Condoms protect against AIDS.
They are about 87% effective in stopping the transmission of HIV, but that leaves a gaping hole of 13%. That means out of 100 times of using a condom 13 times will not protect you. Bad odds if you ask me.
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Kevn Klein
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03-17-2006 09:46
They are about 87% effective in stopping the transmission of HIV, but that leaves a gaping hole of 13%. That means out of 100 times of using a condom 13 times will not protect you. Bad odds if you ask me. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-17-2006 09:46
They are about 87% effective in stopping the transmission of HIV, but that leaves a gaping hole of 13%. That means out of 100 times of using a condom 13 times will not protect you. Bad odds if you ask me. link _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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03-17-2006 09:47
And some men have been known to sabotage birth control in order to get the woman pregnant- what is your point? You specifically stated that WOMEN should obtain condoms and use them.. How soon you forget... Man or woman, I'm not buying their condoms. |
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Lecktor Hannibal
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Joy Honey
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03-17-2006 09:48
They are about 87% effective in stopping the transmission of HIV, but that leaves a gaping hole of 13%. That means out of 100 times of using a condom 13 times will not protect you. Bad odds if you ask me. Better odds than no protection at all. And that's if they are not used properly. Maybe there should be sex education more readily available. Oh, duh that's right, sex education only promotes promiscuity, everyone knows only MARRIED HETEROSEXUALS should be having sex - so everyone else stop at ONCE!!  _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-17-2006 09:50
Man or woman, I'm not buying their condoms. Since you won't even allow them to purchase their own abortions, I'm assuming that you would like their children to die of starvation and AIDS. So after considering your question from earlier --I guess I'm ready to label you mean-spirited . _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-17-2006 09:51
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Joy Honey
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Elspeth Withnail
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03-17-2006 09:54
They are about 87% effective in stopping the transmission of HIV, but that leaves a gaping hole of 13%. That means out of 100 times of using a condom 13 times will not protect you. Bad odds if you ask me. By this line of reasoning, soldiers in combat should not be issued body armor. Sigh. I really should ignore you, but it bothers me so that some people present their ill-founded moral righteousness and prejudices as if they were universal truths. |
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Breeanne Canetti
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03-17-2006 10:03
Okay I should be staying out of this because well a lot of people will most likely hate me even if I do word this kindly but I cant stay away because I want to speak up so here we go
1. I am NOT a christen I happen to be Pagan and there are many of us around 2. Church and law SHOULD be separated (which no matter what anyone says its not) 3. If a woman gets knocked up because she was raped (don’t say this don’t happen) are you saying that to abort a fetus is wrong 4. Okay if it is……..is it still wrong if it was a 13 year old girl that was raped? 5. Okay now then away from rape say a woman who CAN NOT have a baby due to her own health and safety gets pregnant and would die if she does not abort the fetus are you saying that she should die? 6. As for condoms no matter what happens people are going to have sex point blank so go ahead and hand condoms out it will protect at least some people 7. Condoms are a lot easier to use than birth control if a woman forgets to take a pill bam she can be knocked up but it is hard to forget to put on a condom Okay I have more but im going to shut up because I know you all hate me already |
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Kevn Klein
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03-17-2006 10:18
......6. As for condoms no matter what happens people are going to have sex point blank so go ahead and hand condoms out it will protect at least some people........ Are you buying the condoms to pass out free? Or do you want other people to pay for them? |
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Gus Plisskin
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03-17-2006 10:29
See? I fucking told you so. Republicans want to ban abortion and at the same time they remove access to birth control to prevent people from getting pregnant. Birth control/contraception is supported by 93 percent of all adults, including 90 percent of Catholics and 88 percent of born-again Christians, the "very religious" and Evangelicals. Wide pluralities support contraception. Some 22 percent believe that contraception should not be taught... And 78% believe contraception should be taught in schools. |
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Elspeth Withnail
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03-17-2006 10:31
Okay I should be staying out of this because well a lot of people will most likely hate me even if I do word this kindly but I cant stay away because I want to speak up so here we go 1. I am NOT a christen I happen to be Pagan and there are many of us around 2. Church and law SHOULD be separated (which no matter what anyone says its not) 3. If a woman gets knocked up because she was raped (don’t say this don’t happen) are you saying that to abort a fetus is wrong 4. Okay if it is……..is it still wrong if it was a 13 year old girl that was raped? 5. Okay now then away from rape say a woman who CAN NOT have a baby due to her own health and safety gets pregnant and would die if she does not abort the fetus are you saying that she should die? 6. As for condoms no matter what happens people are going to have sex point blank so go ahead and hand condoms out it will protect at least some people 7. Condoms are a lot easier to use than birth control if a woman forgets to take a pill bam she can be knocked up but it is hard to forget to put on a condom Okay I have more but im going to shut up because I know you all hate me already That's actually a good point, about the age of the person impregnated. IIRC, the youngest on record was about five years old (yes, she had some interesting biochemistry going on). How about an abortion for a five year old carrying a child who is the result of incestuous rape? |
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Gus Plisskin
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03-17-2006 10:32
See? I fucking told you so. Republicans want to ban abortion and at the same time they remove access to birth control to prevent people from getting pregnant. Birth control/contraception is supported by 93 percent of all adults, including 90 percent of Catholics and 88 percent of born-again Christians, the "very religious" and Evangelicals. Wide pluralities support access to contraception. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-17-2006 10:34
Are you buying the condoms to pass out free? Or do you want other people to pay for them? By preventing unwanted pregnancies, giving free condoms saves the taxpayer millions in single mothers' allowance, and by preventing STDs like herpes, gonorroea and HIV/AIDS, taxpayers are saved millions on free testing clinics and treatment. But you don't care about the money, Kevn --you want to control women. _____________________
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Sally Rosebud
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03-17-2006 10:42
But, but it's not about his money, it's about his morals!
