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Thanks ACLU: War Memorial To Be Torn Down

Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2006 16:28
From: Kiamat Dusk
:eek: I really hope you mean the picture and not the ex...

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LMAO
Dude your link sucks like it don't work
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Champie Jack
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05-11-2006 16:28
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Hey Champie, post some pictures, will ya? Please? :)


I sure will..I'm leaving now. It will take ne about 20 mis to get there. Then home, download, etc.

Give me a few hours
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Zephria Zapata
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05-11-2006 16:28
From: Kiamat Dusk
Ummm....don't let it get around...but Christians believe in Satan, too. We just don't worship him. :cool:

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Bravo well said
Kendra Bancroft
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05-11-2006 16:28
From: Zephria Zapata
That such a Oximoron lol a Conservative Christian Vampire lol is there such a thing ... i dont think so ....

if you can find one please show me ...



okay.

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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2006 16:29
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okay.


Ok that made me laugh and spew. :mad: :D
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Kiamat Dusk
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05-11-2006 16:30
From: Lecktor Hannibal
LMAO
Dude your link sucks like it don't work



Whaaaa??? :confused: Works for me. :(

Try this one. http://profiles.yahoo.com/solodragon

Then jus click the pic.

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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2006 16:31
From: Kiamat Dusk
Whaaaa??? :confused: Works for me. :(

Try this one. http://profiles.yahoo.com/solodragon

Then jus click the pic.

-Kiamat Dusk
...so many pigeonholes, so little time...

Ok that works but demerits for using glamour shots :p
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Kiamat Dusk
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05-11-2006 16:35
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Ok that works but demerits for using glamour shots :p



Fine. FINE! How's this? Now stop hijacking my topic! Sheesh. That's Kendra's job. :D

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Zephria Zapata
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05-11-2006 16:48
From: Kendra Bancroft
okay.




lol there is a differece ... that a Republican .. They only suck the money away from us ..lol and Vampire suck Blood .....


OH!!! wait there is a close Comparion lol

Thats why there Approval rating is down to 31 %... lowest in a long time since Dwight D. Eisenhower which hit 28 % in his time ....
Lecktor Hannibal
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05-11-2006 16:49
From: Zephria Zapata
lol there is a differece ... that a Republican .. They only suck the money away from us ..lol and Vampire suck Blood .....


OH!!! wait there is a close Comparion lol

Thats why there Approval rating is down to 31 %... lowest in a long time since Dwight D. Eisenhower which hit 28 % in his time ....

I suggest you check the ratings of the likes of Kerry and Gore. Just sayin' ;)
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Kiamat Dusk
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05-11-2006 16:54
From: Zephria Zapata
lol there is a differece ... that a Republican .. They only suck the money away from us ..lol and Vampire suck Blood .....


OH!!! wait there is a close Comparion lol

Thats why there Approval rating is down to 31 %... lowest in a long time since Dwight D. Eisenhower which hit 28 % in his time ....



And yet the US economy is at an all time high and the stock market is close to breaking it's all time record. Meanwhile unemployment rates are at historical lows. Oh, and the Republicans just extended the tax cuts that let you *keep* more of your money.


You were saying?

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Kendra Bancroft
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05-11-2006 17:58
From: Kiamat Dusk
And yet the US economy is at an all time high and the stock market is close to breaking it's all time record. Meanwhile unemployment rates are at historical lows. Oh, and the Republicans just extended the tax cuts that let you *keep* more of your money.


You were saying?

-Kiamat Dusk


The Stock Market is not a great economic indicator. The US economy at the moment is on the knife's edge of going belly up. Your employment records don't take into account people who are under-employed or have just given up looking --The tax cuts won't help anyone who makes under 250K a year --which is most of us.
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05-11-2006 18:09
From: Kendra Bancroft
The Stock Market is not a great economic indicator. The US economy at the moment is on the knife's edge of going belly up. Your employment records don't take into account people who are under-employed or have just given up looking --The tax cuts won't help anyone who makes under 250K a year --which is most of us.



...but Socialism is going to save us all, huh, Kendra? You just won't be happy until we have our own Hugo Chavez or Evo Morales, or maybe even our own Fidel Castro.

The fact is, your unwavering negativity about anything done by this administration makes any statement you make in that regard more suspect than Michael Jackson in a pre-school. You're a Left wing zealot and you have about as much credibility on any topic pertaining to the accomplishments of the Bush administration as China has on human rights.

When are you gonna put your money where my hand is and redistribute some of that wealth? When I come visit New York, can I borrow the People's car and crash on the People's couch while I'm at it?

...but thanks for stopping by.

-Kiamat Dusk
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Champie Jack
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05-11-2006 18:18
All Right!

Kendra gets a smack down at the hand of Kiamat!

Take that you leftist freak!
Chip Midnight
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05-11-2006 18:24
From: Champie Jack
ps Chip, the memorial was originally constructed in 1913-14, rebuilt in 1930's(?), then again in 1954 when it was rebuilt and rededicated to fallen soldiers of the past 3 wars in which Americans fought.


