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Marcus Moreau
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02-06-2006 13:11
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
And let's not forget calling people out when they make sweeping generalizations about particular groups. The nerve of those forum people.


I sense a lot of sarcasm...

EDIT: And actually, I'd like to clarify that I actually never did generalize (other than my sarcastic comment about forum posts). I merely stated my opinion based on my own experiences. Other people generalized (facetiously or not) about my own former group affiliations and I called them on it.

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Nauv DeFarge
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02-06-2006 13:14
I dislike furries. Greatly, infact!
Nokuma Strangelove
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02-06-2006 13:15
From: Artemis Fate
Furries are okay, from what i've seen they're generally creative and intelligent, albeit a lot of them have some freaky fetishes.

Plus they're pretty much like the only RPers Second Life has.

But yeah, generalizations aside, furries are like anyone else, there's stupid ones, nice ones, freaky sex ones, abstinate ones, short ones, tall ones, fat ones, skinny ones, and so on.

Never has anything been so clear to me lmao. The fetish thing i cant argue with :P
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Nokuma Strangelove
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02-06-2006 13:17
From: Nauv DeFarge
I dislike furries. Greatly, infact!

Any specific things you dislike the most? I dun think is wrong for people to hate others, its just human nature.
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Robin Linden
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02-06-2006 13:33
A fundamental value of Second Life is tolerance. I've heard residents refer to this as our "hippie" philosophy. However, I think tolerance is a deeply rooted value that helps to make Second Life the innovative and interesting place that it is, because tolerance supports diversity. If we become too insular, or too homogenous, we will become boring. :)
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02-06-2006 13:36
Linden or no Linden, if you are suggesting that I am any sort of hippie by being okay with furries, I will have to ask you outside.
Marcus Moreau
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02-06-2006 13:40
From: Robin Linden
A fundamental value of Second Life is tolerance. I've heard residents refer to this as our "hippie" philosophy. However, I think tolerance is a deeply rooted value that helps to make Second Life the innovative and interesting place that it is, because tolerance supports diversity. If we become too insular, or too homogenous, we will become boring. :)


This is a very good point. I am quite tolerant of Furries - there were quite a number of them in my former Jedi groups. In fact, several people wanted to see them ejected solely because they were Furries. But I was one of the ones who wanted them to stay. After all, they are a legitimate "race" (for lack of a better word) in SL, as is anything else. We cannot descriminate on that.

But again I think we are talking about opinions here. I was just answering the post in stating that I do not particularly care for them. This does not mean I treat them any differently than anyone else in SL.

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Aspen Normandy
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02-06-2006 13:50
Well, while tolerance may be a virtue, it's not shared by everyone. People may dislike someone for their affiliations, their actions, or for no reason at all. If someone wishes to completely disregard and refuse to associate with another based on the color of the person's shirt, they will do so.
To expect tolerance is a rather naive view of humanity.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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02-06-2006 13:57
From: Aspen Normandy
If someone wishes to completely disregard and refuse to associate with another based on the color of the person's shirt, they will do so.

Oh! you said shirt... I thought you said something else. Carry on.

From: Aspen Normandy
To expect tolerance is a rather naive view of humanity.

Yes, it really is beyond some people's graps isn't it? :rolleyes:
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02-06-2006 14:03
From: Aspen Normandy
To expect tolerance is a rather naive view of humanity.


I don't expect it, I demand it.
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Aspen Normandy
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02-06-2006 14:06
From: Gabe Lippmann
I don't expect it, I demand it.


Then you will be sorely disappointed in life.
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Tren Neva
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02-06-2006 14:11
From: Myiasia Wallaby
First off, my opinion of the furry community is no different than it is about any other community. I don't like stereotypes, although I will say I have seen quite a few that hold up to it. That much annoys me, but I don't judge everyone based on that. Each person is different, regardless of the group they happen to be a part of.

Secondly, what the heck is all this ranting and raving? You people want to go and rant about when someone asked a simple question? Well.. here's a rant, 'cause I'm sick of the immaturity! I'm a furry, too, how 'bout them apples? :p

Yes.. the furry community has its mix of weirdos, goofballs, "normals" and everything else any other community/group/culture/sub-culture has. Yes, we are numerous. Yes, we have porn, and I do tend to agree with the nastiness of childhood cartoon characters being ruined. That is to say, of course, I don't like it. But let me get this straight...

Someone opens a forum asking for opinions on what people thought of furries, and it gets turned into what sounds to me like some kind of politcal debate? Two words. Grow up. If various groups of people cannot learn to accept that other groups of people have their own tastes and beliefs, this whole thing about wanting peace sounds like a waste of breath.

But let's do a quick comparison, here. Hmm.. weirdos, goofballs, normals.. everything else. Yeah, I think I've seen the same thing in other cultures. Numerous? Hell, we're all human, we are numerous, and we're likely to be anywhere there's another human. Evading meeting someone is impossible these days, you're sure to end up with someone bumping into you, no matter how remote the area you live in is.

