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Jakkal Dingo
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02-06-2006 16:38
From: someone However, I think tolerance is a deeply rooted value that helps to make Second Life the innovative and interesting place that it is, because tolerance supports diversity. I'm beginning to believe that SL is too tolerant when you let people 'express themselves' to the point of harassing and stalking others, which is incidentally in the TOS, yet nothing is ever done about it. The fine example I made last night was a group of retarded looking gary colemen that started hurling insults at us, getting in the way, and being pains in the asses just because we had on anthro avatars. Although I'm glad in a way that you're this tolerant, because I got away with dropping the n-bomb and threatening to toss fried chicken and watermelon across the street to lure them away.
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Tren Neva
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02-06-2006 16:42
From: Michi Lumin
At least we have the likes of w-hat to counter such behaviors with model citizenry! Oh but it's a vice of mine, Tren, I just can't help myself but repeatedly play the "badgerbadgerbadger" song over and over again while shooting penis rockets around Luskwood. Badgers are furry, you know!
Seriously. In first grade sometimes we had "opposite day". Is that kinda what's going on here?
What are you talking about? W-hat are as bad as furries I discribed earlier in my eye. But see, you are kind enough to keep your penis rockets in luskwood.
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Jakkal Dingo
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02-06-2006 16:53
I have to agree with Tren's first sentiment as I've experienced the same general problems from Furries. I think one of the main problems that I have is that furries assume that I'm one of them, and think that they can do whatever they feel like on my land because of that.
After over 10 years of dealing with furries, I'm not too shocked by them anymore. I will admit that the -worst- things I've seen in art and stuff weren't from furries, but from anime types. But then again I don't like anime either.
We've had to put up signs and such asking people not to wear 'bits'. Signs, incidentally, don't work. I don't want to see naughty bits on a nude furry anymore than I want to see them on a nude human. I personally consider it offensive, as one of my little quirks. Furries get offended that I Find it offensive, and that's when the real drama starts.
I certainly know that not all furries are like this, and I often don't say anything to them about it because I know they'll be leaving in short order. I have, however, had to bitch at many furries who wanted to show off their cocks right infront of my face (on my land) and I've had many MANY furries bitch at me for not putting genitals on my avatars. (That just takes the cake, folks, really). I've never seen a naked human with visible bits.. (visibits?) come up to our land. (But I guarantee you, I'd give them the same treatment, without a doubt). It just seems that Furries are more likely to act a certain way or make certain assumptions about areas.
When I go to a primarily furry sim, I stop caring about it, I just don't look or I avoid the people that are wearing the bits or acting stupid or whatever, just like I would any other sim. I've seen a whole lot of stupid on SL and it's not always from furries. I don't like how they act for other reasons but as a whole they aren't bad.
Unfortunately when you've had a lot of furries acting similarly and doing similar things, one can't help but raise a little red flag in the back of your mind when you see one. That's just the way we work.
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Kathmandu Gilman
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02-06-2006 17:12
Charles Manson: Not a furry Adolph Hitler: Not a furry Joseph Stalin: Not a furry Pol Pot: Not a furry Richard Nixon: Not a furry G. Gordon Liddy: Not a furry Jeffery Dahlmer: Not a furry Timothy McVeigh: Not a furry Osama Ben-laden: Not a furry Sadam Hussein: Not a furry Rush Limbaugh: Not a furry George W. Bush: Not a furry Idi Amin: Not a furry Julius Caesar: Not a furry Caligula: Not a furry Nero: Not a furry Josef Mengele : Not a furry Adolf Eichman: Not a furry Countess Elizabeth Bathory: Not a furry Tomas Torquemada: Not a furry Pope Urban II: Not a furry Lee Harvey Oswald: Not a furry
Do you see a pattern here?
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Jillian Callahan
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02-06-2006 17:13
From: Ingrid Ingersoll Rumour has it that Jillian is a FURRY Is that why you wouldn't let me nap on the back of your sofa?
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Persephone Phoenix
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02-06-2006 17:17
No, that's a malaprop. It's asshats who make more free accounts.  From: Ordinal Malaprop My opinion is that they make more free accounts.
