Evolution, a myth for non-theists

Once he's finished demeaning women, calling us all murderers, and after he tries to distract us with his magic tricks...

My high school Biology Grades clearly indicate I was not religious about evolution.

Well there isn't any so it can't be presented. However he could at least explain his own viewpoint in his own words.

If he did that this thread would have died out a long time ago....

It's a point he's attempted to cover in the past. His "logic" proceeds from the premise that atheism is a religion and that it requires faith to not believe in a God.

My understanding of the word religion is it usually requires theistic teachings, belief in supernatural powers, or being in a religious order. The most vague use of the word could be a cause, principal or activity one pursues with zeal or devotion (under which marathon events might also qualify I guess). Now if you want to go with 'organized religion' (which seems to be the benchmark separating cults and religions), then atheism is obviously neither a cult or religion. Would it be more convenient to arguements if we all just espoused the greatness of Odin? Or maybe Zeus? Or perhaps Old Testament God (who seems to approve abortions after birth)?

Don't forget his "logic" is unlike anybody elses. It makes absolutely no sense.

The dictionary doesn't have "weak" definitions. Because there are several uses of a word doesn't mean any of the uses are "weak". The dictionary does say "Religion means...A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. " and that isn't a "weak" definition.

If I wanted to use "organized religion" I would have said that.

Yup, just like when you wanted to discuss macroevolution, you said evolution?

Because everyone here knows what is in dispute. But for those of you who know, but insist on being obtuse, I'll spell it out for you every single time. But only for you at this point.

Where your biology teachers evolutionists?

Yes. I went to a good school, where they teach real science. They even taught the bible-in humanities.

Evolutionists believe in evolution. What did you think they would tell you concerning their beliefs?

There! There your biology teacher evolutionists!!

No, you really shouldn't assume that anybody knows what you're talking about or thinking about. If you want to discuss something specific, state it. Evolution includes both macro- AND microevolution. Deal with it. Don't accuse people of derailing your thread when they are talking about microevolution, and not macroevolution, when you started your thread with simply "evolution"

You should take a look in the mirror when you call somebody obtuse.

First off, yes they do have weak (broad) definitions because some definitions are not as precise (or defined) as others.

You seem to want to use the most broad or weakest definition. By that version of it, you can also say "athletics is religion". We can then modify any of your same said statements about atheism to athletics. So honestly, what IS your point when both are apparently religion to you?

So, it still remains to see what point you are attempting to make. If you have a point of view, I'd love to hear you explain it.

There are no weak definitions.

Yes, anything you do or believe with great devotion is a religion. You can make a religion out of anything if you are devout enough.

I dunno I was too busy skiing to be bothered to go to class really. You see, though, that its not so mach a matter of what I was taught that pits me against intelligent design, its that intelligent desing is simply flawed, not scientifically proveable, and does not meet the criteria for a scientific theory.

If somone cout provide a SCIENTIFIC alternative to evolution, then I would listen to it. Evolution is just the only game in the science world.

Sure you CAN --but your point is that atheists all DO make a religion of evolution.

Laughably ridiculous, but that is your point.

There are more broad definitions. The one you are attempting to use would make all athelticists appear to support the same things, when clearly they do not. Further, I am sure you know the difference between a hobby, job and a career. So if you'd like to be more specific about whom you are talking about, that might help us all.

Wrong, one can be active in sports or other activities without being devout.

Excuse me but haven't I seen you arguing very hard that evolution did not happen? That it is a myth?

So its not a myth for me. I don't 'believe' in evolution, I accept it as scientific fact. Therefore I evolved.

You do not accept evolution as scientific fact. Therefore you did not.

Hence, I evolved, you did not.

Oh do you find something degrading about that statement? Do you consider it derisive not to have evolved? How is that?

Either you were created, whole and um.. yeah -- perfect -- by God himself or you came to be you through an evolutionary process. If you are a product of God then there's nothing grade school, nothing derisive, about being told you did not evolve. Especially as it is, by your own words, a myth.

You can't have it both ways. Choose. Be consistent. Not that you've been so far but there's a first time for everything.

The theory of evolution (macro-evolution) is not scientific. There are no tests or experiments to falsify it. If you didn't even study it, what makes you think you have any clue either way?

Fixed.

Of course it's not scientific -- the concept of "macro-evolution"as YOU understand it is made up by ID imbeciles and creationist doofii.

Arguing with you is like boxing a wet noodle.