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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html
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Weedy Herbst
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06-08-2006 04:07
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Kiamat Dusk
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06-08-2006 04:10
Just woke up to the good news!!!!!
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Rude Prunes
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06-08-2006 04:23
Good news agreed, but I can't help to wonder who is waiting to replace him? Still seems business as usual with today seeing 13 people killed and 28 injured in a bomb on a Baghdad market.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 04:41
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Zarqawi was an invented Boogeyman to hide the fact that we haven't gotten Bin Laden. His death is irrelevant. He was a thug thriving on the chaos in Iraq that was created by Bush's bungling. He's not an Al-Quaida mastermind or any such bullshit that is going to be thrown our way from now till next week. Am I glad he's dead? Sure am. But it won't change a thing. Watch for the media replacement to show up soon. There will always be some bearded muslim for the US Corporate media to crow about. Certainly useful timing though. What with the atrocity in Haditha and all. _____________________
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Cindy Claveau
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06-08-2006 06:30
::::::yawn::::: Zarqawi was an invented Boogeyman to hide the fact that we haven't gotten Bin Laden. His death is irrelevant. He was a thug thriving on the chaos in Iraq that was created by Bush's bungling. He's not an Al-Quaida mastermind or any such bullshit that is going to be thrown our way from now till next week. Am I glad he's dead? Sure am. But it won't change a thing. Kendra, if you look at the history of Arab movements going all the way back to the Israeli War for Independence, it is the nature of the Tribal system that leaders definitely are of great importance to motivation, inspiration and organization. Groups have fallen apart in the past if one key leader died, entire army units have fled. Will that happen with Zarqawi? Doubtful, since he doesn't have ironclad command of all the insurgent forces in Iraq. But painful to their cause? Absolutely. His ties to Osama are well documented, even by captured letters written in his own hand. We have no idea how capable or charismatic his replacement might be. Chances are they won't be as good as he was -- and certainly they won't have his credentials with fellow terrorists. Certainly useful timing though. What with the atrocity in Haditha and all. Oh, I get it. Guilty until proven innocent. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 06:35
Kendra, if you look at the history of Arab movements going all the way back to the Israeli War for Independence, it is the nature of the Tribal system that leaders definitely are of great importance to motivation, inspiration and organization. Groups have fallen apart in the past if one key leader died, entire army units have fled. Will that happen with Zarqawi? Doubtful, since he doesn't have ironclad command of all the insurgent forces in Iraq. But painful to their cause? Absolutely. His ties to Osama are well documented, even by captured letters written in his own hand. We have no idea how capable or charismatic his replacement might be. Chances are they won't be as good as he was -- and certainly they won't have his credentials with fellow terrorists. Oh, I get it. Guilty until proven innocent. Ironic no? _____________________
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Cindy Claveau
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06-08-2006 06:45
Ironic no? What is ironic? We've seen videotape of Zarqawi wielding the knives that sawed off the heads of Nicholas Berg and Eugene Armstrong. It's how he earned the sobriquet "the Slaughtering Shiek" among his followers. He claimed responsibility for the triple-suicide bombing of the hotels in Jordan that killed 60 people, among many other atrocities. And lately he's been calling on Sunnis to kill Shiites trying to spark a civil war. No irony here. He's been video taped murdering and his own words admitted his guilt. He publicly declared his allegiance to Osama in 2004. To hint that perhaps he wasn't tied to al Qaeda, or that by some fluke he might actually be innocent is nothing short of an awe-inspiring polemical leap. _____________________
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Warda Kawabata
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06-08-2006 06:47
Am I the only one who feels there is a pattern of a 'major breakthrough' coming days after news of a US disaster or atrocity in Iraq, regular as clockwork?
