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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 07:24
From: Dale Glass
That's completely useless. A book that makes prediction in one page, and confirms it in the next chapter. Please point to some outside confirmation.


Actually some of those are hundreds of years apart, between prophecy and fulfilment.

From: Dale Glass

I'm pretty sure if you dig hard enough you can find a prediction for the flooding of New Orleans, but did anybody talk about it *before* it got flooded?


I think common sense dictates that when you build something below sea level, there is a high probability that it will flood at some point, when all that is holding the water back is a couple of high walls. Did you know New Orleans flooded in 1927? http://www.southbear.com/New_Orleans/Geography.html it's basically an accident waiting to happen, and http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html explains some more about its history

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Briana Dawson
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04-25-2006 07:26
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Ok, there is a line, and its a long ways back, Briana

Believe it what they are preaching or not, most missionaries in the modern era are good people honestly trying to help out. They don't deserve death for it, and it speaks worlds about you that you would find it amusing.


Awwwwww
Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 07:28
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
One of the prime reasons I renounced my faith was because I did not like having the beliefs of others shoved down my throat and I did not like having to blindly follow things that I questioned or didn't believe in.


Well that's exactly what many others are doing in this thread regarding their non-belief in Christianity. In fact, I could easily also say that you are.

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04-25-2006 07:30
From: Lewis Nerd

I think common sense dictates that when you build something below sea level, there is a high probability that it will flood at some point, when all that is holding the water back is a couple of high walls. Did you know New Orleans flooded in 1927?


Well, now there's one thing where I can say we agree.
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04-25-2006 07:30
From: Briana Dawson
Awwwwww


Seriously.

Finding the death of people who are trying to help out amusing, even if they don't share your personal hatreds, is twisted.

I can honestly say I don't recall ever seeing something so disturbing on the forum. Even the christian = hitler woman a few pages back wasn't that bad.

Consider getting help.
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04-25-2006 07:32
From: Lewis Nerd
Well that's exactly what many others are doing in this thread regarding their non-belief in Christianity. In fact, I could easily also say that you are.

Lewis


No. We aren't trying to make you give up your faith, or shove our personal beliefs down your throat.
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04-25-2006 07:32
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
OK:
Hurry! You're going to have to stick your head back in the sand! Or provide me with similar links that aren't written by religious zealots with actual scientific-method produced proof.


Interesting. So, 'experts' on one side are allowed to provide proof, but those on the 'other' aren't?

Face it, scientists are just as biased in their writings as you are claiming Christians to be.

Scientific methods change all the time as 'new discoveries' are made - meaning they are only facts until disproven otherwise.

God does not change, however.

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04-25-2006 07:33
From: Dale Glass
Well, now there's one thing where I can say we agree.


You'd probably find there's a lot more things, when the subjects come up.

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04-25-2006 07:35
From: Lewis Nerd
You'd probably find there's a lot more things, when the subjects come up.

Lewis


Won't disagree with that either.
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04-25-2006 07:35
From: Lewis Nerd
God does not change, however.


Neither do the facts underlying science.

However, I do recall God changing his mind about an awful lot of stuff. God who is perfect and infallible, as I recall.
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04-25-2006 07:38
From: Lewis Nerd
Well that's exactly what many others are doing in this thread regarding their non-belief in Christianity. In fact, I could easily also say that you are.

Lewis


I'm not telling you to believe as I do. I quite frankly don't care what you believe in to the extent that you do not cast your judgement down on the rest of us for being different. I am explaining why I don't believe or follow Christianity as is everyone else. At best, people are providing alternate examples of thought -- I can see where that might taint your pure saved soul. There is a big difference between me explaining how/why I am not a Christian and you telling people that they are not saved because they are not Christians. I don't think you should be an atheist etc. but you seem to think we should all be Christians. Did you even read the rest of my post?
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Dale Glass
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04-25-2006 07:41
From: Lewis Nerd
Interesting. So, 'experts' on one side are allowed to provide proof, but those on the 'other' aren't?

Face it, scientists are just as biased in their writings as you are claiming Christians to be.


Faith and proof are mutually exclusive. Example:

My socks keep vanishing. I read on this website/book that it's the Invisible Pink Unicorn who keeps rapturing them! There, I solved the mistery!

Only it's complete nonsense.

From: Lewis Nerd

Scientific methods change all the time as 'new discoveries' are made - meaning they are only facts until disproven otherwise.


Quite right, science is constantly disproving things. Like bits of religion. Zeus became completely unnecessary for instance, and vanished in a puff of logic.

From: Lewis Nerd

God does not change, however.

Lewis


So when was the last time we saw a burning bush, or water splitting, or a booming voice coming from the sky? He sure seems to keep a lot more to himself lately. That's a change.
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04-25-2006 07:45
From: Lewis Nerd
Interesting. So, 'experts' on one side are allowed to provide proof, but those on the 'other' aren't?

A brainwashed religious zealot does not an expert make.

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04-25-2006 07:49
Christianity's marketing angle is all wrong.