Porn. Disgusting porn. Oh hell yeah, I've seen ALOT of nasty human, furry, hentai and whatever else you wanna think to mention. If you're looking for it, of course you're gonna find it! This is a little thing called THE INTERNET. It is a massive library of anything you can imagine or not. There is just as much nasty, low-down, taboo and generally dirty human, hentai and whatever else out there as there is furry.

My point is.. why fear, hate or attempt to obliterate anything you don't understand or agree with, when everything else probably has the same outlook on you that you might on them? I mean, I know ALOT of people. I could care less about what they do in their spare time, as long as they're not intentionally trying to offend and harm me.

The biggest problem with almost ANY culture is accepting what other cultures like. Get over it, grow up, and try understanding and accepting things rather than trying to find stuff you hate about it. Quit looking for ways to dig into and annoy them. Just.. bah.


I guess this an example of what I was talking about earlier. If you read a single thing anyone has posted in this thread, you would know they gave their reasoning for liking/disliking said group from their own personal expirence, which was the threads question. No one was flamming anyone for liking or disliking furries, and you can't really debate personal opinion.

As for me, I was looking for ways to dig in and annoy them. As I've said, they come to my groups sim which has rules given to people as they teleport in. My PERSONAL expirence with furries {bad apple furries} has been that they will do what ever they want where ever they want, dispite constant reminders of our sims or SLs rules. So really, its not fair to say I'm just making up things to annoy them.

Right now you are showing me the exact same behaviour that I discribed in my other post. Reading only what you want to hear, then making drama out of it. The general "Attack the person if what their saying isn't 100% what you want to hear."

Not trying to start a flamewar, but maybe this will answer the topic starts question of where the negative sterotype comes from.
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02-06-2006 14:14
From: Aspen Normandy
Then you will be sorely disappointed in life.


Not at all.
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Myiasia Wallaby
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02-06-2006 14:41
From: Tren Neva
I guess this an example of what I was talking about earlier. If you read a single thing anyone has posted in this thread, you would know they gave their reasoning for liking/disliking said group from their own personal expirence, which was the threads question. No one was flamming anyone for liking or disliking furries, and you can't really debate personal opinion.

As for me, I was looking for ways to dig in and annoy them. As I've said, they come to my groups sim which has rules given to people as they teleport in. My PERSONAL expirence with furries {bad apple furries} has been that they will do what ever they want where ever they want, dispite constant reminders of our sims or SLs rules. So really, its not fair to say I'm just making up things to annoy them.

Right now you are showing me the exact same behaviour that I discribed in my other post. Reading only what you want to hear, then making drama out of it. The general "Attack the person if what their saying isn't 100% what you want to hear."

Not trying to start a flamewar, but maybe this will answer the topic starts question of where the negative sterotype comes from.


Note.. if you think I was being defencive of the furry community, I'm not entirely focusing on just the furry community. Also note that what I saw between the start of this post and the end of it was an aweful lot of off-topic crud, which I forsaw turning into what it did on the sixth page.

Frankly, I'm defending *every* sub-culture all in one shot, if you'd read.. if you wanna play that game. But I degress. People only see and hear what they want. And it's "they're", not "their". Off I go, then.

EDIT:

Just a side-note, I'm also not targetting one person in my posts. I generally try not to unless someone tosses something my way. Personally, I don't really even know why this topic was even brought up - I think it's stupid. Everyone is who they are for whatever reason they want, and it shouldn't have to be questioned.

I don't see anyone asking "Why Christian?" or "Why Goth?" or anything else for that matter. Here's one: Why human? Free accounts are opening the way for LOTS of them, I bet. Point is, why even bother? What difference is it gonna make aside from getting people all riled up about something that shouldn't make a difference, anyways? :p
Aspen Normandy
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02-06-2006 14:50
From: Myiasia Wallaby
Note.. if you think I was being defencive (defensive) of the furry community, I'm not entirely focusing on just the furry community. Also note that what I saw between the start of this post and the end of it was an aweful (awful) lot of off-topic crud, which I forsaw (foresaw) turning into what it did on the sixth page.

Frankly, I'm defending *every* sub-culture all in one shot, if you'd read.. if you wanna play that game. But I degress (digress). People only see and hear what they want. And it's "they're", not "their". Off I go, then.


Marked up with correct spelling.
Next time you decide to correct someone else's post, make sure your own is properly using the language.
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Myiasia Wallaby
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02-06-2006 14:56
From: Aspen Normandy
Marked up with correct spelling.
Next time you decide to correct someone else's post, make sure your own is properly using the language.