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Persephone Phoenix
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02-06-2006 17:26
Oooh! That sounds fun. What's outside? We going out there to smoke a dube? Or check out your van? I have a Jimmy Hendrix CD I could bring, if your van has a CD player. Does it, Ordinal? Does it, hunh? From: Ordinal Malaprop Linden or no Linden, if you are suggesting that I am any sort of hippie by being okay with furries, I will have to ask you outside.
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Nokuma Strangelove
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02-06-2006 19:11
You all are having too much fun with this topic.
Quote from friend. "I'd rather yiff one of those used sex toys they sell at Dwellget then get 2 inches near you my friend."
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Hydra Shaftoe
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02-06-2006 20:00
The whole argument is rather irrelevant. there's as many types of furry personalities as any other large group. its all a matter of which slice you get of the pie.
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Artemis Fate
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02-06-2006 20:26
From: Kathmandu Gilman Charles Manson: Not a furry Adolph Hitler: Not a furry Joseph Stalin: Not a furry Pol Pot: Not a furry Richard Nixon: Not a furry G. Gordon Liddy: Not a furry Jeffery Dahlmer: Not a furry Timothy McVeigh: Not a furry Osama Ben-laden: Not a furry Sadam Hussein: Not a furry Rush Limbaugh: Not a furry George W. Bush: Not a furry Idi Amin: Not a furry Julius Caesar: Not a furry Caligula: Not a furry Nero: Not a furry Josef Mengele : Not a furry Adolf Eichman: Not a furry Countess Elizabeth Bathory: Not a furry Tomas Torquemada: Not a furry Pope Urban II: Not a furry Lee Harvey Oswald: Not a furry
Do you see a pattern here? Kath, I hope you're making a joke cause your argument is ridiculous. I mean, you couldn't claim these people aren't furries anyways, the concept of dressing up like an animal wasn't even around then, and what there was of it a person wouldn't openly claim to like it. Adolf Hitler liked dogs, he liked wolves a lot too, "Volk" means wolf in german and he named a lot of his bases and "volkswagon" and so forth stuff after it. Maybe if he were around today and not a lunatic he would have been a wolf furry eh? On another topic, i'd say that there are two main subgroups of furries, one of those types being the one that most people don't like. There's furries and there's furverts (as they call themseves mind you), furries are the ones that like to call their home Luskwood or Taco, and generally don't care too much about sex (not anymore than any average SLer anyways). And then Furverts which are the ones in Furnation that seem to care a lot about sex (and usually weird sex at that) and are what a lot of people are describing here.
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Tikki Kerensky
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02-06-2006 20:46
But... but... I like sex! 
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Persephone Phoenix
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02-06-2006 20:50
From: Nokuma Strangelove You all are having too much fun with this topic.
Quote from friend. "I'd rather yiff one of those used sex toys they sell at Dwellget then get 2 inches near you my friend." Fun! I get to say this twice in the same forum in the same day! hahaha. (quotes self) Personal Attack = author is too lazy or too poorly equipped, intellectually, to make a compelling argument.
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Indy Raffke
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02-06-2006 21:24
What's your opinion on furries in Second Life? I hear so much negativity and such but i want to hear details.
For the original post... I couldn't care less, it's all about the individual furry/person for me. If you're nice to me; I like you. If you're a jerk to me; You're a jerk. If you don't talk to me; Either you're idle or ignoring me so I move along.
It's simple, it goes for everyone, it works for me. Granted, some of the more alien or risque avatars might get a wide eyed glance or raised eyebrow but the process is still the same.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-07-2006 02:55
First off, Kath, shame on you for throwing a political firebomb into this thread with some of the names you put on that list. From: Artemis Fate Kath, I hope you're making a joke cause your argument is ridiculous. I mean, you couldn't claim these people aren't furries anyways, the concept of dressing up like an animal wasn't even around then, and what there was of it a person wouldn't openly claim to like it. Adolf Hitler liked dogs, he liked wolves a lot too, "Volk" means wolf in german and he named a lot of his bases and "volkswagon" and so forth stuff after it. Maybe if he were around today and not a lunatic he would have been a wolf furry eh? It's "volks", not "volk". And it means "people" or "The People's". Volkswagon = The People's Wagon. Volksjaeger = The People's Hunter (The name of a peasant-built fighter in WWII). Wolf in german is just wolf, same as in english, I believe.
