Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?

I couldnt help but laugh at this - since you are being far from meek on this topic.

I would like to again point out that 500 years ago you could have been a spoksman for the inquisition, since you are using their talking points.

- specifically about the jews in the holocaust, which was the reasons given in Spain for the inquisition's mistreatment of jews there.

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I think Jesus during his life described in the bible was far more forgiving than those who followed after. And even he reportedly had his laspse of faith on the cross.

Again I think the point you Lewis, specifically, are missing - is its not your beleifs that are offending people. Its your urging that any and all of those who dont share them are going to hell.

People in an an enlightened society shouldnt be coercered into any thoughts or beleifs. And constantly pointing to the threat of of damnation in the hearafter is not an enlightened
arguement.

September is what I had always heard, based on the fact that the shepards were still living with their flocks at the time.



Eggs are a symbol of rebirth, that goes as far back as the ancient Chaldeans (Which have almost nothing to do with the Chaldaeic-Christian sect today except kinda the same basic geographic area), and were also featured in spring celebrations by the pre-Christian Armenians and Romans.

Chocolate rabbits are fucking tasty. Nuf said.

Yes, but I won't, and I think merely thinking that it might be true can scare you more than a whole eternity in hell would scare me...

Your heaven is much worse than your hell for me

I second that and add to the equation 1) everyone who existed before pre-Christian times and 2) people who exist outside of the realm of christianity meaning that there are completely unaware of its existence -- I remember reading about some far remote village in Siberia that didn't even know World War II happened so what about those people?

WOW I think I accurately called you out on being a BIGOT. Good to see that you are keeping up the good work.

I would like to point out that hating Christians and hating God are two different things.

The OP asks why most SL seem to hate Christians... Which is just one of many religions on our tiny world.


The above definition (dictionary.com) has no mention of any God anywhere in it... Religion is a structure that man came up with on his own, God didn't give us an instruction book we gave ourselves not just one instruction book, but several.

I see the common mistake made by people arguing one point or another, that mistake is thinking that your religion = God... It doesn't.

Analogy: There are a lot of recipes out there to make yummy food, not everyone enjoys the same kinds of foods or can eat the same kind as everyone else. So when I see a Christian thumping on their bible in an attempt to convert someone it's like trying to tell a vegan to eat meat, a waste of time and irritating to both parties.

So, God as food for the soul and you like yours prepared by the recipe in your cook book. To force it down someone's throat with no regard for their dietary concerns is just plain rude. Everyone has had something forced on them more than once in their lives *cough.taxes.cough*, so we all know how that feels don't we?

To address the OP I can only speculate as to why, and this is just a guess here but I think the feeling is that the majority of SLers are free thinkers... Question authority and don't tell me what to do.... Which looks like it boils down to definition number 5 and possibly definition number 1.

We could all be better off if we stopped making judgement calls on who's opinions are right or wrong and just accept them as opinions.

In closing I think Christians should try to be a little more Zen, this whole turning the other cheek thing is clearly not working out.

What is more shocking is that Linden Lab is allowing this hate retoric to keep perpetuating. His response sickened me. I wonder what our friends at the ADL would have to say about it.

Lewis, when you stand before the Flying Spaghetti Monster at the end of your life, I hope you bring something piratey. You've been told. No excuses.

I don't think the ADL would have any interest because my comments are not specifically anti-Jewish. In fact, I have nothing against the Jewish people in the slightest - rejecting Christ is, sadly, a comment that is shared by communities, races, people groups and every other category of person the world over.

Take a step back and look at your comment about 'hate rhetoric'. I'm seeing a lot more hate thrown at the Christians in this thread but that's being ignored. Perhaps some people need to realise that it takes two sides to make a debate - and so far, only one has resorted to profanities and personal attacks to somehow support their viewpoint.

I don't believe that my comments can be classed as 'hate rhetoric', they are merely my point of view, supported by Biblical evidence, and only cause objection because such challenges are unpopular.

Lewis

Meek? You?

As long as a fork and a jar of bolognese sauce are 'piratey', I should be ok.

Lewis

Not Christains - actually

You specifically.

And the sort of "Im right, your going to hell in a bucket" attitude that you are givng off. Any Hate towards any Christains would be limited to Christains who share similair a agressive attitude to which you are representing.

You should read what people are saying more carefully.

I'm sure the FSM will love the humor

As far as biblical evidence of anything..I'll need the bible proved fully accurate before I accept any of it.

Lewis pointed out that in his judgment scenario, God won't accept the excuse that "we didn't know", because Christendom has told us and we've chosen otherwise.

So technically, doesn't that mean that the Churches are literally participating in the wholesale slaughter of souls by telling everyone? As I recall, there's a passage that indicates that a person who has never heard their message is supposedly judged by their works. Considering even Christians will admit that, due to their message, "a lot of good people will go to hell" <sic>, isn't delivering the message accessory to murder?

On Ostara/Easter/Oestre, I get time off. This is nice, because it's not always on Sunday, and I normally have Sundays off. Federal law allows me to work a holiday I might normally have off in place of my own, but as Christian holidays are all bastardized Pagan holidays, it works itself out naturally. I actually get more days off, and yes, they're paid.

I get Samhain off, Ostara, Beltane, Midsummer, Lugnasadh, and Yule. Seems like I'm missing one....hrmm....anyways, what makes this extra nice is that some of these celebrations can be up to 4 days long. Since Paganism, and Wicca in particular, is a nationally recognized religion, it's against Federal law to deny me the time off. In exchange, I always take the rougher days, like working late the day before and after THanksgiving, etc.