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Breeanne Canetti
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03-17-2006 10:43
i was just trying to say that there are cases in which a condom saved a Life!!! i know a lot of youthink that a fetus is a life by not makeing a new one.......I hope that made sense i dont really know how else to explain it
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Kevn Klein
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03-17-2006 10:46
By preventing unwanted pregnancies, giving free condoms saves the taxpayer millions in single mothers' allowance, and by preventing STDs like herpes, gonorroea and HIV/AIDS, taxpayers are saved millions on free testing clinics and treatment. But you don't care about the money, Kevn --you want to control women. Imagine the burden we could unload if we gave away free car and homeowners insurance. Also, free flood insurance would have really helped those Katrina victims and the states. There are so many needs, are you going to buy those things people need, or are you going to whine at me for refusing to buy your condoms? |
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-17-2006 10:48
Okay I should be staying out of this because well a lot of people will most likely hate me even if I do word this kindly but I cant stay away because I want to speak up so here we go 1. I am NOT a christen I happen to be Pagan and there are many of us around 2. Church and law SHOULD be separated (which no matter what anyone says its not) 3. If a woman gets knocked up because she was raped (don’t say this don’t happen) are you saying that to abort a fetus is wrong If you're gonna comment, do us all a favor so you don't come up with things already discussed...like this one. So far everyone (except maybe Kevn) has agreed that the MAP should be in every rape kit. 4. Okay if it is……..is it still wrong if it was a 13 year old girl that was raped? If you're gonna comment, do us all a favor so you don't come up with things already discussed...like this one. So far everyone (except maybe Kevn) has agreed that the MAP should be in every rape kit. 5. Okay now then away from rape say a woman who CAN NOT have a baby due to her own health and safety gets pregnant and would die if she does not abort the fetus are you saying that she should die? If you're gonna comment, do us all a favor so you don't come up with things already discussed...like this one. So far everyone has agreed that abortion should remain legal in cases where the mother's life and health are at severe risk. 6. As for condoms no matter what happens people are going to have sex point blank so go ahead and hand condoms out it will protect at least some people 7. Condoms are a lot easier to use than birth control if a woman forgets to take a pill bam she can be knocked up but it is hard to forget to put on a condom Condoms are birth control. Okay I have more but im going to shut up because I know you all hate me already -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Siobhan OFlynn
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03-17-2006 10:50
Okay I should be staying out of this because well a lot of people will most likely hate me even if I do word this kindly but I cant stay away because I want to speak up so here we go 1. I am NOT a christen I happen to be Pagan and there are many of us around 2. Church and law SHOULD be separated (which no matter what anyone says its not) 3. If a woman gets knocked up because she was raped (don’t say this don’t happen) are you saying that to abort a fetus is wrong 4. Okay if it is……..is it still wrong if it was a 13 year old girl that was raped? 5. Okay now then away from rape say a woman who CAN NOT have a baby due to her own health and safety gets pregnant and would die if she does not abort the fetus are you saying that she should die? 6. As for condoms no matter what happens people are going to have sex point blank so go ahead and hand condoms out it will protect at least some people 7. Condoms are a lot easier to use than birth control if a woman forgets to take a pill bam she can be knocked up but it is hard to forget to put on a condom Okay I have more but im going to shut up because I know you all hate me already I don't know why you'd think anyone would hate you for stating your opinions. I certainly don't hate you. Many of your points have been made by others in this thread and this forum. So, feel free to express your opinions.  _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-17-2006 10:57
You do not know anything about me. So STFU. Stop making sweeping generalizations while you're at it. I know everything about you-it's all right here in the forums. You are sympathetic to child molestors and you turn a blind eye to the murder of half-born babies. You claim to be a Catholic, yet all your personal beliefs run counter to the teachings of the Church. You are amoral and unethical. These are not "sweeping generalizations" these are conclusions based on your own posts. Oh, and I've AR'd you for using an acromonious acronym.  -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
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03-17-2006 11:02
I know everything about you-it's all right here in the forums. You are sympathetic to child molestors and you turn a blind eye to the murder of half-born babies. You claim to be a Catholic, yet all your personal beliefs run counter to the teachings of the Church. You are amoral and unethical. These are not "sweeping generalizations" these are conclusions based on your own posts. Oh, and I've AR'd you for using an acromonious acronym. -Kiamat Dusk You really are a bit judgemental for my tastes. You are also over-simplistic and are the one I see with a blind eye to another person's point of view. I just looooooove christian hypocrisy don't you? _____________________
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Siobhan OFlynn
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03-17-2006 11:02
/me pulls up a chair to enjoy the fireworks that will now ensue.
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Sally Rosebud
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03-17-2006 11:13
Mmmhmm. How do you know all about me? Have you ever sat down and had a conversation with me about these topics? You might be surprised what you hear... No, you haven't. You just like to make sweeping generalizations about people who have an opposing opinion to yours. Some of my opinions aren't far from yours amazingly enough, but you just read what you want to. When you take somebody's beliefs, and faith or lack thereof, and stomp all over it and throw it away with no consideration, that is quite rude and inconsiderate. I've only treated you the way you have treated me. Funny how that works hmm?
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Leilany LaFollette
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03-17-2006 11:19
Imagine the burden we could unload if we gave away free car and homeowners insurance. Also, free flood insurance would have really helped those Katrina victims and the states. There are so many needs, are you going to buy those things people need, or are you going to whine at me for refusing to buy your condoms? You can't possibly be that dense... you're just playing with us, aren't you? _____________________
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