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Selador Cellardoor
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02-07-2006 03:12
From: Robin Linden A fundamental value of Second Life is tolerance. I've heard residents refer to this as our "hippie" philosophy. However, I think tolerance is a deeply rooted value that helps to make Second Life the innovative and interesting place that it is, because tolerance supports diversity. If we become too insular, or too homogenous, we will become boring.  Well said, Robin. There is nothing 'hippie' about tolerance. Without it we will remain psychically in the stone age.
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Selador Cellardoor
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02-07-2006 03:23
Actually from my point of view, furries actually improve second life, as do all the strange and extravagant roles that people give themselves. Surely the whole point of Second Life is in its free expression and its diversity.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-07-2006 04:19
From: Selador Cellardoor Well said, Robin. There is nothing 'hippie' about tolerance. Without it we will remain psychically in the stone age. Ya know, I don't really like that I'm "tollerated". Whenever I see that, I read it like "We don't really like you, but see how progressive we are, we put up with you freaks anyhow".
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Panther Farber
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02-07-2006 05:13
From: Artemis Fate Adolf Hitler liked dogs, he liked wolves a lot too, "Volk" means wolf in german and he named a lot of his bases and "volkswagon" and so forth stuff after it. Maybe if he were around today and not a lunatic he would have been a wolf furry eh?
Sorry I must correct you on this. First off its not "volk" its "volks." Volkswagen literally translated means "people's car." edit: Dang it. Took to long double checking to make sure I was right and what I have posted is now redundant
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Maxwolf Goodliffe
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02-07-2006 05:49
Hello my name is Max and I am furry. I also have an invisible detachable penis, kinda like that Primus song but just not as cool. Fear me.
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-07-2006 07:51
From: Cory Edo I've heard rumors that on their side of the monitor, they're people just like everyone else. On the Internet nobody knows you're really a dog.
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Michi Lumin
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02-07-2006 07:55
From: Marcus Moreau 2) I would wager that 90% of the furries I have met in-world (note the distiction above) had invisible prim genitalia attached at all times.
90%? That's laughable. Yeah, please back that one up with a simple observation survey at least. That'd mean that out of the four of us who run Luskwood, that it'd be a *statistical anomaly* if 3 of us at any one time wasn't wearing invisible genitalia. I suppose the fact that none of us do, or ever have, "flies in the face of science" or something.
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Marcus Moreau
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02-07-2006 07:59
From: Michi Lumin 90%? That's laughable. Yeah, please back that one up with a simple observation survey at least.
That'd mean that out of the four of us who run Luskwood, that it'd be a *statistical anomaly* if 3 of us at any one time wasn't wearing invisible genitalia.
I suppose the fact that none of us do, or ever have, "flies in the face of science" or something. Well, since I am talking about the furs that I have met, and not having been to Luskwood that I can recall, 90% is probably not that far off. My point is that I have met very few that did not have them (although a few good friends who are furry do not wear them). MM
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Michi Lumin
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02-07-2006 08:02
From: Tren Neva Because, like I said earlier, I have not had this problem anywhere near the same degree with other groups as I have with furries. This really all based on my personal expirence, be it bad luck or cruel fate. I'm just trying to explain why I or some others might have with furries, which was the topic question. First of all, I know for a fact that there are over 10,000 furries in SL. (Trust me, I'm in a position to have that data.) Second, we've administered Luskwood for -two and a half years-, and whenever we have a problem with excessive "lols", guns, nudity, repeated sound clips, its *NOT* our regulars (i.e., furry population) that is the problem. Really. I've been knee deep in this for several years in SL, and the type of people you describe is in no way even nearly exclusive to furries. To wit: one of my first 'altercations' here in the forums was me *complaining* about exactly that, in the welcome area, a few years back, when there were, oh, maybe 10-15 furries in all of SL. Tren, Are you absolutely sure that you haven't run across *ONE* group that's local to you, and sort of assumed that's how the rest of the population is?
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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02-07-2006 08:06
Is there any reason for this thread to still be open?
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-07-2006 08:07
From: Reitsuki Kojima Do you have "No invisible wangs!" posted as a rule? Sounds like a good idea, it'd be more amusing than "Impeach Bush".
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