Furries?

Dhrama.

If furries won't create drama, someone else will creat it in our name.

That was sarcasm, and I consider it quite an insult that you make such an assumption that we condone, or even allow that sort of thing there.

Same with you, Marcus. The presumption that a given area is full of perversion and sexual content (though it's a PG area, mind you) just because it's run by furries is certainly easy to do if you've never even been there.

Get out of your boxes and safe zones a little before going out and mass-insulting an entire swath of SL's population.

Marcus, I'll give you L$10,000 if you come to Luskwood - (which, by the way, gets a pretty damned high population day to day) - and can substantiate your "90%" claim even *within 10% margin of error*, on the caveat that if you're wrong, you post here that you were indeed, wrong.

Because you are wrong. I have no doubt on this whatsoever.

Tren, I'd offer you similar, but you know, I have a feeling that neither of you will take me up on this, as it's a hell of a lot easier to sit on a forum and insult by remote control, with the popular winds of the 'intarnets' blowing in your favor.


-Michi Lumin, Furry for 12 years, SL for 2.5 years, Operator of a PG area, and still, to date, has never worn a 'private attachment'.

I was never stating this as a whole for Second Life. You people need to read posts more carefully. I was simply stating (and I think the other couple people defending themselves did as well) that in MY EXPERIENCE this is how it is. I will not come to Luskwood just to do more study. As I said, I will cease to comment in the forums on things for which I have not gone to every sim and researched every avatar. Sorry if I touched a nerve, but you're taking this too factually/seriously.

My statements reflect my experience and my opinion, and in no way reflect what I think the Furries ARE in actuality. But thanks for calling my opinion and experience wrong, which is impossibly "wrong" as well.

MM

Volk means "people", "folk".

The german for "wolf" is "wolf".

You know you're right. I screwed up, Volk is wolf in Russian not german. But the point that Hitler liked animals a lot especially wolves still stands.

Jebers. First off, I never brought up Luskwood, only the forest and furnation. Second, I brought up furries {a large percentage, but by no means all} that have come to MY sims and acted like the way I described. You can't tell me that my personal expirence with most of furries is wrong, being that I was actually there in every encounter and you were not. If I went to luskwood, then said "All the furries in luskwood are into gay beastality orgies", then yes, I would be in the wrong. But being that I'm saying "From my expirence, MOST furries I encounter that come to my sim act in such and such way", then I'm not wrong. Its not even a debatable topic.

I know luskwood for the most part doesn't go into the sort of behaviour I discribed. I've been there a few times before {Helping Hydra do the asylum that was in the naighboring sim}.

Oh, and I will be more then happy to go and spend time is Luskwood for 10k.

No, you brought up furries. In general. I don't believe you narrowed your scope very much when making your generalization.




Funny though, you -can- tell me what I'm like, you -can- tell us what we're like... Guess it all depends on who you consider righteous.



The neighboring sim is still Luskwood. (Lusk, Perry, part of Clara and part of Tehama.)

... Didn't you say that you haven't met many furries who -don't- act the way you describe? If you really have spent any time in Luskwood, then, it really isn't debatable there, either; it simply isn't true.



The point there was to test accusations. If you're willing to renege on them based on proof found there, I'd be glad to oblige.

Maybe you need to -write- posts more carefully? You stated that "90%" of furries wear invisible penises, and now you're saying that this is only true for some parts of SecondLife, and that I just didn't read the post carefully enough?

Please, enlighten me and indicate where in your original post, you indicated where in SecondLife your claim was limited to.




Why? What have you got to lose? Suddenly when your "statistic" is called into question, it's not worth your time to back it up with evidence. But you'll still hold to it - which is absolutely a generalized derogatory accusation, and a harmful one - without being willing to even put forth a little bit of effort to put anything but anecdotal "evidence" behind your claim...

... But you also certainly by no means will admit that you might be wrong.

I wish life was that convenient more often, Marcus.



Oh, really Marcus? I wasn't asking for a SL-wide census. I was asking for you to open your eyes to a normal, everyday situational sample. But you won't even back up your insults with that -- you just keep on saying "Well I seen it, so it's gotta be true!"

Tell me, Marcus. What are you into? If I say, perused the groups you belong to, in your profile, and decided to summarily and categorically insult "90%" of the folks on SL who are into that one thing, are you telling me that you wouldn't be bothered? (Of course not; on the defensive, its always "You can't take a joke", or "You're taking it too seriously.)

It's not a joke. Every time one of these threads comes up, new folks learn a little bit more about who they're supposed to dislike, who it's okay to hate, and which groups are permissible to make fun of.

But at least you got a few LOLs out of it. That, after all, is all that really matters.




Are you trying to say that your "experience and opinion" isn't in line with what you really "think furries are in actuality" ? Maybe your dogma needs some adjustment.

There you go, Michi - "of the furries I have met in-world". That point is settled (actually was earlier in this thread).



I have never said yet that what I am stating is fact. In fact, I am saying (over and over) that these are my opinions, based on what I've seen. And this is EXACTLY what this thread asked.



I guess I meant that in no way do my statements point to anything factual, and I realize (and acknowledged already) that I have a limited experience.

Really, Michi, you're getting all worked up because I stated an opinion. I am not stating fact - I am not stating that I hate all furries because of this. I just said these were concerns of MY OWN based on my own EXPERIENCE. As requested, please read the posts more thoroughly.

MM

Actually, I received quite a bit of criticism for my afformentioned former groups. And I acknowledged that that genre of roleplay in SL had a bad name. In fact, as I stated already, I left because of this sort of behavior that tended to be common and unbearable.

However, I would not fly off the deep end when someone said something like "I don't like Jedi because they Force push me a lot." That is that person's opinion. While I might argue that not all Jedi (or any Star Wars roleplayer) are like that, it would still be the only experience via which that person may have been able to form that opinion.

Feel free to generalize. I was simply not doing so, as I clarified (multiple times now) that I was basing my statements on my experience, not trying to claim that my feelings are true or commonplace.

MM

You make statements and defend them with conviction, that you don't believe are true, huh.

Damn. That really *is* progressive.

You make statements and defend them with conviction, that you don't believe are true, huh.

Damn. That really *is* progressive.



mhm.

I am stating they are not truth just as stating that I like the color Green is not a truth. This does not mean they cannot be valid concerns for me. You, however, are making statements based on an inability to read the thread carefully, evidently.

MM

Which Primus song is this? All I can think about is their last EP title, "Animals Should Not Try to Act Like People", which sounds rather anti-furry.

I think it's safe to say that this thread has outlived it's usefulness, as it has derailed into a personal debate between two people. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life.