Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?

Well, mostly. There are some specific exceptions I seem to recall, from a class on this once, but they aren't comming to mind at the moment.

Maybe there are places where we can all drop the religion for a few minutes and play a video game (however you choose to play/live it)...Can this be one?

Actually, that is one of the things I have always objected to about the Christian faith.

This response was amazing. Such a thing makes the truth very clear. God wants to have a presense in SL. God is calling for the gospels to be spread through this new technology and give an alternative to the filth and sin that exist here. Many of you need, and are wheeping behind your harsh words to be saved by Jesus. It reminds me of Moses going up into the mountains to get the commandments while all the sin was going on by his followers at the bottom of the mountain.

UGH you make me sick. Only thing filthy here are you and your fucking religion. Why don't you go feel pity eslewhere you loser freak.

Briana Dawson

It never fails to amaze me how people have no problem with "Member of XXX cybersluts group" or "Member of horny Satanists group", "Member of naked Wiccans group" or that they openly practise slavery in their profile, yet simply stating something along the lines of "I am a Christian" stirs up so much hatred. However, it's something that has happened for 2000 years - and it's perhaps a shame that all the open minded, progressive, supposedly liberated people that play SL aren't able to look beyond their own prejudices. I have no problem with others in game doing things I find distasteful - and merely go elsewhere when I encounter it, yet people can't seem to avoid attacking Christianity because they feel that 'it has no place in SL'. Frankly there is a lot more that has even less of a place in SL but no, attacking that is somehow restricting their freedom of expression.

I rarely bother to post in the off topic forum but felt that this point needed to be made, in order to make people think about what they are doing and saying about this issue. Just because some people choose not to believe in Christ does not make Christ cease to exist - or His Word any less valid and applicable to every person reading this thread.

Lewis

Why are you so threatened by something you don't believe in? Or is it perhaps that you know it is and can't handle the truth?

I think you are the 'loser' here, because you are losing out on a lot by rejecting Christ.

Lewis

Interestingly, Cybersluts and Satanists dont tell me I'm going to hell if I don't participate in their group.

In any event, I really have no intention of going to hell despite the fact that Im Jewish.

You missed the point, which is that people seem to have no problem with finding Christianity offensive - even though the statement that started this whole thread was purely factual rather than evanglistic in nature - yet when I say that I find satanists, sex groups, vampires and other similar things offensive, I'm told that it's their right to freely express themselves that I am infringing on.

As for your statement of "I really have no intention of going to hell" ... well, you can't change God's decision, whatever it may be. I don't know how you personally stand with God - that's a matter for you and Him to discuss, not here.

Lewis

The difference is, the goreans or the satanists or whatever aren't making comment's like Ty's a line up... That we "need to be saved", we are "weeping" because of our denial of the truth, etc.

The freaks and wierdos aren't demanding you become a freak or a wierdo, but for some Christians its perfectly acceptable to assume we need to become Christian.



Just because some people choose to believe in Christ (or, more accuratly, God) does not make him valid, or cause him to exist, either.

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Ty, I don't need you. I don't need your interperation of God. I don't need to hear the words you have to say. You got twenty-some pages of mostly very rational debate, and you respond with that? You aren't worth the time to respond to anymore.

Actually, almost nobody is saying either of those things. Most of the responses in this thread, even if they expressed personal disbelief in religion, were also against people being condemned for it.

Likewise, nobody is saying you can't be offended by other things. What they are saying is, you aren't the only voice in the choir, here, and sometimes we just have to suffer something that offends us.

I didn't used to believe in the Christian martyr-complex, Lewis, growing up in a very healthy, well-balanced family and community that also happened to be Christian, but you and Ty are starting to make a believer out of me (pun intended).



Exactly! So shut up and leave us alone to our sin, if that's what you think we're doing. God doesn't need you to speak for him. I think I remember something about him being all-powerful.

I find the very thought of Christ repulsive and the thought of worship makes me want to vomit.
As a young girl i used to cry, claw and scratch my way out of going to church, and as a teen communion made me puke.

Just take your tacky little religion and walk on with the knowledge you are hated.

Briana Dawson

Romans 10:12-14
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-- the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?

Next....

Lewis

By your logic, you're threatened by the truth of everything you find offensive, that, say... Goreanism, if you're offended by that, is actually the ideal society and you are scared to admit it.

Sorry, I have every right to be here, every right to hold my beliefs, and every right to make it known whenever I want to, in whatever way I want to.

You are obviously very well aware of the power of God, and His claim upon your life. I can't think of any other reason for your lashing out in such a vitriolic way, because if you really felt that God was nothing... why would you be so angry about something that you don't think exists?

Lewis

Ah, but someone came to their realization first. God came down and smacked someone on the head and said, "Yo, moron, worship me! I'm up here, making the earth 'n stuff. Gimmie a little respect."

Strangely, since then, his all-powerful self has never been able to replicate that feat, so we only, when you come right down to it, have the word of that first guy that got wacked on the head by God's scepter.

I repeat, why does the all-powerful god need fallible mortals who repeatedly fuck up while supposedly being tennants of holy purity to spread his message?

Actually, I have read some of the Gor books, and do find the culture fascinating, however I treat it in the way it was written - as fiction - and not act out some fantasy lifestyle through it in the way that many do.

As Gor is not real, there is no reason to fear it ... however God is very real.

Lewis

Oh thats right, quote the bible. Good Answer you original self-righteous thinker.

Briana Dawson

You're right... God doesn't need us, if he wanted to destroy the whole universe in an instant, He could just click his fingers and BOOM everything is gone. All of us, no exceptions. But God, in His mercy, gives us all a chance.

One day it'll be too late to make that decision. Don't be left behind.

Lewis

Or, maybe, she found church as stupid and boring as I did. I don't need to sit in an uncomfortable wooden seat and listen to a person read a book very, very slowly a book that I could read perfectly fine for myself when I was still in gradeschool, or worse yet be dragged to that abomination called "sunday school".

What's wrote on paper between two covers?

The Gor books?

Oh, that's right... the Bible is too.

Both are just a book.

You Christians act out the fantasy life of the bible all the time. You are doing it now.

God is very real? LOL

Briana Dawson

I repeat, since you aren't adressing the issue: Why does an all-powerful god need fallible mortals who pervert his message to spread said message?

If God is interested in saving men, wouldn't he have all the priests who corrupt his word and turn people away from the faith smote, at the very least?

Of course it's a good answer ... it's the Bible. When there's a problem with your car, you go to the manufacturer's instruction manual, so what's so wrong about humans doing the same thing for themselves?

You asked why people need to share the Word of God. I gave you the answer, in His own words. Sorry it wasn't good enough for you.

Lewis

Cute... Quoting a book title based on the end times.

Briana Dawson