kiamat Dusk ...K-I-A-M-A-T... _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-11-2006 07:32
I see your "race card" is the King of Spades. Interesting. Let's disect this, shall we? Kings, like the infamous street gang the LA Kings. So clearly you think all blacks are a bunch of gang banging thugs. That would explain your hatred of Condi. Oh, and spades? Do I really need to go here? I think I do. "Spade" is a common epithet used to refer to colored people. Speaking of colored people, looks like your true colors are shining through. And I never said that Eboni and I were the only blacks...just the only ones getting flamed by you evil, minority hating Liberals. -Kiamat Dusk ...K-I-A-M-A-T... actually it was just the only "race card" i could find in google images --but whatever floats yer boat, sweety. I don't HATE Condi. Never said I did. I'm simply apalled at her incompetance and obvious lack of care for those in need. But hey, I suppose a pair of strappy ferregamo sandals trumps thousands dying in NOLA --plus she had tickets to "Spamalot". Who was the National Security Advisor on 9/11/01 again? I forget --oh that's right --it was Condi. _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-11-2006 07:36
And we've gotten sooooooo far by being polite in the past...sorry, but you have no idea what's happening to my country and no idea how best for the left to succeed here. It's time we on the left ripped the fascists a new arsehole and helped the Republicans get their party back so things can go back to normal. Kendra, I think it's cute how every once in a while you'll throw something like this in the mix like you actually like Republicans or something. Let's get real for a second. Taking religion out of the picture let's see how the GOP's ideals compare with yours. GOP: Smaller Government Kendra: Socialized Health Care GOP: Lower taxes Kendra: Welath redistribution GOP: Privatized education Kendra: Pre-K indoctrination GOP: End of welfare Kendra: Wealth redistribution GOP: Hawkish on national defense Kendra: If we hug them, they'll stop murdering our citizens GOP: Law abiding citizens should have easy access to guns Kendra: Gun ownership=intent to murder GOP: America is the greatest nation on earth Kendra: Well, we're no Sweden, that's for sure. GOP: End affirmative action Kendra: But we can't expect minorities to make it on their own! And the list goes on and on. But you didn't really mean it anyway did you? -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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