[Omitted to Avoid Suspension] Suspended for 3 Days
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Unica Zetkin
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07-25-2006 21:30
http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2006/07/25/cristiano-midnight-suspended-for-3-days/From: someone In a move proving that there is no "FIC," Linden Lab has just issued a [omitted to avoid suspension] to [omitted to avoid suspension] for reporting [omitted to avoid suspension]. This action is consistent with the experience of famed Dominus creator, [omitted to avoid suspension] who indicated here on Second Life Insider that Linden Lab reacted to the [omitted to avoid suspension] by [omitted to avoid suspension] those who went public on LL's servers.
The basis of the account action was the following: "Exploit Disclosure: Residents may not take any actions or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content that contains any instructions, data, scripts, or other computer programming routines that are intended to damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data, content or personal information. Posting information about a serious exploit on the forums."
The question of going public with a [omitted to avoid suspension] that could be potentially damaging to the community is a polarizing one. As is the case of [omitted to avoid suspension], Linden Lab may not always respond quickly enough to prevent disaster without pressure from the general public. On the other hand, "Smooth Sailing" has never made a headline! The press is not in the habit of treating us to reports about the innumerable times Linden Lab has handled a problem quickly, discreetly, and with little or no inconvenience to residents.
As it happens, Linden Lab closed the grid and addressed this bug immediately (for which I cannot give enough praise.) The question of what WOULD have happened if the [omitted to avoid suspension] was only reported to the Lindens quietly may be the subject of conjecture for a time to come. But after much discussion it would seem most residents offer this advice: "Give Linden Lab a chance to fix things before going public." About how much time to give, they mostly disagree.
This blogger offers the following advice: "If you go public, don't go public on a Linden Lab server."
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Luthien Unsung
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07-25-2006 21:47
lol! Really! You should write for a comedy company!  |
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Unica Zetkin
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07-25-2006 21:51
From: Luthien Unsung lol! Really! You should write for a comedy company! Thank you. I have a knack for writing about serious subjects with a twist of humor.  |
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Doubledown Tandino
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07-25-2006 22:53
good read, thank you for the report O)
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 23:29
er... thanks, U.Z. ... with a start date in July 2006 ... o.0 oh. hehe. And when you hit reply, the name of the dastardly offender appears in the "type here" box. Um, that's not a bug I just reported, is it?
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Hank Ramos
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07-26-2006 03:15
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Mirra Hathor
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07-26-2006 04:44
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Shoot the messenger next time, LL. What a great way to encourage residents to bring so serious a matter to your immediate attention.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-26-2006 05:52
That person does have a valid point. If the exploit was not brought to the boards the outcome would have been worse. Hmm.. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't..  |
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Phoenix Psaltery
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07-26-2006 06:09
Censorship is bad. He did not reveal the how-tos of the bug. He should not have been suspended.
P2
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Cindy Claveau
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07-26-2006 06:14
From: Phoenix Psaltery Censorship is bad. He did not reveal the how-tos of the bug. He should not have been suspended.
I guess this means I won't be reporting any more bugs in the AR tool. |
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Jennyfur Peregrine
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07-26-2006 06:14
From: Phoenix Psaltery Censorship is bad. He did not reveal the how-tos of the bug. He should not have been suspended.
P2 One of the things I actually find to be the most useful about the forums is when residents report issues such as certain bugs and exploits. Otherwise I would not know about them. This was the case during the great Creator Nobody/Permissions bug of 2004. The bug went unnoticed for weeks in some cases until someone brought it up on the forums and then we realized how much of our inventory it affected.
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Schwanson Schlegel
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07-26-2006 07:15
That suspension is a total load of crap. It's almost humorous that LL would suspend an upstanding citizen of the community for disclosing the fact that a bug exists w/o disclosing the details. Almost.
