Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?

pages ad pages later and still, no response from the Nerdy one re my question. Could it be Lewis old son that even you at your most incredably self rightous cant look all of us in the eyes and say that yes you beleive 6 million innocent jews were condemed to to eternal hellfire after dying at the hands of a twisted and evil regime of Hitlers Germany?

PLease Lewis I really want to hear what you beleive.

No, he's saying he doesn't like the self rightious attitude it's done with.

Aren't christians supposed to be humble?

And the freedom FROM religion is exactly what our rights are. For example, we are not supposed to have law or work related decisions cast upon us due to relegious beliefs.

I dont care as long as no one try to force any at/to me.. if it the church thing or gorean or politcis or..

I am a free will and will stay that as long as I can..


/Tina

This is a difficult subject to cover, and please bear with me whilst I try and answer.

Although of course the holocaust was a terrible thing, in this context it is actually irrelevant. Anyone who has consciously chosen to reject God is condemned, regardless of the way in which they died, who they are, or what their history/lifestyle may be.

Some think Hitler was a Christian and used it as justification for his actions. The KKK and other similar organisations claim to be Christian. It's easy to say you are a Christian, anyone can ... but the works will reflect the true standing. Ultimately God will judge us all.

By the way, if you were wondering why it took me 7 hours to respond, it's a little thing called sleep... you should try it one day

Lewis

I guess then it's a bit of both. But that includes the freedom to HAVE a religion - and that's the thing that many people are trying to surpress. Including, it appears, those who triggered the original poster to post here.

I can understand people's objection to forceful direct evangelism targetted towards them - but a simple comment on a game character profile is, essentially, harmless.

Lewis

so there you have it ladies and gentleman lewis just said becuase all those jews did not embrace HIS notion of what God is, and I say notion for which one of has documented proof, they are frying in eternal damnation.

That is the sickest most vile most evil thing I have heard anyone in there forums say. lewis I am sorry but you disgust me on personal level, you see you just condemed several of my family members to hell. I think you a racist biggoted self righteous pig. I urge all of you reading this to boycott Mr. Nerd his land his disco and what ever else he has.

I am personally appalled

Unbelieveable. You ask the question, then attack me for responding.

Nice way to twist my words. I haven't condemned ANYONE to anything... people choose to do so by their own actions of consciously rejecting God. People are responsible for their own actions, and if they don't like the consequences of them then they need to think seriously who is at fault. If you're a criminal and in court, you don't get to blame the police for catching you, you can only blame yourself for carrying out the crime. It's this lack of accountability that most people have these days, believing that they are free to do whatever they like without worrying about the consequences, that is the biggest problem. Regardless of the situation, only you can make the final decision as to how you handle it.



I think you need to go back to a dictionary and look up to see what a few words mean. Rejection of God is not limited to any one race or people group. Congratulations on sending this thread back down the same path as it was before it got locked previously, perhaps you need to step away from the computer for a bit if a few words on a message forum (that you chose to read) cause you to react in this way.

Incidently, I am pro-Israel.

Lewis

That's not surprising since the bible tell you that is where all the Jews are supposed to be when Jesus comes back.

Most Christians are pro-Israel, but for what I find to be disturbing reasons.

Argggghhhh!!! I said I wasnt' going to get into this any more. *sighs* But Lewis please look at your words and reflect for a moment. It is statements like this that make people need to turn away and not want to hear any more of what you have to say. I understand you have your beliefs and I respect your right to have them. Living in a situation in which I hold different beliefs than members of my own household, I of all people respect another's right to debate freely and to follow whatever path they choose.

But for the record, the jewish people never rejected God, they simply follow their own teachings wich are slightly contrary (in my view) to those held by another faith. I've re-read what you wrote and though I wanted to see something else in it, I think I'm seeing that you're saying that anyone who doesn't believe EXACTLY your version of God is doomed to eternity in hell. If that is what you're saying it is a very arrogant view in my opinion.

But ok even if that is what you believe, to tell someone that is hurtful and unnecessary. If someone's beloved grandmother passes away and at the funeral you ask, "was she a Christian?" If the answer is no, do you look her mourning grandchild in the eyes and say ..."oh well then I'm sorry, your grandmother is burning in hell for all time." Good lord I hope not!

WHATEVER teachings you believe and have the right to believe... as a human being you still have to respectful of the feelings of other human beings.

Based on what I am percieving your beliefs to be, allow me to suggest an alternative answer. "I don't know. It isn't my place to KNOW until I am there to see for myself. But I would hope and pray that they are in heaven because that is where I would like to be when it is my time. And at the same time I would pray that in this life or the afterlife, some justice is served against those who commited those atrocious crimes."

Anway just a suggestion Lewis that sometimes revealing the uglier truths of your beliefs have an impact on your audience that hurts your cause rather than helping it.