And I could call you something, but I won't, either. Unfortunately, I have a bit of dyslexia, so remembering exact spelling is something I won't do 100%. But I DO at least ensure that I get as close as possible, and do take care to make sure to use punctuation where required. :p

EDIT:
And my grammar doesn't suck. :p

EDIT 2:
I'm also done with this topic. G'day.
Aspen Normandy
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02-06-2006 15:04
From: Myiasia Wallaby
And I could call you something, but I won't, either. Unfortunately, I have a bit of dyslexia, so remembering exact spelling is something I won't do 100%. But I DO at least ensure that I get as close as possible, and do take care to make sure to use punctuation where required. :p

EDIT:
And my grammar doesn't suck. :p

EDIT 2:
I'm also done with this topic. G'day.


I guess in your eyes it's okay to correct someone else's post but you are offended when someone corrects yours. That's what is called a double standard, or hypocritical. Take your pick.

Goodbye.
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Michi Lumin
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02-06-2006 15:07
From: Talon Lardner
I've noticed the same thing in my adventures, and I noticed that there seems to be a definite unspoken seperation between the two...


Yeah, kinda sucks actually. I'll go to places and be completely ignored (on a good day) because I'm furry. It's actually -tough- to integrate, even if I want to.

Note though, "back in the day" on SL, there was no such separation.
Michi Lumin
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02-06-2006 15:08
From: Talon Lardner
I've noticed the same thing in my adventures, and I noticed that there seems to be a definite unspoken seperation between the two...


Yeah, kinda sucks actually. I'll go to places and be completely ignored (on a good day) because I'm furry. It's actually -tough- to integrate, even if I want to.

Note though, "back in the day" on SL, there was no such separation.

From: Maxwolf Goodliffe
Well, if furnation is not a massive enuogh empire for all of us to hang out and not cause any problems with anyone else if things really are that bad. *roll eyes*


Well, there are other places besides Furnation; Furnation is not the only place where Furries hang out nor is it the 'official' venue.

I don't think that this concept of separation and seclusion helps any.

From: Tren Neva
Such traits include rezzing penii in the middle of sims, having sex in the middle of sims, using lol as a period, need to cause drama about anything, constantly replaying very very annoying wavs, spawning laggy explosives, running around naked with bits attached, having fire/vehicle fights where they shouldn't


At least we have the likes of w-hat to counter such behaviors with model citizenry! Oh but it's a vice of mine, Tren, I just can't help myself but repeatedly play the "badgerbadgerbadger" song over and over again while shooting penis rockets around Luskwood. Badgers are furry, you know!

Seriously. In first grade sometimes we had "opposite day". Is that kinda what's going on here?
Michi Lumin
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02-06-2006 15:10
From: Artemis Fate
Furries are okay, from what i've seen they're generally creative and intelligent, albeit a lot of them have some freaky fetishes.



Thank god Furries are the only ones with freaky fetishes on SL! Otherwise we'd have to require proof of age for access or something.

Thankfully, most residents are interested in virtual bake sales and sportingly competitive dune buggy racing.
Michi Lumin
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02-06-2006 15:14
From: Tren Neva
Such traits include rezzing penii in the middle of sims, having sex in the middle of sims, using lol as a period, need to cause drama about anything, constantly replaying very very annoying wavs, spawning laggy explosives, running around naked with bits attached, having fire/vehicle fights where they shouldn't


Yes, thank goodness we have the likes of w-hat to counter such behaviors with model citizenry!
Ingrid Ingersoll
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02-06-2006 15:24
From: Michi Lumin
At least we have the likes of w-hat to counter such behaviors with model citizenry!


haha :D
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Hydra Shaftoe
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02-06-2006 15:44
I'm one of those furries that tends to get out and mingle with the non-furries on quite a regular basis, and as a whole I'm generally finding myself to be extremely well-accepted. Now granted there's a few sims that are dominated by immature and segregational mentalitites, but on the whole, these are rare. Most sims welcome furries since they do tend to be rare - especially good looking, well-behaved ones with CLASS. I suppose the biggest problem with a lot of furries to me is that many of them lack class. The transparent penis thing is a big part of this to me. Most furries are very nice people, though, and they will go out of their way to help you. There's a few, yes, that refuse to associate with non-furries, but most of them look like Brian Peppers RL and probably dont have a high opinion of humanity anyways.
Jonas Pierterson
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02-06-2006 15:55
There are a few furries that com regularly to the slingo game that I host.

In the past I have played furried in chatroom based rp.

Furries are just like veryone else here on SL, and there is no segregation to my mind, at least not beyond the themed sims. Of course there are other themed sims too, so...

There are good and bad apples in every bunch, but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Desmond Shang
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02-06-2006 16:29
From my limited experience I've never had a problem with any furry character. One scammer might have been a furry (I'm trying to recall) but that one changed avatars frequently. I'm not sure if that counts?

This may sound really bad, but the $L that furries spend at my shop are just as green as those of humans, goreans, vampires, or what-have-you.

I'm not sure why anyone would alienate them? I don't see anything overtly bad about being a rabbit, cat or such. About on par with being a robot I would suppose - fanciful but not inherently evil.

Though, from some of the posts I have been reading above... I may be getting a sense of things and think I'd best retract my earlier question.
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