Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?

*hands you some secret sauce* Whisper: it's made of ham.

Why do Christians seem to be the only religion with the urge to both try to force their religion onto others and simultaniously claim that they're being oppressed?

I have yet to have a single Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Pagan, Buddhist, Shintoist, Zoroastrian, Satanist, Taoist, etc. come up to me and try to cram their religion down my throat. The reason I often react with a "I don't want to hear about your religion" when Christians bring up Christianity, is that a majority of the ones who bring it up publicly want to convert you. That's the whole reason they bring it up.

Myself? I want to promote the wisdom of the Gospel of Aimee! Come all, come suckle at the teet of knowledge!

Lewis, No one is telling you that you can't believe what you want to believe, but what we are telling you is that the rest of us do not have to believe as you do and you do not have the right to enforce your beliefs on the rest of us. What is so hard to understand about that? I can only assume that you really just want people to hate you therefore proving your postulation that everyone hates Christians and that you are just another persecuted martyr. Seriously, get over yourself and congratulations you make disliking you as easy as 1 - 2 - 3.

When I have "preached" at you? I just helping out a fellow beliver to show you he is not alone.

As far as I am concerned you have gotten the maeesage and rejected it. There is no more work to be done, ok?

I have nothing against non belivers but will stand with a believer when under attack.

I don't want to destroy your faith. I want you to stop arrogantly assuming everyone wants to be Christian, and if they aren't Christian, that they're going to hell. And yes, I would have a problem with a Gorean master trying to find subs at the Welcome Area, a big problem with it. Fortunately, that issue has never come up; Christians recruiting in the Welcome Area has, several times.

I don't have problems with your beliefs. I have problems with you evangelizing at people with a condescending attitude dripping with self-rightousness.


When you join someone who's preaching - what you call helping out a fellow believer - you're preaching too. And its tired. TIRED, TIRED, TIRED. Have you even read what Lewis has said in this entire thread? Its much more self-rightous, arrogant, and downright insulting than your posts have been, but by defending him for what he's saying, you're sharing in his level of self-rightousness.

Regards,

-Flip

The Dirty Old Man in my head will drink that Maxx and say Halluejuah with every panty shot.

Through FAITH the Christian claims to transcend reason and gain knowlexge inaccessible to a person's rational capacity.

Faith flies in the face of rational thought, reason.

Briana Dawson

Recently I threw out a question to a couple of friends. Where would the world be today if Abraham had loved his son more than his God.

For some reason it had never struck me that the founder of the big three was willing to murder his child because God said do it. I wonder if perhaps it was a test for Abraham, not of obedience, but rather of morality. If he had said no way God, murder is wrong. Would God have decided that he was ready for a different kind of message? Would the message that it's ok to kill in the name of God be missing from the branch religions? To say nothing about the concept that parents own their children as opposed to being responsible for them.

What if Abraham had said, I have no right to offer someone else's life, however, I will sacrifice myself to you, God?

I wonder what Sarah was doing at the time. As the mother of a son, I can only say that Abraham would have had to watch his back.

My cat tried to convince me to join the church of satan once as a larf, but i was hallucinating because i had a really high fever from the flu. Other than they as long as I do the feline's biding all is well in the universe.

DAMMIT Jennyfur, now I have to steal paper towels from the break room to clean the coffee off my monitor!

It's your fault, but please don't repent!

I dunno Lewis, if I went to your kids when you weren't around and taught them a different religion, would your anger be because you were aware that my God is better than your God? If I followed you around every fricken day and refused to shut up about my religion, would your inevitable anger and annoyance be a sign that my God is better than your God?

Or would it just be the normal human reaction to someone sticking their nose in where they don't belong?

Some religions say you can not convert, others will kill you first then maybe try to convert you and some try to convert you.

I say dont "stone" the messengers, if you dont like the message just walk away. It will be your choice.

I guess I'm having difficulty understanding the fact that I cannot force you to change your mind or beliefs or anything. However, if I reason with you, you accept what I am saying, and change your mind yourself, then I have not forced you.

Just like, in the original post, nobody was forced to read the profile, and those who did weren't forced to write an abusive PM to the guy.

Lewis

Ranma, get the messengers to stop stalking people, that'll be the solution.

You can't be an adult in North America and not know what Christianity is. I don't need -every single one- of the Christians to explain it to me. I've heard it, I don't care for it.

Fuck the messenger. I love it when missionaries are slaughtered in 3rd world countries.

If you don't want to get stoned, then don't deliever the message.

