Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?
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Briana Dawson
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04-25-2006 05:11
From: Reitsuki Kojima
If God is interested in saving men, wouldn't he have all the priests who corrupt his word and turn people away from the faith smote, at the very least?
Speaking of having people smote. I think it was funny as hell when Pat Robertson said Ariel Sharon had been smote by god for giving away the Israeli land to the Palestinians. LOL smote by god. SMOTE ME LORD! Briana Dawson
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:12
From: Reitsuki Kojima What's wrote on paper between two covers?
The Gor books?
Oh, that's right... the Bible is too.
Both are just a book. Except that God wrote the Bible, and John Norman wrote the Gor books. Lewis
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-25-2006 05:12
From: Briana Dawson Speaking of having people smote.
I think it was funny as hell when Pat Robertson said Ariel Sharon had been smote by god for giving away the Israeli land to the Palestinians.
LOL smote by god.
SMOTE ME LORD!
Briana Dawson That would be "smite". "smote" is past tense. There's a smaller amount of people who think it's "smited", but...
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:13
From: Briana Dawson Cute... Quoting a book title based on the end times.
Briana Dawson You should read them. It's a great series. Sure, it's fiction, but it's based on what the Bible says will happen. Lewis
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:15
From: Reitsuki Kojima Or, maybe, she found church as stupid and boring as I did. I don't need to sit in an uncomfortable wooden seat and listen to a person read a book very, very slowly a book that I could read perfectly fine for myself when I was still in gradeschool, or worse yet be dragged to that abomination called "sunday school". Admittedly different Churches have different styles when it comes to how they get across the message of the Bible - and many do seem rather boring. However, the difference with Christianity is that it is a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with God that is important, not going three times a day on Sunday and giving 10% when the pot comes round. Most people don't understand the difference between faith and religion. Lewis
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-25-2006 05:16
From: Lewis Nerd Except that God wrote the Bible Prove it. Because I'm pretty sure a guy wrote it. I would think if God wrote it, it wouldn't be scattered across half the middle east, in multiple languages, pieces lost... I mean, coo, you think God wrote the bible. Which parts? With what brand of ink? Why didn't he use something a little less temporal than parchment... you know, engraved titanium plates the size of a volkswagon bus, or something? I'd think God could manage something a little more durable. Maybe God told some dude what to write, but we've all seen how God doesn't seem to inspire a lot of obedience in his followers, unless God told those priests to rape little kids.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-25-2006 05:16
From: Lewis Nerd However, the difference with Christianity is that it is a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with God that is important, not going three times a day on Sunday and giving 10% when the pot comes round. Most people don't understand the difference between faith and religion. Finally something we agree on.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:21
From: Reitsuki Kojima Prove it. Because I'm pretty sure a guy wrote it. I would think if God wrote it, it wouldn't be scattered across half the middle east, in multiple languages, pieces lost... I mean, coo, you think God wrote the bible. Which parts? With what brand of ink? Why didn't he use something a little less temporal than parchment... you know, engraved titanium plates the size of a volkswagon bus, or something? Have a read of http://www.allabouttruth.org/who-wrote-the-bible.htm - although I'm not sure you'll like the answers. From: Reitsuki Kojima Maybe God told some dude what to write, but we've all seen how God doesn't seem to inspire a lot of obedience in his followers, unless God told those priests to rape little kids. Not everything done in God's name throughout history agrees with the Bible - and you'll find the same with Islam and other faiths too. Lewis
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Marcus Moreau
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04-25-2006 05:21
From: Lewis Nerd Romans 10:12-14 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-- the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." 14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
Next....
Lewis Where's the verse that says: "And ye be blessed who go unto the non-believers and press thine words unto them with force. And ye be blessed who think not that he is less than any non-believer. And ye be blessed who crucify those who do not follow in the same path, for the sinners shall inherrit nothing but hell and shall be told of this over and over again." I missed the "righteousness is arrogance" part of the bible. MM
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-25-2006 05:24
I've read those basic arguements before, although I tend to avoid dogma-spouting sites. Interestingly, even they boil down to "Yeah, dudes wrote it. BUT GOD WAS BEHIND IT!!!!!!!" Which I didn't say I rejected, just that I question why he chose such a screwed up method to spread his word. From: Lewis Nerd Not everything done in God's name throughout history agrees with the Bible - and you'll find the same with Islam and other faiths too.