What was it supposed to memorialize in the first place and what prompted the rededication? Well intentioned or not it's inappropriate and it should be removed. If people want to honor the war dead they can do so without violating the constitution or casting non-Christian soldiers as second class citizens.
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05-11-2006 18:29
From: Kiamat Dusk
And yet the US economy is at an all time high and the stock market is close to breaking it's all time record.


Excellent. Then we should have no problem supplying everyone with healthcare and a living wage then... oh wait, we're also carrying the largest deficit in US history. I don't think Kendra is who you should be worrying about when China comes to collect.
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05-11-2006 18:31
From: Chip Midnight
What was it supposed to memorialize in the first place and what prompted the rededication? Well intentioned or not it's inappropriate and it should be removed. If people want to honor the war dead they can do so without violating the constitution or casting non-Christian soldiers as second class citizens.



Aren't you the long haired, military hating, hippie? The fact that there is a cross here just gives you a free ride to piss on the service people you so despise. It's ok, Chip. You're among friends here. You can spew the vitriol. After all, the people honored in that memorial died to ensure you had the right to do so.

-Kiamat Dusk

PS: Thanks for the support, Champie, but with both Kendra and me being in the BDSM scene, the idea of me giving her a "smack down" just conjures an image too disturbing for sleep. And, while Kendra is a lot of things, few of them good, she is most certainly not a freak.
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Champie Jack
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05-11-2006 19:11
From: Kiamat Dusk

PS: Thanks for the support, Champie, but with both Kendra and me being in the BDSM scene, the idea of me giving her a "smack down" just conjures an image too disturbing for sleep. And, while Kendra is a lot of things, few of them good, she is most certainly not a freak.


I'm just calling them like I see them.

From: Chip Midnight

What was it supposed to memorialize in the first place and what prompted the rededication? Well intentioned or not it's inappropriate and it should be removed. If people want to honor the war dead they can do so without violating the constitution or casting non-Christian soldiers as second class citizens.


Chip, from what I just read, it seems that the cross didn't become a memorial until it was rebuilt in 1954 (after a wind storm destroyed the cross in 1952).

While it seems that proponents of the Cross agree that it violates the California constitution, attempts to sell the land have met with additional lawsuits about the legality of the sale. If the Federal government decides to make the memorial a national monument then it will not be subject to California contitutional judgements and will be allowed to remain as it is, but as a national monument.
Almarea Lumiere
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05-11-2006 19:15
What I don't get is why people think that the ACLU has Jedi mind powers.

You don't have a problem with the ACLU, you have a problem with the system of checks and balances established by the constitution.
Champie Jack
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05-11-2006 19:17
From: Almarea Lumiere
What I don't get is why people think that the ACLU has Jedi mind powers.

You don't have a problem with the ACLU, you have a problem with the system of checks and balances established by the constitution.


Can you elaborate?
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05-11-2006 19:24
From: Kiamat Dusk
Aren't you the long haired, military hating, hippie? The fact that there is a cross here just gives you a free ride to piss on the service people you so despise. It's ok, Chip. You're among friends here. You can spew the vitriol. After all, the people honored in that memorial died to ensure you had the right to do so.


I don't recall spewing any vitriol, but you seem to be doing a good job of it by yourself. I know it's a challenging concept how a Christian memorial might be offensive to non-Christian veterans or understand how it's already pissing on many servicemen, so I don't expect you to be able to keep up.
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05-11-2006 19:32
From: Champie Jack
Chip, from what I just read, it seems that the cross didn't become a memorial until it was rebuilt in 1954 (after a wind storm destroyed the cross in 1952).


So it was just a giant Christian territorial marker erected on state property? They probably turned it into a memorial in order to get federal funds to repair it. Seems like it's actually a memorial to Christian evangelism with honoring veterans tacked on as an afterthought. Classy. :p

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While it seems that proponents of the Cross agree that it violates the California constitution, attempts to sell the land have met with additional lawsuits about the legality of the sale.


I read a bit about that. They were trying to sell it with the stipulation that the buyer keep the cross which was also a constitutional violation.
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05-11-2006 23:58
From: Kiamat Dusk
...but Socialism is going to save us all, huh, Kendra? You just won't be happy until we have our own Hugo Chavez or Evo Morales, or maybe even our own Fidel Castro.

The fact is, your unwavering negativity about anything done by this administration makes any statement you make in that regard more suspect than Michael Jackson in a pre-school. You're a Left wing zealot and you have about as much credibility on any topic pertaining to the accomplishments of the Bush administration as China has on human rights.

When are you gonna put your money where my hand is and redistribute some of that wealth? When I come visit New York, can I borrow the People's car and crash on the People's couch while I'm at it?

...but thanks for stopping by.

-Kiamat Dusk



I'd actually be satisfied with having someone merely competant in the Whitehouse at this point. Hell -- Nixon looks better to me everyday.
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05-12-2006 03:40
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I'd actually be satisfied with having someone merely competant in the Whitehouse at this point. Hell -- Nixon looks better to me everyday.


I agree that a better conservative is the only way to get someone more competent.
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05-12-2006 03:46
From: Chip Midnight
I read a bit about that. They were trying to sell it with the stipulation that the buyer keep the cross which was also a constitutional violation.


Except the buyer wanted to keep the cross anyhow, so...
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