Abortion: Putting A Face On The Issue

I'd have a lot more sympathy for your point of view if you weren't wasting money on Second Life. Because, you see, you don't really care that much about life. Oh you SAY you do. But really you don't.

If you did, you'd give the money you currently spend on Second Life to the poor. To those who have no homes. To hospitals that try to save babies that are actually wanted by the parents but might have AIDs, addictions, genetic defects, and other birth defects.

We, as a race (and by that I mean the human race) don't really care that much about life. We fight wars and kill thousands of people. Some people that are against abortion are actually in favor of wars -- a point of view I have a hard time fathoming but there ya go. We have the death penalty. Its ok with us that homeless people die on the streets. If it wasn't, we'd prevent it. Its ok with us that near-genocide goes on in places like Rwanda, and the Sudan. If it wasn't, we'd do something about it. But we don't.

What we do instead is argue over bullshit like abortion -- like that is something that actually matters. Those that actually care about life aren't playing Second Life. They aren't posting on message boards. They are working for CARE or UNICEF or the Red Cross and spending their time helping to rid the world of real atrocities.

Now I don't excuse myself from this. I'm among the people who don't really care that much. On the other hand, I'm not posting on message boards about how abortion kills little babies. Because people and babies die every day.

Do you live in the US? Of course you do -- this isn't an issue anywhere else. Do you know that the US has one of the highest infant mortality rates of all the industrialized nations? Why is that, do you think? (I'll give you a hint -- it has nothing to do with abortion). Could it be that access to health care is difficult for the poor? Did you vote against socialized medicine? Did you vote? Do you rail against paying higher taxes for social programs? All these things mean less babies die. All these things mean less people die. Abortion is nothing, comparitively. Less babies die in the US every year due to abortion than malnutrition. Choke on that fact while you are rallying against abortion.

So given where the real problems are, and given where you choose to spend your time, money and energy, I can only surmise that your motives are something other than life. I don't particularly care what those motives are -- they aren't anything I'm interested in supporting. But how about you call a spade a spade and tell us whats really going on hmmm?

We could pass out condoms and tranquilizers to rapists. We could teach victims to not fight back thus diminishing the possible physical harm done to both participants. And then, after the act has been committed we can provide counseling in hopes that the victim can move on with his/her life and that the rapist would hopefully see the error of his/her (but mostly his) way.
-Kiamat Dusk

Logically, nothing I do will either make my actual statement "abortion is wrong" more or less true.

It's either true or not.

So your demands that I prove a commitment means nothing. Are you going to accept my statement "abortion is wrong", and believe it's true if I tell you all the things I do for children, if it meets or exceeds your actions?

If not, kill the drive to assume I am not morally rightious enough to make such a claim.

Real men defend the weak and helpless from those who are stronger.

The whole Abortion issue is pointless. My solution is easier- Let the kid be born. Untill it's born it's defenseless, right? So once it hits the outside world.... Kill it!!

During college, I had been with a woman and she became pregnant.

My family didn't have any other male progeny. I was the sole male Schultz remaining on the family tree - as my father was in poor health and would soon pass away, never being a grandpa. The ability to father a son meant a great deal to him, and to me. However, the action of the young lady aborting our son has left an indelible scar on my soul to this day.
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Yes, the woman can claim it is her body and she can do anything with it. But what about the potential father? What right does he have? What option does he have but to live with the fact that he will know for the rest of his life that he lost a son, and potential heir, in a family where out of five males on my father's side all were unable to sire any children?

Here's a face of the abortion issue. This guy's letter was published in my local paper today. I think what he says speaks volumes about many anti-abortion men. Some select snippets:



Wow. King Henry VIII lives! And what if the baby had been a girl?

What happens when the weak and helpless are guilty of some heinous crime and the stronger people are the one's bringing them to justice? Or is your world always in black and white?

Oh yes, the fetus is guilty of some heinous crime and the stronger people are the one's bringing her to justice, sure.

are you deliberately obtuse?

I thought you said you are done with me, what's wrong, you can't stop thinking about me?

Hugs

I am done with you. Now it's for other people's entertainment.

It's the science that says what is a body part. As opposed to what is a complete, separate human being.

I can't find any science that says body parts have their own feet and fingers, brain and heart. No body parts ever grow up to be the president of the USA.

It's the science that says what is a body part. As opposed to what is a complete, separate human being.

I can't find any science that says body parts have their own feet and fingers, brain and heart. No body parts ever grow up to be the president of the USA.

Then don't expect me to answer you. kthxbye

Until they're actually born and it becomes 'not their responsibility.'

Alright South Dakoda, outlaw abortion on demand! You guys rock!

How can you be so cruel. The Lansing Shulz's are soon to be no more ::niff::::

I don't. As I said my main purpose now is to entertain others.

Could be natural selection, perhaps they have a trait that is undesierable to potential mates.

Right up to the point where the courts will strike this down as an unreasonable intrusion on the mother's rights-oh wait they won't because we have packed the Supreme Court with some judicial one trick ponies, just to ensure they don't strike such stupid laws down.