Lewis Not everything in the bible agrees with the bible, so I don't find that hard to believe. The Koran is even worse for that.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Briana Dawson
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04-25-2006 05:24
LOL nice website choice. I guess that proves everything. Briana Dawson
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:27
From: Marcus Moreau I missed the "righteousness is arrogance" part of the bible. One day you're taking a different route home, and you notice a store that you haven't seen before. Stopping outside by a set of lights, you glance in the window, and notice some amazing special offers on meat/cars/computers/whatever, and decide to stop and investigate further because you're interested in what is on sale and the prices. You spend a load of cash on some great bargains, then tell all your friends that you know are looking for "it" so they can go and get themselves a great bargain too. You've found something great, you want to share it. That's all I'm doing, and all others are doing. Perhaps you'd rather not get a bargain but stick with your current supplier of 'it' because you've been going there for years, feel some sort of loyalty, or just can't be bothered. It makes no difference to me what you choose to believe - or ignore - but I know I need to let you know. What you do with it is your choice. Lewis
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:30
From: Briana Dawson LOL nice website choice. I guess that proves everything. I'm not exactly sure what answer you are looking for... just because you don't like an answer does not mean it is wrong. Lewis
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Marcus Moreau
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04-25-2006 05:31
From: Lewis Nerd One day you're taking a different route home, and you notice a store that you haven't seen before. Stopping outside by a set of lights, you glance in the window, and notice some amazing special offers on meat/cars/computers/whatever, and decide to stop and investigate further because you're interested in what is on sale and the prices. You spend a load of cash on some great bargains, then tell all your friends that you know are looking for "it" so they can go and get themselves a great bargain too.
You've found something great, you want to share it. That's all I'm doing, and all others are doing.
Perhaps you'd rather not get a bargain but stick with your current supplier of 'it' because you've been going there for years, feel some sort of loyalty, or just can't be bothered.
It makes no difference to me what you choose to believe - or ignore - but I know I need to let you know. What you do with it is your choice.
Lewis I was referring to your condescending attitude throughout this entire thread. It sickens me that that type of "preaching" is representative of a faith to which I once belonged. EDIT: Let me clarify and add that if I did find the greatest deal on meat/cars/etc and went to tell all my friends, I would certainly not tell them they are going to live a painful afterlife and suffer in eternity for not taking advantage of this deal. I would "pray" that they discovered the fruits of my deal, but I would not condemn them and pretend that I was better than them for this. MM
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Surreal Farber
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04-25-2006 05:36
From: Ty McCoy This response was amazing. Such a thing makes the truth very clear. God wants to have a presense in SL. God is calling for the gospels to be spread through this new technology and give an alternative to the filth and sin that exist here. Many of you need, and are wheeping behind your harsh words to be saved by Jesus. It reminds me of Moses going up into the mountains to get the commandments while all the sin was going on by his followers at the bottom of the mountain. I've seen pages and pages of the majority of people saying that although they don't favor religion for whatever reason, that they think that those individuals IMing you are out of line. I didn't chime in with "me too" cause it had really all been said. After seeing this post, I question whether your original post tells the full story.
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04-25-2006 05:37
From: Lewis Nerd One day you're taking a different route home, and you notice a store that you haven't seen before. Stopping outside by a set of lights, you glance in the window, and notice some amazing special offers on meat/cars/computers/whatever, and decide to stop and investigate further because you're interested in what is on sale and the prices. You spend a load of cash on some great bargains, then tell all your friends that you know are looking for "it" so they can go and get themselves a great bargain too.
You've found something great, you want to share it. That's all I'm doing, and all others are doing.
Perhaps you'd rather not get a bargain but stick with your current supplier of 'it' because you've been going there for years, feel some sort of loyalty, or just can't be bothered.
It makes no difference to me what you choose to believe - or ignore - but I know I need to let you know. What you do with it is your choice.
Lewis Is there a national Do Not Call List like with for telemarketers? Sign me up.
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:37
From: Marcus Moreau I was referring to your condescending attitude throughout this entire thread. It sickens me that that type of "preaching" is representative of a faith to which I once belonged. I'm not a preacher. Just trying to clear up a few common misconceptions that people are trying to falsely portray about the Christian faith. Sorry you turned your back on God. But do be assured that He hasn't turned His back on you. Lewis
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04-25-2006 05:38
From: Lewis Nerd You should read them. It's a great series. Sure, it's fiction, but it's based on what the Bible says will happen.
