All your womb are belong to us

No, kill the child rather than give it to a loving family. That's the trick, yeah.

So people put their children in foster care to decide if they are really wanted? That really sounds WAAAAAAAAAAAY OUT THERE. The majority, now I'm sure somebody can come up with figures if they researched, are placed in foster care because they are either being abused, their parents are neglecting them or are possibly in prison, or there are questions about the parents being fit to be parents. So that means some babies are placed in foster care, and may never be adopted. If there are no unwanted babies, why are there babies left in garbage cans and why are there babies killed by their own mothers or fathers? And some babies are unwanted, but kept by their parent(s) and treated quite poorly. Besides, you DID say CHILDREN in an earlier post.

The issue IS NOT about unwanted babies. It's about the right of every woman to end a pregnancy, for whatever reason it happens to be, in a SAFE environment. Can you not see that????????????

Let's paint a hypothetical, shall we?

Said 16-year-old is impregnated by her father and through your benighted leadership, is made to carry it to term. Having been treated like crap by everyone in her life that was supposed to care for and protect her, she thinks that finally she has a person in her life who will love her -- her baby. But guess what? Two years into it, she realizes she can't stand the crying, can't afford to feed it, and you know what? There are other things in life she'd rather do.

So, she puts the former baby, now 2-years-old, up for adoption. But *some* people are only interested in the cute, little newborns.

OK, Kevn, what's your move?

A family that is so loving they can love a baby not even born yet but not a two year old?

So, there it is... What the selfish American attitude is. "I want to have the right to kill my baby right up till the moment of birth." "I want to use abortion as a means of birth control for those night I get wasted at a bar, go home and spread my legs." "I want all the rights that come with freedom, but I reject any responsibility for my actions."

Well put Sally!

Dude, pregnancy as a punishment is a bad idea.

HAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAH. Oh my god, are you real? People like you exist?

Well anyway, Kevn, you've responded to my last message. How responding to my earlier one with the question about the 2-year-old who was put up for adoption after the mother was denied abortion and later realized she wasn't a good parent?

Read about the trauma women suffer after undergoing an abortion. http://www.trosch.org/pas/pas.html

When you have a uterus, you have a right to say what happens to it, so til then STFU kthxbai.

(and before you start attacking my moral fiber, I have never had an abortion, and I have 2 healthy kids that I raise alone)

OMG, did he just miss the point again??????????

WHERE DID I SAY THAT ABORTION IS TO BE USED AS BIRTH CONTROL OR A DESICION TO TAKE LIGHTLY???? Please, point that out.

So, Kevn, are you willing to support sex education in schools that teaches birth control other than abstinence? That is brutally honest with the students? Are you willing to allow women (and possibly men in the future) to take birth control, to prevent these pregnancies?
So far, arguing with you has been about as useful as arguing with a potato.

Oh my god.

I have to ask again, are you for real?

Of course it says that, it's a religious site. You people are frightening.

The Kevn doesn't respond to questions that his pastor hasn't given him talking points about and then bitches that others don't engage in reasonable debate.

Or, put more bluntly, acts as a provincial, intolerant, backwater, neolithic troll.

What a tool.

This is the last time I will address this. The point was made unwanted babies are everywhere with no one seeking to adopt. I countered that argument with proof there is no such thing as an unwanted baby in an adoption line. I will continue to ignore repeated attempts to side track that solid point with issues concerning adoption of non-babies, as it has nothing to do with abortion. Unless you are arguing to kill all unwanted non-babies in foster care or adoption lines.

Apparently Kevn does this quite often I hear.

The medical community at large does not recognize the existence of post-abortion syndrome.[1] It is not defined as psychiatric condition in the DSM-IV-TR or ICD-10, although abortion was included in a list of stressors that can lead to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)in the DSM-III-R in 1987. (wikipedia)


According to the PTSD Alliance, causes for PTSD could include (along with the risk of developing PTSD after the event):

- Rape (49 percent)
- Severe beating or physical assault (31.9 percent)
- Other sexual assault (23.7 percent)
- Serious accident or injury; for example, car or train accident (16.8 percent)
- Shooting or stabbing (15.4 percent)
- Sudden, unexpected death of family member or friend (14.3 percent)
- Child’s life-threatening illness (10.4 percent)
- Witness to killing or serious injury (7.3 percent)
- Natural disaster (3.8 percent)

Abortion didn't make the list.

Try http://www.abortionfacts.com/reardon/who_is_at_risk_of_pas.asp

There are usually exceptions made for rape victims. Note the headline said "in most cases".

Using abortion as birth control is wrong. If you want control over your body, you really need to learn how it works and use a condom or take the pill.

And before you ask - I'm not religious - I don't belive in god.

Are you deliberately trolling?

That link is also sponsored by a religous site.

Do you have anything that's scientific fact? or just notes passed to you from god?

Kevn only wants the newborn babies because they taste the best. 2 year olds are awfully stringy.

Cute! I offer third-party sites with no stake in the abortion debate and you reply with an anti-abortion site. Wow, wonder what they are going to say.

Your site is sponsored by an outfit known as Heritage House '76, which lists under its mission page, "The Precious Feet People - Saving Babies and Serving Families"

Find an unbiased site and maybe I'll take a look at it.

Please read back. No one is talking about using abortion as birth control.

This law does not allow an exception for rape victims.