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 06:50
Am I the only one who feels there is a pattern of a 'major breakthrough' coming days after news of a US disaster or atrocity in Iraq, regular as clockwork? Bingo! _____________________
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Ghoti Nyak
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06-08-2006 06:51
We have no idea how capable or charismatic his replacement might be. Chances are they won't be as good as he was -- and certainly they won't have his credentials with fellow terrorists. But maybe... just maybe he'll be able to WORK HIS GUN . -Ghoti _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 06:52
What is ironic? We've seen videotape of Zarqawi wielding the knives that sawed off the heads of Nicholas Berg and Eugene Armstrong. It's how he earned the sobriquet "the Slaughtering Shiek" among his followers. He claimed responsibility for the triple-suicide bombing of the hotels in Jordan that killed 60 people, among many other atrocities. And lately he's been calling on Sunnis to kill Shiites trying to spark a civil war. No irony here. He's been video taped murdering and his own words admitted his guilt. He publicly declared his allegiance to Osama in 2004. To hint that perhaps he wasn't tied to al Qaeda, or that by some fluke he might actually be innocent is nothing short of an awe-inspiring polemical leap. We've seen video tape of the atrocity in Haditha as well. Also I didn't say he wasn't tied to Al-Q --I said he wasn't by any means a "mastermind". He was a thug. Sorry that's all he ever was. His terrorism can't even be marginally compared to George Bush's. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 06:54
What is ironic? We've seen videotape of Zarqawi wielding the knives that sawed off the heads of Nicholas Berg and Eugene Armstrong. we've seen video tape of someone the CIA claims is Zarqawi sawing the head off a corpse. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-08-2006 06:54
Am I the only one who feels there is a pattern of a 'major breakthrough' coming days after news of a US disaster or atrocity in Iraq, regular as clockwork? yes and no, there is usually a breakthrough after a setback or whatever you want to call them. but then they aren't like clockwork either, there wasn't a disaster before we caught Saddom that i can think of. |
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Warda Kawabata
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06-08-2006 07:00
I believe it was shortly before Saddam was captured, there were a few too many news reports of gas pump prices being uncomfortably high.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-08-2006 07:07
I believe it was shortly before Saddam was captured, there were a few too many news reports of gas pump prices being uncomfortably high. i thought that was Katrina related, the prices where high due to damaged refineries and other equipment. I could be wrong though. |
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Cindy Claveau
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06-08-2006 07:15
We've seen video tape of the atrocity in Haditha as well. we've seen video tape of someone the CIA claims is Zarqawi sawing the head off a corpse. Kendra, your viewpoint isn't a secret around here but do you think you could be a bit more consistent? I'm sure -- just absolutely positive -- that you aren't saying that the Marines are guilty of anything before a trial hears the evidence. Am I right? I mean, that would be so out of character for you. ~cough~ It's an outrage to me that anyone would try to tie the death of an enemy war leader to the accusations against our own Marines. There is NO moral equivalency here at all. None. Start your own thread if you want to crucify our troops, ok? This is a classroom example of "non-sequitur argument". _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 07:19
Kendra, your viewpoint isn't a secret around here but do you think you could be a bit more consistent? I'm sure -- just absolutely positive -- that you aren't saying that the Marines are guilty of anything before a trial hears the evidence. Am I right? I mean, that would be so out of character for you. ~cough~ It's an outrage to me that anyone would try to tie the death of an enemy war leader to the accusations against our own Marines. There is NO moral equivalency here at all. None. Start your own thread if you want to crucify our troops, ok? This is a classroom example of "non-sequitur argument". I never said they were guilty. I was just hinting that the Zaquawi killing certainly takes Haditha out of the news. _____________________
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Cindy Claveau
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06-08-2006 07:21
I never said they were guilty. I was just hinting that the Zaquawi killing certainly takes Haditha out of the news. I hear black helicopters. Quick, everyone grab their Lithium and head for the shelter. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-08-2006 07:24
I hear black helicopters. Quick, everyone grab their Lithium and head for the shelter. ::: hrug:::: Enjoy your ignorance while you still can._____________________
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Colette Meiji
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06-08-2006 07:26
i always thought they shoudl paint yellow smilies on the black helecopters
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-08-2006 07:29
i always thought they shoudl paint yellow smilies on the black helecopters ![]() i think a biohazard symbol would be more appropriate, and then get the Yosimite Sam mud flaps for the landing gear |
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Eggy Lippmann
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06-08-2006 07:30
Terrorism is about a fundamentalist belief more than central organization. Killing prominent terrorists just serves to create martyrs and fuel the fire of hatred that burns in their hearts .
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Magnum Serpentine
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06-08-2006 07:36
I saw the picture and I believe that he has been dead several months now and they are just releasing the news today to gain Maximun impact in order to drive up Dictator Bush's sinking poll numbers. |
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Lorelei Patel
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06-08-2006 07:37
Terrorism is about a fundamentalist belief more than central organization. Killing prominent terrorists just serves to create martyrs and fuel the fire of hatred that burns in their hearts . That hatred is going to be there no matter what. Might as well kill 'em. _____________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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06-08-2006 07:38
Am I the only one who feels there is a pattern of a 'major breakthrough' coming days after news of a US disaster or atrocity in Iraq, regular as clockwork? Read my post above... I go a step further... As I said above I believe they killed him several months ago and was just waiting for a good day to release the news for Maximun impact. |