Now as for my own beliefs, I freely admit I have no clue. I don't know. Maybe there is a heaven and a hell, maybe there isn't. I am open to the possiblity that there may very well be a million possiblilities and I have no clue which is right or wrong or whether there is such a thing as right or wrong. So I live my life in a way I am comfortable with, I ensure by my actions that I can always sleep at night and look myself in the eye in the mirror in the morning and choose to condemn no one for whatever faith they choose to follow.

If this means that I will go to hell when I die then so be it. Maybe I'll just have to accept that when the time comes. Maybe I'll find my views changing at some point in the future, maybe I won't..... who knows. Today, I'm ok with it.

True... and if others had done just that to the original poster, this thread would never have arisen.

Lewis

Well yes, I'm fairly sure most of us agree on that. But after reading my entire post, thats all you got out of it?


Edit: Nevermind, forget I posted... I'm tired. Goodnight.

Considering its where our faith began, and it's a place of pilgrimage to many, it's not really surprising.

I did follow a 'Footsteps of Jesus' tour about 10 years ago, visiting a number of Biblical and historic sites all over Israel. Although of course some of the 'traditional sites' need to be taken with a pinch of salt, as we can't be entirely sure of the exact spot where certain things happened, it does certainly give a good impression of the atmosphere and the lifestyle in which Jesus was around.

Lewis

Just seemed the bit worth mentioning, the rest of it had been thrashed out many times already and didn't seem necessary to repeat.

Sleep well.

Lewis

Kinna like how almost every Christian holiday has nothing to do with a christian event that happened on that day, but are rather abstractly asigned to them to mask the fact that they are either just pagan holidays with a christian name, or named after a pagan god...

Well, of course, they don't.

Their particular religious affiliation depends on the society in which they live. If you had been born an Indian you would have been brought up probably to be Hindu or Buddhist, and Christianity would have had very little relevance. So much the worse for you, then. Indeed, there are places in the world where it is likely the people have never even heard of Christianity.

And your God condemns all these millions to hell? On the basis of geography?

No wonder I find this religion so repulsive.

Considering God created everything in the first place, I would rather see it as 'reclaiming' what is rightfully ours to celebrate.

The main Christian holidays are Easter and Christmas, and I'm sure regardless of your thoughts on the faith, you would gladly accept the time off your employer gives you on those days.

Lewis

Hence the importance of missionaries in making sure people do know. There is very little of the world that has not been reached by Christian missionaries and I am glad to be able to do my bit. Incidently, the internet is a great 'mission field' and the opportunities that are available to those who wish to take advantage of the potential are great. Even opportunities like this, where most people are hostile, are useful, and I am grateful for everyone here who has responded for their help.



Being confronted with the harsh reality that there is more to life than just our time on earth, and that our choices here on our brief one chance on this planet can affect our eternal destiny can make people feel uncomfortable, yes. You aren't the first, and I'm sure you won't be the last.

Lewis

Being confronted with the harsh reality that there isn't more to life than just our time on earth, and that our choices here on our brief one chance on this planet can't affect our eternal destiny can make people feel uncomfortable, yes. You aren't the first, and I'm sure you won't be the last.

Enough said

When you stand before God in judgement at the end of your life, I'm afraid that won't get you very far, and neither will "Nobody told me", because we have.

Every decision we make has consequences. Some short-term, some long term. Surely you can agree with that, even if you think that life just ceases to exist when we die?

Lewis

Didn't Jesus say, "Blessed are the sanctimonious pricks, for they shall pwn the thread"?

I can't say that I recall that particular quote. I do recall "the meek shall inherit the earth", and yes we are getting ready.

Lewis

That goes against religious doctrine on free will. Man created those holidays in his worship of Pagan gods. I'm sure you would "rather" see it that way, but that's not the case.



Christmas was Yule long before it was Christmas, and most indications are that whenever Christ WAS born, it was not in December, but rather probably sometime in early Autum, based on other stuff that was happening at the time.

Easter is a problematic quagmire of mixed origins, with roots possibly as far back as Sumeria, although the modern incarnation of it has little to do with whatever early rites it might have had.

And sure, of course I would. Not that you know what faith I am, but sure

The date isn't necessarily important, it's what we're celebrating that happens. Yes, it's probably some time in October, and about 4 years off, but that doesn't bother me.



The Easter I celebrate concerns the cruxifiction, death and resurrection of Jesus. I can't say I'm sure where chocolate eggs and rabbits came into it all though.



Doesn't matter to me what your faith may or may not be. To me, it's irrelevant. Anyone who has met me in world will find that I am actually not that bad a person. Several of my friends have lifestyles, faiths or whatever that I disagree with, but taking them just as a person we get on well. In-world, you'd be just another bunch of pixels wrapped around a wireframe, and I would treat you just like I would any other until I got upset or attacked.

Lewis

They aren't...quite a few or all three are Quakers .
Cali

I get Winter Solstice off, not christmas. I get Ostara off, not easter. And I don't get paid time off for Ostara.

No, I'd rather work those hours thank you.



Considering I don't follow your faith, its theft, not reclaiming.

Thou shalt not mock the Flying Spaghetti Monster! (ARRR)