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Buhamut Bligh
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02-23-2006 12:01
From: Kevn Klein I would suggest the baby stay in the womb until the last possible minute, then be removed via c-section and treated as a premature baby. I knew you'd take that route. Goodjob, Doctor, you just killed the baby and drastically decreased the 14 year old's chances of living for waiting this long. If you had left the child in the 14 year old the 14 year old's body would have begun to slowly fail, but still lived long enough to for the child to stay in the womb and grow to a form that may actually survive. That "last minute" deal happened to be way too late to save the 14 year old and the baby was removed far too early. Nice one. But then, if you knew all this before making the decision, would you have made the same choice? |
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:06
From: Sally Rosebud So, how is a question about preventing abortion off-topic in this thread?
Do you support use of birth control (by both men & women)?
Do you support brutally honest sex education in schools, including usage of birth control, not only abstinence?
Do you support use of the morning after pill, which prevents the sperm from penetrating the egg?
These were my questions to you (except the last one which I just added) and have EVERYTHING to do with abortion. 1. Yes. 2. No. I also don't think they should teach children how to do drugs properly, just because most will do drugs. 3. I support any preconception method of birth control. The morning after pill is not one, it kills the fertilized egg by not allowing it to implant. |
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Buhamut Bligh
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02-23-2006 12:08
From: Kevn Klein 1. Yes.
2. No. I also don't think they should teach children how to do drugs properly, just because most will do drugs.
3. I support any preconception method of birth control. The morning after pill is not one, it kills the fertilized egg by not allowing it to implant. ...how is it a " fertilized egg" if the pill " prevents the sperm from penetrating the egg"? |
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Lorelei Patel
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02-23-2006 12:08
From: Kevn Klein 2. No. I also don't think they should teach children how to do drugs properly, just because most will do drugs.
Cool, let's not tell them about seat belts, either.
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:10
From: Buhamut Bligh ...how is it a "fertilized egg" if the pill "prevents the sperm from penetrating the egg"? The pill does NOT prevent the sperm from penetrating the egg, it prevents the fertilized egg from implanting into the wall of the uterus. |
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02-23-2006 12:12
From: Kevn Klein 3. I support any preconception method of birth control. The morning after pill is not one, it kills the fertilized egg by not allowing it to implant. Glad to see that you've got it all so neatly figured out. I suppose you'd therefore be willing to let an undifferentiated mass of protoplasm parasitise your body for 9 months because god said so, putz? (by the way, putz is a term of endearment  ) |
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:12
Oh, and one last question for you Kevn...
Are you against abortion for any reason?
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:13
From: Lorelei Patel Cool, let's not tell them about seat belts, either. Better yet, don't let them drive until they have a drivers license. |
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:14
From: Introvert Petunia Glad to see that you've got it all so neatly figured out. I suppose you'd therefore be willing to let an undifferentiated mass of protoplasm parasitise your body for 9 months because god said so, putz? (by the way, putz is a term of endearment ) I love you too, sweetie |
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Buhamut Bligh
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02-23-2006 12:14
From: Buhamut Bligh I knew you'd take that route. Goodjob, Doctor, you just killed the baby and drastically decreased the 14 year old's chances of living for waiting this long.
If you had left the child in the 14 year old the 14 year old's body would have begun to slowly fail, but still lived long enough to for the child to stay in the womb and grow to a form that may actually survive.
That "last minute" deal happened to be way too late to save the 14 year old and the baby was removed far too early. Nice one.
But then, if you knew all this before making the decision, would you have made the same choice? Ahem... |
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:14
Also, teaching kids sex eduction, is not teaching them how to have sex...
Teaches them what sex is and all the parts involved.
The consequences of having sex.
The diseases you could get by having sex.
And HOPEFULLY, ALL the ways you can avoid getting pregnant and contracting an STD.
Also, do you think D.A.R.E. teaches kids to do drugs?
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:15
From: Sally Rosebud Oh, and one last question for you Kevn...
Are you against abortion for any reason? I'm against allowing women power to kill another human for her convenience. |
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Buhamut Bligh
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02-23-2006 12:16
From: Kevn Klein I'm against allowing women power to kill another human for her life. Fixed. |
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:16
From: Kevn Klein I'm against allowing women power to kill another human for her convenience. It's a simple yes or no question Kevn
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Lorelei Patel
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02-23-2006 12:16
From: Kevn Klein Better yet, don't let them drive until they have a drivers license. Yes, because everyone knows teens aren't even passengers in cars until they get a drivers license. Do you ever stop to think before putting fingertip to keyboard?
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:18
From: Sally Rosebud Also, teaching kids sex eduction, is not teaching them how to have sex...
Teaches them what sex is.
The consequences of having sex.
The diseases you could get by having sex.
And HOPEFULLY, ALL the ways you can avoid getting pregnant and contracting an STD. Teaching how to avoid sex, because of the dangers, might be okay. |
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:21
Are you against abortion for any reason? A yes or no answer please.
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:21
From: Lorelei Patel Yes, because everyone knows teens aren't even passengers in cars until they get a drivers license. Do you ever stop to think before putting fingertip to keyboard? How does that compare to this argument? We teach children to buckle up in kindergarten already. Sex and riding in a car isn't even comparable. Apples and oranges... |
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Buhamut Bligh
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02-23-2006 12:23
From: Kevn Klein Teaching how to avoid sex, because of the dangers, might be okay. Say no. ... Wow! That was easy! Kevn, kids know how not to have sex. Kids want friends and fun and to feel like adults. Sex involves all this. You have to teach them WHY they want to avoid it. Otherwise you're talking to a brick wall. And even if you tell them every STD horror story there is, they're still going to do it. It's a battle you cannot win. Simply trying to hide the fact that contraceptives exist from them will NOT save any lives. |
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:23
From: Sally Rosebud Are you against abortion for any reason? A yes or no answer please. You must answer my question first, I answered all yours and you ignore mine, only to ask more, hoping to corner me. Do you or do you not support a woman's right to control her body? |
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Lecktor Hannibal
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02-23-2006 12:24
From: Kevn Klein You must answer my question first, I answered all yours and you ignore mine, only to ask more, hoping to corner me.
Do you or do you not support a woman's right to control her body? Dude, she answered you. From: Sally Rosebud Yes, I support a woman's right to what happens to her body.
Just as I would support a man's right to what happens to his body.
It is not my job to judge people for their desicions, but apparently, it is yours, considering your little rant about women who have abortions being sluts. Why are you being so obtuse?
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:26
TY Lecktor, was looking for the post myself! So, now it's your turn  btw, that is post #161
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Kevn Klein
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02-23-2006 12:30
From: Sally Rosebud TY Lecktor, was looking for the post myself! So, now it's your turn Okay, thank you. So you support a woman's right to abort her child at any time right up till birth, for any reason or no reason. That clears things up. Now, let me post my answer to you. If it can be proven absolutely that the only way to save the mother is to murder her child, I would allow a doctor to make that decision. I would never allow a woman the right to choose to kill her baby. It would have to be decided by several doctors. |
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Sally Rosebud
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02-23-2006 12:31
So is that a no? or a yes?
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Lecktor Hannibal
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02-23-2006 12:32
From: Kevn Klein Okay, thank you. So you support a woman's right to abort her child at any time right up till birth, for any reason or no reason. That clears things up. Now, let me post my answer to you. If it can be proven absolutely that the only way to save the mother is to murder her child, I would allow a doctor to make that decision. I would never allow a woman the right to choose to kill her baby. It would have to be decided by several doctors. Man you are strange. She totally did not say that.
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