Briana Dawson

There is nothing wrong with trying to reason with someone. I'm sure you would be just as understanding if an Atheist tried to reason with you.

That's completely useless. A book that makes prediction in one page, and confirms it in the next chapter. Please point to some outside confirmation.



You're not looking very well. Look for instance at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_clairvoyance

See for instance "The bulk of the quatrains deal with disasters of various sorts (nearly all of them undated)". That's of course guaranteed to happen, just predict a flood in an area that can get flooded and it'll eventually happen. I'm pretty sure if you dig hard enough you can find a prediction for the flooding of New Orleans, but did anybody talk about it *before* it got flooded?




No, it's called nonsense.

Reason? Coming from you? That's rich. And just a reminder: everyone said that the person who harrassed the original poster was out of line and a bigot. Then the original poster stuck his head back into the thread and made it clear that he was an idiot, and most likely not telling the whole story, rambling on about how "SL needs God and Jesus!" Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the TRUTH.

Regards,

-Flip

God defies reason. You can't reason about your God.

Briana Dawson

So do you, evidently, when the existance of God is plain to see in all creation. Just look out of the nearest window and tell me how all that happened to evolve from a lump of primeval snot on a rock which occured as a random result of an accidental explosion from just the right things in the right quantities at the right time being in the right location to occur in just the right power to happen.

Lewis

Yea, you are right. Some SUPERNATURAL being created everything, including us so he could have people to praise his creations and stroke his ego.

I bet as a kid when you dropped food on the ground you said something like "god make dirt so dirt cant hurt" and then ate it, right?

Briana Dawson

You won't get anywhere that way. The obvious question becomes, where did your god evolve from? And don't tell me he was always there, because then there's no reason why the universe couldn't have appeared out of nowhere by itself.

OK:
http://www.tufts.edu/as/wright_center/cosmic_evolution/docs/splash.html

Specifics about the co-existence of religion and evolution:
http://www.lightandmatter.com/evolution/index.html

Hurry! You're going to have to stick your head back in the sand! Or provide me with similar links that aren't written by religious zealots with actual scientific-method produced proof.

Regards,

-Flip

Look Lewis, I've been an atheist/agnostic since I was 15 after having been raised Greek Catholic and converted to Roman Catholic when I was a child and having gone to Catholic school from 3rd grade until I graduated highschool. That was 15 years ago already, in other words half of my life. One of the prime reasons I renounced my faith was because I did not like having the beliefs of others shoved down my throat and I did not like having to blindly follow things that I questioned or didn't believe in. I was taught intolerance on every level from the church and I rebelled against it because I didn't want to become one of those people who hate and fear everything different from themselves - which is what I was taught, as a Catholic (or more broadly as a Christian) we were better and more saved than everyone else that we should discrminate against those who are different - homosexuals, people of other religions, etc. These did not seem like MORAL decisions to me, so I walked away since what can one 15 year old girl do to change the medieval mindset of the catholic church.

You might think that since I do not ascribe to any particular faith especially Chirstianity that I am not saved, that I am less than human, that I am immoral and a bad person, which I am not and I take offense every time some one like you comes along and insists that I am going to hell because I don't hold the same belief system as you do. You are free to believe as you want. I don't care. If it makes you happy then go for it. But, please understand that you are no better than I am because you have Jesus and God. I choose not to name my beliefs in such relative terms. I find myself saying universe where I would normally reference god or some other deity. I just don't feel the need to be a part of some bigger picture where religion is concerned. To me, religion, faith and morals are VERY personal. I don't go around extolling my beliefs in hopes of converting people to my mindset and I really dislike when people feel the need the extol their beliefs unwantedly upon me. If I ask that is one thing, because I am curious as to why people chose their religions and believe as they do.

NO one was forced to listen or forced to read the profile, but it is symptomatic of how Christinaity boasts itself. Take for instance, how many Jesus fish emblems you see on cars or Christianity inspired bumper stickers. I can't say I've ever seen a "Honk if you are Hindu" or "I Brake for Buddha" bumper stickers. I know I have seen some neo-pagan bumper stickers such as "My other car is a broom" and that sort of thing. Its about putting your faith out there and wearing it on your sleeve. Faith and religion are personal and private and shouldn't be flaunted like a large pair of tits at a strip club.

Ok, there is a line, and its a long ways back, Briana

Believe it what they are preaching or not, most missionaries in the modern era are good people honestly trying to help out. They don't deserve death for it, and it speaks worlds about you that you would find it amusing.