The following icons are pagan symbols on Xtian holidays:

Icon - Xtian Holiday - Pagan Holiday - Pagan meaning

Rabbits/Bunnies - Easter - Ostara - Rebirth, particularly a female deity giving birth to a male one. Fertility.

Eggs - Easter - Ostara - Fertility, Rebirth

Yule Tree - Christmas - Yule - Life when surrounded by death. Healthy homes. Celebratory.

Yule Log - Christmas - Yule - Mostly just traditional. Original Yule Logs were actual logs filled with treats for children, like a pinata.

Purple Sash - Easter - Ostara - Purple is traditionally a color used to signify the intervention of a God or Goddess.

Jack o' Lantern - Hallowe'en - Samhain - While the actual face on the Jack o' Lantern comes from an old wives tale that jives with Christian mythology, the concept of pumpkins, wreaths, etc are traditional for Samhain. This is the day, for Pagans, where the veil between the living world and the ethereal is thinnest.

Wreath - Thanksgiving, Xmas - Samhain, Lugnasadh - A symbol of bounty and protection.

May Pole - "May Day" - Beltane - The May Pole has traditionally been a very tall pole with a rounded top. You can see where I'm going with this. It's actually a phallic symbol, since Beltane is a day for celebrating the coupling of man and woman, and sex in general. So if you let your children dance around a maypole, they're actually celebrating the power of a penis. For Pagans this isn't all that unusual, as sex isn't some evil or mysterious thing for us, but that should get a few people's golden calves who aren't.

Fish/Yoni - A code for "Christian" - A drawing of a vagina - Birth and rebirth. Many Pagan religions share in common the idea that the universe was born from God's womb. Tipped up on its "nose", the Yoni/Jesus Fish is identical to the outline of a view of a woman's vagina when she is in a birthing position, the tail being a crease in the upper thigh. This is partially a zoroastrian symbol, but other religions shared it, and a concept of "induction" or "rebirth" was often symbolized by laying someone down and passing them through a statue of a Yoni; literally, being born into the world again. Christians at the time were familiar with this practice, and used it as a way to indicate they were "reborn" in Christ to others. The use of the Fish symbol has never had anything to do with Jesus being a "fisher of men" or any other biblical event the church has tried to tie it to. Indeed, the Bible never really addresses, "why a fish?", but instead leaves assumption. Now you know.

I'm sure there are many more, I'm at work right now....brain isn't on full blast yet.

This is the exact sort of specious attitude that prompted persecution of Jews for the last thousand years -- by Christians. It's arrogant to claim that "Jews rejected Christ" when Judaism predates Christ by some 2-3,000 years. What anti-Semitic Christians neglect to realize is that YOUR scriptures have been tampered with -- altered to create the biggest myth mankind has ever seen. Altered to try to shoehorn your dead god into the prophecies that would affirm his godhood, prophecies written by the same Jews you persecute.

Don't be so disingenious. Any God who condemns his creation for living peaceful, caring lives simply because they belonged to the wrong religion is not a god I want any part of.

I am a big fan of Thomas Jefferson, who said "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Tom was a smart guy, and he despised the priesthood.


Not from me. Not from Flipper. Not from most of us who find your self-righteous arrogance repulsive. What you're hearing is energetic rejection and enthusiastic debate. But go right ahead, that martyr hat must be getting pretty worn right now.

Remember, this is the same kind of person that thinks allowing homosexuals to marry in Massachussetts was an attack on Christianity in, say, California.

I'm really glad that Jesus choose to rise every year on a different date based upon the lunar calendar. You do realize its people like you that annoy us about Christianity? Its not a religion for you - its an excuse for your craptastic behavior.

-Flip

I just hope he reads my post a couple lines up. I'm interested to see his opinion on the iconery.

Jesus loves you, Flip

hehehehe, I'm pretty sure J.C. and I would have gotten along pretty well! He seemed to have a lot of cool philosophical ideas. I wonder what he'd think of his legacy. Poor guy.

Regards,

-Flip

The biggest myth ever created is "God does not exist".

Where am I anti-semitic? Nowhere. I wish you'd stop making these things up.

Lewis

If you want to talk about that, make another thread.

Lewis

I don't use any of that in my worship, so sorry. I think you might be getting me confused with a Catholic.

Lewis

I am actually going to have to agree with Lewis here, though his delivery has not exactly been stellar and I can understand the reaction to it. If someone is devoutly Christian, as Lewis seems to be, part of the fundamental belief of Christianity is that only those who accept Jesus as their savior will get into heaven. If this is someone's belief system, then those who reject Jesus as their savior will not get into heaven. Jews, Muslims, Buddhists...any non-Christian. This is an indelible part of their beliefs. Spreading Christianity is also part of it - getting others to accept Jesus as their savior.

Understanding that, Lewis' expressions of his beliefs, however unsavory to those who do not share the same religious beliefs, are part of his religious faith. It is not based upon "hatred" - it is based on the belief that Jesus is the one true path to salvation. Personally, I think it is very rude to tell others they are "going to Hell". The aggressive spreading the word approach is also offensive to a lot of people, but it is again part of their religious beliefs.

Just to be clear, I am not saying that I support running around telling people they are going to hell and getting in their face to tell them about Jesus. On the contrary, I think part of tolerance needs to be respecting the religious views of others if you want your own respected. Lewis could certainly stand to ratchet down the rhetoric a few notches - it is not serving him well. Neither are the personal attacks against him, however, nor the posts mocking the religious beliefs of millions of people. The solution to fighting intolerance is not being equally intolerant.

As far as the original poster's point, lost so long ago, he has every right to have that in his profile, and should be left alone. Anyone who IMs him and bothers him about his profile should be abuse reported for harassment.

Jeeze that is O L D. Full of that blind faith aren't ya?

Briana Dawson