Except faggots and abortion. Evidently god is powerless over these things while immensly dissaproving of them.
I so get it.
I so get it.
ironic as well since as far as I know the abortion rate amongst faggots is 0%.
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03-05-2006 18:05
ironic as well since as far as I know the abortion rate amongst faggots is 0%. _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
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03-05-2006 19:38
No need to get emotional. "Andrew Cohen, editor of Horizon, commented: "I think that this poll represents our first introduction to the British public's views on this issue. "Most people would have expected the public to go for evolution theory, but it seems there are lots of people who appear to believe in an alternative theory for life's origins." When given a choice of three descriptions for the development of life on Earth, people were asked which one or ones they would like to see taught in science lessons in British schools: 44% said creationism should be included 41% intelligent design 69% wanted evolution as part of the science curriculum." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm Get over the fact Evolution is becoming less acceptable every day. A poll with a sample as small as 2000 persons isnt extensive enough to show any sort of facts Kevn, there are over five million people in London alone. The UK itself has a population of over 60 million in total. therefore this represents a sample of roughly 0.003% of the UKs population. hardly a definitave poll. _____________________
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Susie Boffin
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03-05-2006 20:15
The myth of evolution is clearly a religious belief for those who reject the notion of a creator. At least the majority of the British know it's a big lie. Have a nice day  Yes I worship daily at the Church of Evolution. _____________________
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-05-2006 20:24
The "Creature Comforts" series did a great episode on "where do we come from"
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Roxie Marten
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03-05-2006 20:31
I think it's the level of emotion some put into defending evolution that causes them to misinterpret what others are saying. The funny thing I was trying to defend evolution. Go figure  |
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-05-2006 20:43
OK. I can restate. The emotion is from having to defend the poor aimless folks that will fall victim to the constant stream of evildoers and their assumptions about the inner workings of the universe. The emotion is not from any failure in their logic or conviction.  Yes, that furthers my point. They are "protecting" weaker minds. People need them to tell them what to believe. It's just like the religious people at abortion clinics. They think they know whats true, and only want to help the weak minded people. I must say it again, the master of unintentional irony. (for those who don't recognise the photograph: it's Jim Jones...) _____________________
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Susie Boffin
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03-05-2006 20:44
Kevin why don't you just present your proof instead of starting these threads? I am getting a little weary of personal opinions without one shred of evidence to back them up.
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-05-2006 21:04
The goal is not to "win" any kind of debate. The goal is to keep the topic going as long as possible. This serves two purposes:
1. it keeps the issue in the forefront and allows you to make claims that it is highly contested and not a settled fact. 2. allows you to claim that the forums are controlled by those who want to opress you The method goes like this: 1. Claim that evolution is wrong and therefore ID is right 2. eventually you will get backed into two indefensible positions: a. disproving evolution does not prove anything about ID (see also FSM) b. ID is not a scientific theory (see note) 3. At this point start ignoring the evolution debate and say that its really about ID vs. abiogenesis 4. very shortly you will run into a problem: any posit of a creator will require either abiogenesis or the existance of a "god" for your creator race invalidating the claim that the theory is scientific. 5. once you run out of steam on this point the thread is essentially over, unless you can manage to swing the thread back to #1 (this is quite doable if those who disproved you have since left the thread.) Tactics: 1. quibble: nothing drags things out like arguing defininitions 2. demand extraordinary proof from your opponents 3. never provide an actual position for yourself 4. ignore points that are inconvenient to you 5. inflate trivial posts by complaining how irrelevant they are 6. recycle arguments that have already been disproven and pretend that you didn't know 7. Change the rules when questioned. (i.e. say something is your opinion when you posted it as fact and that from now on, everything else you say is only your opinion unless you say it's a fact.) 8. Change criteria for what you are requesting continuously. In science, a body of descriptions of knowledge is usually only called a theory once it has a firm empirical basis, i.e., it 1. is consistent with pre-existing theory to the extent that the pre-existing theory was experimentally verified, though it will often show pre-existing theory to be wrong in an exact sense, 2. is supported by many strands of evidence rather than a single foundation, ensuring that it probably is a good approximation if not totally correct, 3. makes predictions that might someday be used to disprove the theory, 4. is tentative, correctable and dynamic, in allowing for changes to be made as new data is discovered, rather than asserting certainty, and 5. is the most parsimonious explanation, sparing in proposed entities or explanations, commonly referred to as passing Ockham's razor. This is true of such established theories as special and general relativity, quantum mechanics, plate tectonics, evolution, etc. Theories considered scientific meet at least most, but ideally all, of the above criteria. The fewer which are matched, the less scientific it is; those that meet only several or none at all, cannot be said to be scientific in any meaningful sense of the word. _____________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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03-05-2006 21:15
I think it's the level of emotion some put into defending evolution that causes them to misinterpret what others are saying. I noticed you did not reply to any of my post...Very Interesting |
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Einsman Schlegel
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03-05-2006 21:27
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... blah?