Now, if it marketed itself as a deathcult with a zombie saviour, and institutionalised ritual cannibalism, it could garner itself some street cred.

and Lewis, I know that you have your beliefs, and i respect your right to them, the same respect youve extended me as a friend, youve done yourself a disservice the way youve come across in this thread.
As to the original poster... if you attempt to evangelise to me in world, youll quickly find a prim bible shoved up your keister.
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04-25-2006 07:58
From: Briana Dawson
Fuck the messenger. I love it when missionaries are slaughtered in 3rd world countries.

If you don't want to get stoned, then don't deliever the message.

Briana Dawson


Peole have tried to make me a Sub in SL. It happens every day. Day in and day out yet I do not go after these people. I turn away from them.

You are making me feel better. You have broken down to vulgar language. That is a sure method in seeing a losing argument :) Also your message says to me that you can not stand people that disagree with you. The truth is that you are the person with no tolerance.
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04-25-2006 08:04
Christianity would be more on-target today if they worked in the sex angle.

What happened to the great parts in the bible, you know, where so-and-so's-wife couldn't get pregnant, so the husband got to impregnate their servant? Now *that* is classy.

Just imagine the service industry dollars if we could get that integrated into society today. Those people were innovators!

I still think church needs more skirts.
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04-25-2006 08:08
From: Maxx Monde
Christianity would be more on-target today if they worked in the sex angle.

What happened to the great parts in the bible, you know, where so-and-so's-wife couldn't get pregnant, so the husband got to impregnate their servant? Now *that* is classy.

Just imagine the service industry dollars if we could get that integrated into society today. Those people were innovators!

I still think church needs more skirts.



You read the Handmaiden's Tale....
or seen the movie adaptation Maxx?
chilling stuff.
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04-25-2006 08:10
From: Ketra Saarinen
Far ANcient Hebrew.. I think there's only a handful of people who can actually read that. Plus the original manuscripts are lost. Some believe the Dead Sea Scrolls are them, but it's not proven.

And then there are the conspiracy theorists that sayt he vatican is sitting on them, but that's Tinfoil Hat territory.
Also there is no "original bible."

It's a book that evolved over a long period of time based on a lot of different sources. Some of the oldest bits are indeed ancient Hebrew, but parts of them are essentially identical to older Summerian stuff. The majority was written in Aramaic.

There are also almost zero recovered texts that make up the bible that survive from the period of the stories they refer to.

Almost all the earliest surviving texts of the New Testament for example were written hundreds of years after it happened (I think one gets as close as about 70 years now), so whatever the "original," said is still very much in doubt.
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04-25-2006 08:22
From: Lewis Nerd

God does not change, however.

Lewis


Uh, what do you call the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?

God changed.

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04-25-2006 08:23
From: Briana Dawson
Uh, what do you call the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?

God changed.

Briana Dawson


Strictly speaking, the Bible isn't God.
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04-25-2006 08:25
From: Ranma Tardis
You have broken down to vulgar language.


You obviously have not read all the posts in this thread. Especially the last 2-3 pages.

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04-25-2006 08:28
From: Briana Dawson
You obviously have not read all the posts in this thread. Especially the last 2-3 pages.

Briana Dawson


Wow.

That managed to neither address her comment (which was, admittedly, baseless) or have any relevence to anything else in this thread. But yet, it wasn't funny, like Pie.
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04-25-2006 08:35
Well, after this got moved, the original poster (who has yet to respond in this thread) created a bitchpost in the General forums asking why it was moved and claiming that Christianity was being descriminated against.

Which to me tells me that all this debate has been simply feeding an evangelistic troll.

At least, the debate is intelligent. For the most part. I've seen a few dumb things, like Pascal's Wager and assumption that all religions that believe in a form of Magick are tripe, but for the most part, very intelligent.

I will submit, though, that man created religion. Religion is not God. Religion was discovered the first time a rock fell off the top of a mountain and killed someone.

I don't think people should be held accountable for what they believe, but should be held accountable for how they express it to others once they claim the belief. Each person according to their own definition of sin. If you can't face yourself, regardless of belief, you're certainly not going to be able to face your deity.
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04-25-2006 08:46
From: Lewis Nerd
I guess I'm having difficulty understanding the fact that I cannot force you to change your mind or beliefs or anything. However, if I reason with you, you accept what I am saying, and change your mind yourself, then I have not forced you.

Please show us where you've tried to be reasonable. You've made absolute claims that YOUR way of belief was superior to everyone else's, but the only 'evidence' you've provided has been links to fundamentalist websites which have the same agenda as you. Maybe I should cite www.positiveatheism.org or www.infidels.org back at you -- even though you'd never read them, the fact is that they contain far more logic and reason than you've demonstrated in this thread.

Nobody's trying to change your mind, Lewis, but keep your superstitious, condescending nonsense to yourself and make everybody happy.
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04-25-2006 08:48
From: Reitsuki Kojima
That would be "smite". "smote" is past tense. There's a smaller amount of people who think it's "smited", but...


No - it would be 'having people smitten'.
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