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Tralos Westerburg
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07-26-2006 07:41
From: Unica Zetkin In a move proving that there is no "FIC," Linden Lab has just issued a [omitted to avoid suspension] to [omitted to avoid suspension] for reporting [omitted to avoid suspension]. *snip* /me scratches his head. But... what if this is really just a dastardly plan set in motion by the FIC and LL to make us think the FIC is a figment of our imagination?! Enquiring mind want to know...  |
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Unica Zetkin
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07-26-2006 08:13
From: Phoenix Psaltery He did not reveal the how-tos of the bug. He should not have been suspended. Agreed. There was no information revealed and the intent was not malicious. As long as we're suspending those acting without malicious intent, how about we suspend the LL employees who let this bug slip into the code too. |
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Suburban Culdesac
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07-26-2006 08:14
This is a scandal. The resident named in the blog post is a long-standing member who's contributed so much to SL, including a feature taken on by LL and added to the client - and this is how they repay him for reporting a problem?
If I was him, I'd suspend my website for the three days and see how they like that.
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Unica Zetkin
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07-26-2006 08:19
From: Suburban Culdesac If I was him, I'd suspend my website for the three days and see how they like that. They buried the Gaming Open Market (GOM) when they included its functionality into the client without batting an eye. I doubt the loss of his website would phase them. Why is LL persecuting productive, long-standing members of SL? |
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Rose Karuna
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07-26-2006 08:21
From: Schwanson Schlegel That suspension is a total load of crap. It's almost humorous that LL would suspend an upstanding citizen of the community for disclosing the fact that a bug exists w/o disclosing the details. Almost. Yup - I agree. What the heck is going on lately?
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katykiwi Moonflower
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07-26-2006 08:24
I can't imagine why there is not a forum devoted specifically for openly reporting bugs such as the one that became the subject of these unfair sanctions.
Note: Heavy handed rule by censorship will not solve problems!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-26-2006 08:27
From: Rose Karuna Yup - I agree. What the heck is going on lately? I wonder if this isn't an unintended consequence of the resmod program. Because long-time members tend to be more vocal and because resmods' primary concern is the policing of the forums, their moderation is acting contrary to the long-term financial interests of LL by alienating the old timers. ~Ulrika~
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-26-2006 08:28
From: katykiwi Moonflower Note: Heavy handed rule by censorship will not solve problems! Moderation has become excessive and oppressive, creating more hostility and resentment than lax moderation ever did. ~Ulrika~
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Starax Statosky
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07-26-2006 08:30
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Moderation has become excessive and oppressive, creating more hostility and resentment than lax moderation ever did.
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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07-26-2006 08:32
From: Ulrika Zugzwang I wonder if this isn't an unintended consequence of the resmod program. Dunno about that, sounds kinda grabbing-at-straws to me.
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Beryl Greenacre
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07-26-2006 08:33
From: Phoenix Psaltery Censorship is bad. He did not reveal the how-tos of the bug. He should not have been suspended.
P2 I agree. This development is most distressing, LL. 
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Jopsy Pendragon
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07-26-2006 08:38
Even by vaguely mentioning where the exploit exists results in people performing their own sometimes destructive and intrustive testing to see if they can discover and confirm the same bug. Not to mention those whose motives are more grieferish in nature. By going public before giving LL a chance to respond the bug announcer may be forcing them to take the grid down. While well intentioned, it is quite similar in effect to an attack on the grid. In most cases it's better to live with a little known exploit for a day or two and announce it after it's been resolved. Of course, if it ends up ignored, you could report it again with a deadline after which you promise someone will announce the bug publicly... but that's dirty pool. |
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-26-2006 08:39
From: Psyra Extraordinaire Dunno about that, sounds kinda grabbing-at-straws to me. Given that he was suspended from the forums, his post was without a doubt forwarded from a resmod to a Linden that enacted the suspension, all of us agree that he revealed no methodology and his intent was not malicious, what else but the moderation system exists as the cause of this snafu? ~Ulrika~
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