Lewis The Gor books are some of the most painfully poorly written books I have ever seen. They don't even have internal consistancy of ideas, or interesting characters. They are shabby knock-offs of the Conan and John Carter of Mars books.
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Marcus Moreau
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04-25-2006 05:41
From: Lewis Nerd I'm not a preacher. Just trying to clear up a few common misconceptions that people are trying to falsely portray about the Christian faith.
Sorry you turned your back on God. But do be assured that He hasn't turned His back on you.
Lewis I edited my post too late, so I will reply again: Let me clarify and add that if I did find the greatest deal on meat/cars/etc and went to tell all my friends, I would certainly not tell them they are going to live a painful afterlife and suffer in eternity for not taking advantage of this deal. I would "pray" that they discovered the fruits of my deal, but I would not condemn them and pretend that I was better than them for this. Sorry you turned your back on "love thy neighbor" and continue to exude the arrogance I mentioned. Be assured, we don't love you for it either, especially after this thread. MM
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04-25-2006 05:43
From: Lewis Nerd Except that God wrote the Bible, and John Norman wrote the Gor books.
Lewis So how do you reconcile that with the fact that there are multiple versions of the bible, some of which interpret the same thing differently, and even conflicting descriptions of the same events in the same version? Not to mention the various logical inconsistencies. A book that's so imperfect can't have been written by a perfect being.
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Lewis Nerd
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04-25-2006 05:45
From: Marcus Moreau Sorry you turned your back on "love thy neighbor" and continue to exude the arrogance I mentioned. Be assured, we don't love you for it either, especially after this thread. But I'm sure you wouldn't "love" me for not telling you if you found out at a later date about something great I'd known all along. Thankfully I don't play the popularity game on the forums, and nothing of what anyone may think about me particularly concerns me. Interestingly, I've had several people contact me to say that whilst they don't necessarily agree with my point of view, they do respect me for sticking up for what I believe in. Lewis
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04-25-2006 05:48
From: Lewis Nerd But I'm sure you wouldn't "love" me for not telling you if you found out at a later date about something great I'd known all along.
Thankfully I don't play the popularity game on the forums, and nothing of what anyone may think about me particularly concerns me. Interestingly, I've had several people contact me to say that whilst they don't necessarily agree with my point of view, they do respect me for sticking up for what I believe in.
Lewis I guess I respect that too. And I am glad you have such a strong faith (no sarcasm at all). But there's sticking up and there's condescending. The latter is what iks me about a lot of evangelists I have met (and as evidenced here). MM
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04-25-2006 05:49
From: Dale Glass So how do you reconcile that with the fact that there are multiple versions of the bible, some of which interpret the same thing differently, and even conflicting descriptions of the same events in the same version? Not to mention the various logical inconsistencies. A book that's so imperfect can't have been written by a perfect being. The wording may be different but the overall message remains the same. How do you explain the thousands of prophecies about Jesus all being fulfilled, some of which were written thousands of years before His birth? Either it was very good luck or a very well planned 33 year long practical joke ... or it's actually true. Lewis
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04-25-2006 05:52
From: Marcus Moreau I guess I respect that too. And I am glad you have such a strong faith (no sarcasm at all). But there's sticking up and there's condescending. The latter is what iks me about a lot of evangelists I have met (and as evidenced here). ... and the amusing thing about all of this is that if the Christian bashing hadn't have started in the first place, I wouldn't have had to say many of the things that I have had to in order to defend my faith. I never signed up to SL with the thought of becoming an in-world evangelist - I don't even mention my faith on my profile because I like to keep first and second life separate ... having said that, many of the people I have become friends with in-world have turned out to be Christians, when one of us mentioned something in passing during a conversation. There are many more of us out there in world than you might think... we just don't all shout it from the rooftops, even though there is no reason not to. Lewis
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04-25-2006 05:53
From: Lewis Nerd Of course it's a good answer ... it's the Bible. When there's a problem with your car, you go to the manufacturer's instruction manual, so what's so wrong about humans doing the same thing for themselves? Hmmm. Let's start with the fact that Sears doesn't declare a holy war against Midas!
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