Evolution, a myth for non-theists

please link to one of these textbooks.

How far under 25? If the poll was of say middle-school children and pre pubescents --then the results would seem about right to me.

Perhaps once they go to University they will unlearn the crap people like you fill their heads with and they can learn to think for themselves.

"This really says something about the role of science education in this country and begs us to question how we are teaching evolutionary theory," Andrew Cohen added.

By this he means, Evolution Theory is being taught inadequately if these dumbasees don't see it as fact.

Hang on, what am I doing getting drawn into this? I only stopped by to make a quip.

*unsubscribes*

Here's a valium and relax. I should of been more clear. I was speaking of those people like the Creation Science crowd and the fundies who storm the school board every time Darwin's name is mentioned. I find they limit what G_D can and can not do. I find the evolution camp to expand the what G_D can do. I do not see conflict between creation and evolution.

I don't think you get it. Not every one who belives in G_D is anti evolution.

Pax

Rox

I think it's wonderful that you believe in G-D. Your post, however, seemed to be a plea that those of us who know Evolution to be fact have no reason to to not embrace this lofty mythical concept.

I do have, however, reasons to not embrace the sky-king or whatever one wishes to call it.
My spirit has evolved beyond the need for a primitive superstition to explain the wonders of nature.

Selectively quote much, Der? The next bit reads "We now have no idea what people under 25 think, so you can make of the correction what you will. There's not a lot of intelligent design in there, we reckon."

Which is Brit-speak for "we don't put much faith in the results of a survey performed by a private marketing firm under hire by an intentionally controversial television show".

But then again, you barely understand American, so I am surprised not at all you have trouble understanding foreign idiom.

Wanna show us some real data? Of course not.

Oh by the way, according to a People Magazine Survey, Jude Law is the sexiest man alive, beating out Jesus by like a zillion points. Must be fact.

No no no. not what I mean at all. What bugs me is when I get the foaming at the mouth anti evolution people telling me that G_D could never use such a system to create the world.
To me that is trying to limit the scope of G_D. I am perfectly fine if someone does not want to believe as I do. It would be a dreadful world to live in, if we all were in a stepford lock step of agreement on everything.

Rox

Leave Rox alone, she only believes what I tell her to

One of the most interesting things I heard about Creation was pointed out to me by a rabbi who taught our world religion class my freshman year in college. And this was so long ago he might have had first-hand knowledge Anyway, he pointed out that there are two Creation stories included in the first chapters of Genesis. If the Bible can't even agree on a Creation story, how are the Creationists so sure they got it right?

Oh, I get it.

Anything that happens in the world can be attributed to your god. As such he exists and then can be used as a rationale for placing judgement in other areas.

I might have been born yesterday but I still went shopping.

Yeah riiiiight. Like Jonah who lived for days in the belly of a whale, or turning into a pillar of salt for looking back....... Now those are real lies.

Neehai, did you even read her post? She didn't attack you. What gives?

I think it's the level of emotion some put into defending evolution that causes them to misinterpret what others are saying.

"The Royal Society has spoken out against the increasingly vocal UK creationism lobby, which it says seems to be gaining a foothold amongst university and college students.

Apparently, “the vast majority” of students at one London sixth-form centre are now fully paid-up members of the Adam and Eve club.

Royal Society vice-president Professor David Read told The Guardian: “Our education system should withstand attempts to withhold or misrepresent this knowledge in order to promote particular beliefs, religious or otherwise.”

I decided to run an experiment in SL to end this debate once and for all.
My control group of 0.5m plywood cubes have yet to evolve on their own, but my scripted Flying Spagetti Monster has been able to create cubes that change colours, fly around in the air, and occasionly demonstrate super powers which they use to torment their fellow cubes.

People are not so much putting emotion into defending evolution in this forum anymore. They are emotional about your need to start these threads over and over again.

As I explained earlier, none of us exist. I can show you a very nice poll that proves this to be absolute fact. I won't bother, though, because it isn't important to me to force people I don't know to believe something they don't care to believe in.

Gabe, what is it that is forcing them to read threads they hate?

I don't demand or issue orders on what is fair to bring up. I don't cower to those who would tell me what to post. So, the only option they have is to ignore threads they dislike, or complain.

The truth is, some people do get emotional when defending evolution, just as some get emotional defending their religion. That's why I say evolution is a tenet of an anti-God religion.

Did the script evolve on its own?

you attempted the "emotional" argument in your abortion thread. It didn't work there either.

No, the FSM created them. I think your emotion is causing you to overreact and misinterpret his post. He is supporting creationism.

OK. I can restate. The emotion is from having to defend the poor aimless folks that will fall victim to the constant stream of evildoers and their assumptions about the inner workings of the universe. The emotion is not from any failure in their logic or conviction.

I know he is, we already know the script was created by intelligence. It was rhetorical, but ty anyhow.

Yes, that furthers my point. They are "protecting" weaker minds. People need them to tell them what to believe. It's just like the religious people at abortion clinics. They think they know whats true, and only want to help the weak minded people.

This is why so many priests and ministers are sexual predators.

I didn't attack anyone nor did I get emotional over the issue.

I find it terribly convenient that there is a religion about an all powerful and all knowing god who can do anything and fit into any situation.

From Super Bowls, to Academy Awards, to Floods, to Hurricanes, to Evolution. It was all a part of the super god's plan. I would dare anyone to find anything this super being didn't create, condone or decide.

When you create a being that powerful to work for something, you also create a being that powerful to work against something. So yes, god could have orchestrated evolution in much the same way he orchestrated this years Super Bowl. After all, nothing happen in god's world without him being a part of it.

Except faggots and abortion. Evidently god is powerless over these things while immensly dissaproving of them.

I so get it.