Blah blah blah.. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.... Blah Blah? Blah! Blah blah blah blah blah Apes.. Blah Blah.. Blah! Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.. Blah blah blah Blah Blah blah blah? Blah Blah blah.... Evolution.. Something something blah blah. |
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03-05-2006 21:41
The goal is not to "win" any kind of debate. The goal is to keep the topic going as long as possible. This serves two purposes: 1. it keeps the issue in the forefront and allows you to make claims that it is highly contested and not a settled fact. 2. allows you to claim that the forums are controlled by those who want to opress you The method goes like this: 1. Claim that evolution is wrong and therefore ID is right 2. eventually you will get backed into two indefensible positions: a. disproving evolution does not prove anything about ID (see also FSM) b. ID is not a scientific theory (see note) 3. At this point start ignoring the evolution debate and say that its really about ID vs. abiogenesis 4. very shortly you will run into a problem: any posit of a creator will require either abiogenesis or the existance of a "god" for your creator race invalidating the claim that the theory is scientific. 5. once you run out of steam on this point the thread is essentially over, unless you can manage to swing the thread back to #1 (this is quite doable if those who disproved you have since left the thread.) Tactics: 1. quibble: nothing drags things out like arguing defininitions 2. demand extraordinary proof from your opponents 3. never provide an actual position for yourself 4. ignore points that are inconvenient to you 5. inflate trivial posts by complaining how irrelevant they are 6. recycle arguments that have already been disproven and pretend that you didn't know you forgot Tactic 7: Change the rules when questioned. (i.e. say something is your opinion when you posted it as fact and that from now on, everything else you say is only your opinion unless you say it's a fact.) Tactic 8: Change criteria for what you are requesting continuously. *giggles hysterically* _____________________
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03-05-2006 23:48
Excuse me if someone else mentioned this, but I just have to point it out anyway. I didn't bother reading through the dreck of replies. Then the thread died for awhile. Then someone necro posted into it because Kevn went and started ANOTHER thread on essentially the same topic without addressing the continuing lack of merit in what he is attempting to present. Holy crap I can just quote myself we've been through this so many times now without anything being added! |
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03-06-2006 03:23
The funny thing I was trying to defend evolution. Go figure And the funnier thing is that evolution doesn't need defending from a god. That sort of defeats the whole purpose. _____________________
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03-06-2006 03:44
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Tod69 Talamasca
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03-06-2006 03:55
Awww, Not this shit again!!! Geesh, ID Lost, deal with it. Next thing ya know you'll be wanting us to give up medical science & pray for a life-ending affliction to be cured by God.
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-06-2006 04:52
you forgot Tactic 7: Change the rules when questioned. (i.e. say something is your opinion when you posted it as fact and that from now on, everything else you say is only your opinion unless you say it's a fact.) Tactic 8: Change criteria for what you are requesting continuously. *giggles hysterically* Fixed it, thanks Joy. _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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03-06-2006 07:45
A poll with a sample as small as 2000 persons isnt extensive enough to show any sort of facts Kevn, there are over five million people in London alone. The UK itself has a population of over 60 million in total. therefore this represents a sample of roughly 0.003% of the UKs population. hardly a definitave poll. Polls of 2000 are very accurate, we use that size poll for 250 million people in the USA and it's accurate within 3.5+/- point. |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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03-06-2006 07:46
Polls of 2000 are very accurate, we use that size poll for 250 million people in the USA and it's accurate within 3.5+/- point. No wonder America is fucked then... _____________________
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Taco Rubio
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03-06-2006 07:48
Polls of 2000 are very accurate, we use that size poll for 250 million people in the USA and it's accurate within 3.5+/- point. Which group(s) of 45 million are you not considering human to get 250,000,000 ? _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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03-06-2006 07:57
I noticed you did not reply to any of my post...Very Interesting Which post? This one?.... Total Hogwash Typical Fundamentalist hit and run troll tactics on forums. The Law of Evolution is very proven. Live with it. Or the ones where you attack fundamentalists in other ways? When you post something that has to do with the thread, I'll respond, if the point requires a response. k? |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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03-06-2006 07:58
Actually, the title of this thread is a misnomer on many levels, as the by far largest Christian organisation in the world (the Catholic Church) acknowledges that evolution is a fact.
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Kevn Klein
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03-06-2006 08:01
No wonder America is fucked then... The same applies everywhere, I guess the UK is just as bad. Polls are done scientifically, using statistics to select the correct number of people from each group. By your logic everyone in the country would have to answer the poll for the poll to be considered correct. |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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03-06-2006 08:04
Actually Kevn, it just shows how fallacious polls are, in the last US election, several post voting polls were taken, a sample of far more than 2000, and they seemed to indicate a democrat victory.
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Kevn Klein
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03-06-2006 08:06
Actually, the title of this thread is a misnomer on many levels, as the by far largest Christian organisation in the world (the Catholic Church) acknowledges that evolution is a fact. Also Evolution is not a myth. Properly the thread should be titled "Evolution, definately not a myth, and even supported by the catholic church" The Catholic church, along with most people, agree that animals adapt. Adaptation isn't what the evolutionists support. The Catholic church does not accept the notion life originated without God. So if you want to use that religion to support your belief, follow them to their conclusion God created all life. |
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Taco Rubio
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03-06-2006 08:06
Which group(s) of 45 million are you not considering human to get 250,000,000 ? One would think when trying to express the accuracy of statistics in polls, one would use accurate numbers in a provided example. Going to address this Kevn, or just ignore it? _____________________
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